Mod Problem Identification

[McBeanie]

So, I have 256 mods installed, 14 of which are in a bashed patch so technically only 242 are checked. Whenever I start a new game it just hangs on the logo looping the song over and over again, and if I try to load a save it goes to the usual smoky loading screen with some random thing from the game and randomly crashes without an error. If any wants to take a look, here is my load order:

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Extended Colors.esm

Imp's More Complex Needs.esm

JSwords.esm

SkyMoMod.esm

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm

adoption.esp

alek's weapon skills overhaul.esp

arcaneassassin.esp

artifactoverhaul.esp

auriel_bow.esp

betterimprovised.esp

betterquestobjectives.esp

betterwerewolf.esp

birds.esp

blackmarsh.esp

bome-divorce.esp

burntcorpse.esp

crimes!.esp

crowdedcities.esp

cupid_arrowbegone.esp

daedriccorset.esp

decoder.esp

detailed cities.esp

detailed outskirts.esp

divine_intervention.esp

dl33-ebonyinvisiblity.esp

dnihome.esp

dragonagefollowers.esp

dragonboneweaponspack02.esp

dual wield parrying_randomattacks.esp

dwarvesofmoria.esp

dwemerautoblade.esp

elvenwood.esp

enchantmentcleanser.esp

enhancedlightingforrealisticlighting.esp

expertandmasterhoods.esp

falmerrace.esp

fenrir.esp

fighting stances(optional) enemiespack.esp

fighting stances.esp

flamingredhair.esp

flexibleperktrees.esp

followerwander2.esp

forbidden.esp

general npc fixes.esp

geralt_ravenarmor_v02b.esp

getdrunk.esp

greatwyrm.esp

handyman.esp

hellionarrows_v1.0.esp

hg.esp

ignitetheworld.esp

improved final battle.esp

iorvethlightarmor_v_1_3.esp

itsatrap!.esp

joomasslightning.esp

khajiit-mara.esp

krisan's eyes.esp

live another life.esp

lost dwemer forge.esp

lt_better_horses.esp

lt_camping.esp

lt_dragonplate_should_be_better_than_daedric.esp

mannequins.esp

markrecall.esp

matys knights of the nine armor 2.1.esp

minesofmoria.esp

morevillageanimals.esp

moria.esp

onfire.esp

psijic mage.esp

reneerscrimeoverhaul.esp

repjarlssc.esp

reverseddaggers2.1.esp

rings_of_effects.esp

sanguinesroseoldeffect.esp

sarumanstaffwepmod.esp

seriousstoneclasses.esp

shadowelveseng.esp

shadowmourne.esp

shenkthieveryoverhaul.esp

skeletonkey.esp

skyrim reverse vampirism.esp

skyrim trade guild.esp

so_ikarop.esp

specializedfollowers.esp

spyduckwands.esp

staffofsweetrolls.esp

stfu_draugr.esp

tactlesstoxins.esp

tam.esp

tamriel compendium.esp

throwing knives.esp

twili's unarmed perk.esp

twili's unarmored perk.esp

twilight forest.esp

twohanded dawnbreaker.esp

unarmed combat -separate tree.esp

valuablehidesandskins.esp

viciousdawnbreaker.esp

vittra.esp

wisplicker.esp

wolfelfrace.esp

wvexpansion.esp

yogweapons.esp

zagyg.esp

Alduin's son.esp

SpellFix.esp

Balanced_Alteraton.esp

Balanced_Conjuration.esp

Balanced_Destruction.esp

Balanced_Illusion.esp

Balanced_Restoration.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp

Arhimagesword.esp

Cowardly essential Frost - install before quest.esp

Cowardly Frost - install before quest.esp

Cowardly essential horses.esp

Cowardly horses.esp

CraftBoundWeaponsAndArrows.esp

CraftableTemplar.esp

TH3WICK3D1-ArmoroftheFallen.esp

TH3WICK3D1-GreyWardenArmor.esp

TH3WICK3D1-HawkeMageArmor.esp

Crafting300.esp

daedric_phelm.esp

DaggerCraft.esp

DarkRaces.esp

DCR_Blade_Set.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

Sickly Diseases.esp

Deadly Traps.esp

Divine Aegis.esp

Divine Aegis Sword.esp

DragonBoneWeaponsPack01_v01.00.esp

DPArmor.esp

Dwemer Certified.esp

Dynasty Armor.esp

EnchantmentOverhaul.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Extended Colors - Selection.esp

