Interiors and NPC in them glitching all over

[Adam2010]

Hi, I will try and keep this short but informative.

I installed Fallout 4, modded it up carefully checking for crashes (outside only). Running fine until I got to Diamond City. Went into Valentine's office and the NPCs were popping into walls and into the floor above. It looked like when you try to put an item inside another item and the game doesn't like it.

 

I really need help with this, It's making my game unplayable, I can't talk to NPCs inside buildings because they ping around everywhere and the dialog boxes only work when I guess where they might be. Combat inside buildings is also broken, NPC will take cover on things and they will look like sonic leaning in and out of cover.

 

I've tried:

• Disabling all interior mods as well as texture mods and ENBs (e.g. Merciless ENB, Dynamic Interior Fog Removal, Enhanced Lights and FX, Vivid Fallout)
• Turning Shadows from Medium to Low
• Launching without F4SE
• Verifying Integrity of Game Cache (Steam)
• Exiting and entering buildings after all these changes

https://youtu.be/jmQkY6nkN74

 

LOAD ORDER (I use LOOT after I install and uninstall ANY single mod):

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 Arbitration - Resources.esm
9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm
10 a ConcealedArmor.esm
11 b Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp
12 c UniquePipboy.esp
13 d SatelliteWorldMap.esp
14 e CommonwealthConifersREDUX.esp
15 f TrueGrass.esp
16 10 dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
17 11 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp
18 12 Armorsmith Extended.esp
19 13 Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
20 14 ConcealedArmor.esp
21 15 GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp
22 16 Gloves of the Commonwealth - ASE.esp
23 17 BasementLiving.esp
24 18 Campsite.esp
25 19 Campsite-AWKCR.esp
26 1a Campsite-Full-Sleep.esp
27 1b Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
28 1c The Rebel.esp
29 1d ShellRain.esp
30 1e ModularKalash.esp
31 1f Colt1911.esp
32 20 SilentProtagonist.esp
33 21 WindowBoards.esp
34 22 No Scope Fade In.esp
35 23 DD_Perk_Reset_WIZURD_HAIRRYY.esp
36 24 LoveToCraftLegendary_Base_NukaWorld.esp
37 25 Weapon Rebalance.esp
38 26 LoveToCraftLegendary_Base.esp
39 27 LoveToCraftLegendary_Base_Automatron.esp
40 28 LoveToCraftLegendary_Base_FarHarbor.esp
41 29 Crafting Workbench.esp
42 2a Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
43 2b Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp
44 2c Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
45 2d Arbitration - Better Combat AI.esp
46 2e Arbitration - Reduced Grenade Spam.esp
47 2f Arbitration - Farther Grenade Detection.esp
48 30 Arbitration - Stealth Overhaul.esp
49 31 Arbitration - Fall Damage Overhaul.esp
50 32 Arbitration - Molotov.esp
51 33 Arbitration - Automatron AI.esp
52 34 Perk Rebalance Normal.esp
53 35 Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp
54 36 3xEnemyDamage.esp
55 37 3xPlayerDamage.esp
56 38 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp
57 39 Craft_Ammo_HandmadeRoundDolby1021.esp
58 3a StartMeUp.esp

 

Edited September 11, 2017 by Adam2010

[Adam2010]

Update:

I un-installed the game. Delete all files left behind. Re-installed the game through Steam.
I turn EVERYTHING down to the minimum (or off when available) but the problem still remains.
I am using NO MODS and started a NEW GAME after re-installing the game to be 100% sure it was a fair test.
I validated the game cache integrity and it found 0 problems.

Video: https://youtu.be/KIJlSQEJnQk
Settings picture: https://imgur.com/3dXVOMC
DxDiag attached: https://pastebin.com/jcBaqyzV

Edited September 9, 2017 by Adam2010

[maverikch]

Did you also took care of the fallout4.ini and fallout4custom.ini under documents > my games > Fallout 4?

[Adam2010]

Did you also took care of the fallout4.ini and fallout4custom.ini under documents > my games > Fallout 4?

Yes, I deleted them before re-installing the game on Steam.

[Adam2010]

Okay, here's what I've tested now.

1. I launched Fallout 4 one more time quickly to check it was still glitched, it was.

2. I then played Metro 2033, Playerunknown's Battlegrounds, World of Warcraft and Heroes and Generals. All for around 15 minutes or more. NONE of the games showed ANY signs of anything going wrong.

3. I then re-installed my Nvidia driver using GeForce Experience (Driver version: 385.41).

4. Launched Fallout 4, it was still having problems.

5. Downloaded and installed the previous driver version (Driver version: 385.28).

6. Restarted my computer.

7. Launched Fallout 4 and started a New Game, it was still having problems. (Video included of the New Game)

I'm really lost at this point...

I don't think it's a hardware problem, from the examples of the NPCs teleporting it really looks like an in-game engine problem.

YouTube video of the New Game (Shows the problem really well):

https://youtu.be/Sh8qWeyN0wk

[Adam2010]

Solved finaly after lots of troubleshooting. I will try and briefly list the steps for future reference:
- Disabling all mods
- Turning game settting down (off if possible)
- Launching without F4SE
- Verifying Integrity of Game Cache (Steam)
- Creating New Game
- Uninstalling the game, deleting ALL files left behind
- Re-installing the game
- Updating video driver (if possible)
- Downgrading video driver
- Installing Windows Updates
- Checking other games run fine (To check your GPU is not dying)
- Checking Direct X was updated
- Performing a SFC and DISM scan

MY GAME WAS FIXED AFTER THE FOLLOWING STEPS
- Un-installing Fallout 4 *again*
- CCleaner Registry Cleaner
- Deleting all de-activated mods in Nexus Mod Manager (I disabled them all before but just to be 100% sure)
- Selecting "High Performance" in the Control Panel, Power Options
- Changing application profile settings in Nvidia Control Panel
(Nvidia Control Panel, 3D Settings, Manage 3D Settings, Program Settings, Select "Fallout 4 (fallout4.exe.)", set "Power management mode" to "Prefer maximum performance", set "Texture filtering - Quality" to "High Quality", Apply
- Installing a new Windows Update
- Re-installing Fallout 4

[maverikch]

Glad you found a way to solve it.

Well i believe either Registry or NVIDIA Settings where the trick.

[Adam2010]

Glad you found a way to solve it.

Well i believe either Registry or NVIDIA Settings where the trick.

Yep, I also agree it was probably the Nvidia settings. Hopefully this helps others in future.