Ezio's Armor.esp

FasterArrows75.esp

FasterArrows50.esp

FasterArrows100.esp

FasterArrows.esp

FS_ExorcizamusTe.esp

FS_EveningStar.esp

FS_SwordOfTheSeeker.esp

Follower Tweaks - E - LCR.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Frostmourne.esp

Northborn Fur Hoods.esp

RabbitsPlus.esp

Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp

SeraphimStandAlone.esp

armor_eisen.esp

IMCN - Overrides.esp

JewelCraft.esp

HentaiKarliahArmor.esp

Killmove +.esp

lordamor.esp

LFArmors.esp

LovelyHairstyles.esp

isilNarsil.esp

Masters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp

MatchingSetFixes.esp

MidasSkyrim.esp

Moar Kontent.esp

MoreGrass.esp

StopBumpingIntoMe.esp

smakit_house_markers_plus.esp

MTOH.esp

Mystic.esp

SaderHorses.esp

MysticGloves.esp

Natural Skyrim Rain.esp

Necromimesis.esp

Neiheleim.esp

Night_Dweller_Armor.esp

BlackSacramentArmor.esp

No Helmets Required.esp

Non-playable Armor.esp

Omegared99-Compilation.esp

Perfect Legionnaire 3.0.esp

Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp

posesivecorpses.esp

R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp

R18Pn - Leere Armor.esp

Realistic Lighting.esp

Realistic Running Speed.esp

RealisticWaterTextures.esp

ScoutArmor.esp

Shadow Striping Fix.esp

Shrine of Azura LOD Fix.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp

SkyMoMod_lists.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

sting.esp

HentaisTemplePlateArmor.esp

ARTOFMAGIC.esp

TH3WICK3D1-NorthernKingdomsHeavyPlate.esp

TH3WICK3D1-GeraltSeltkirkArmor.esp

TH3WICK3D1-LethoArmor.esp

Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp

Killable Children.esp

tom349fistweapons.esp

TrissArmorRetextured.esp

Tyrael Armor.esp

ringwraith.esp

uruk.esp

urukhelmet.esp

urukshield.esp

VariedGuards.esp

warmagearmor.esp

Warmer Magic Lights v2.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp

WeaponsOf3E.esp

witchplate.esp

WeightedLockpicks-0_1u.esp

aelafacelift.esp

Balanced_Magic_Adept.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Bloodx10.esp

Cowardly essential Frost.esp

Cowardly essential Shadowmere.esp

Cowardly Frost.esp

Cowardly Shadowmere.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp

Death Cam (60 Seconds).esp

DragonboneWeightRedux(x2).esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

Hvergelmir's Armor Retexture - HAR.esp

KeeningFix100.esp

killable_children_qp_aventus.esp

killable_children_qp_nelkir.esp

LeatherWeightFix(0.5).esp

masser Size x0.5.esp

mjollfacelift-blondehair.esp

More Visible Soul Trap Effect.esp

MorokeiFix.esp

moveit.esp

repjarlsimp.esp

sapphiremarriage.esp

secunda Size x0.5.esp

TalosShrineFix.esp

Auto Unequip Arrows.esp

TH3WICK3D1-BlueStripesEliteArmor.esp

Shields_of_the_northern_kingdoms.esp

W2_HelmetPack.esp

augmentedspells.esp

WiS IV - Blood Coins Slow.esp

WiS IV - Fix FrostspiderGiant.esp

WiS IV - Heroes & Villains Insane.esp

WiS IV - leveld World X1.esp

WiS IV - Normal mode.esp

WiS IV - Water Wars.esp

 

 

and these cannot be sorted by BOSS:

 

 

psijic mage.esp

dl33-ebonyinvisiblity.esp

skyrim reverse vampirism.esp

sarumanstaffwepmod.esp

shadowelveseng.esp

staffofsweetrolls.esp

seriousstoneclasses.esp

auriel_bow.esp

falmerrace.esp

sanguinesroseoldeffect.esp

alek's weapon skills overhaul.esp

zagyg.esp

bome-divorce.esp

skyrim trade guild.esp

forbidden.esp

handyman.esp

vittra.esp

wolfelfrace.esp

dwarvesofmoria.esp

minesofmoria.esp

lost dwemer forge.esp

repjarlssc.esp

sapphiremarriage.esp

flamingredhair.esp

skeletonkey.esp

unarmed combat -separate tree.esp

greatwyrm.esp

fenrir.esp

tactlesstoxins.esp

augmentedspells.esp

flexibleperktrees.esp

betterimprovised.esp

throwing knives.esp

so_ikarop.esp

twili's unarmored perk.esp

twili's unarmed perk.esp

stfu_draugr.esp

shadowmourne.esp

lt_dragonplate_should_be_better_than_daedric.esp

hellionarrows_v1.0.esp

dwemerautoblade.esp

blackmarsh.esp

moria.esp

decoder.esp

joomasslightning.esp

twohanded dawnbreaker.esp

tam.esp

elvenwood.esp

wisplicker.esp

improved final battle.esp

detailed outskirts.esp

artifactoverhaul.esp

dnihome.esp

khajiit-mara.esp

spyduckwands.esp

rings_of_effects.esp

krisan's eyes.esp

fighting stances.esp

fighting stances(optional) enemiespack.esp

divine_intervention.esp

dragonagefollowers.esp

Alduin's son.esp

Arhimagesword.esp

DarkRaces.esp

EnchantmentOverhaul.esp

Ezio's Armor.esp

FS_ExorcizamusTe.esp

Shields_of_the_northern_kingdoms.esp

W2_HelmetPack.esp

MysticGloves.esp

Necromimesis.esp

Neiheleim.esp

Night_Dweller_Armor.esp

sting.esp

tom349fistweapons.esp

ringwraith.esp

urukhelmet.esp

urukshield.esp

WiS IV - leveld World X1.esp

uruk.esp

matys knights of the nine armor 2.1.esp

repjarlsimp.esp

 

 

Finally, in Wrye Bash I have several files with the message: "WARNING: Has same load order as another mod." Is this the problem? If so, how can I fix it

Edited March 6, 2012 by McBeanie

[fms1]

If your patched to 1.4.27 the way load order is determined has since changed, and until BOSS, Wrye Bash, and NMM are updated you will have to change load order "manually" using the Skyrim Data launcher or roll back to 1.4.21. Here's a link to explain (it's a lot of reading).

 

Skyrim Load Order changes

[McBeanie]

So I'll probably just have to wait till BOSS, NMM, or similar gets updated?

[fms1]

So I'll probably just have to wait till BOSS, NMM, or similar gets updated?

 

Or roll back to 1.4.21 and utilities work, there was supposed to be a DL for 1.4.21 on Steam forums somewhere, but with the latest beta coming out they may have pulled it.

[McBeanie]

Ok, thanks!

[xEVILMICKx]

So I'll probably just have to wait till BOSS, NMM, or similar gets updated?

and how do I revert back to 1.4.21? I can't find the patch anywhere and frankly, I have lost everything in this game. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in a game. it actually removed items from my inventory, but still made them craftable. so I was able to create them or spawn them through the console again, even though I had already had them in my inventory, and then some items just don't work all together. I am still able to see the locations through the console as well, like the BB Luxury Suite mod. I can type help "Luxury Suite" 4 and it gives me the location codes for it, but it, and all of the items I had stored there, are gone. So is Overlook Tower. those two were where I stored everything. However, Boulders loaded, no problem.