This is strange

[eltucu]

First i was all like:

Admit mistake, if you are manly enough.

 

 

If you are a girl, i should forgive cowardice ? NO!

You started something, finish it.

And then i was like:

Also, why should I finish someone elses work ?

Give me one good reason why I should finish it ?

And no, my own usage is not a reason for me to finish someone's work.

:facepalm: I think you're subconsciously trolling us.

[MacKom]

@Havok10K - Ah, I see, you`re not making mods...and yet, you feel quite competent to complain about the "sub-par" standard of all the work others are making. And all the hours they/we spend on making them so that others can enjoy them. You included.

Lovely.

Just lovely.

 

Also - why don`t you learn how to mod? That is just...well, pure laziness! :rolleyes:

 

 

That is one class A trolling act you have going on here, kind sir.

[modder3434]

I could do it all as standalone, sure, but there are two things that stop me from it:

-I'm not good with modding or anything, I don't know how this thing works, and Creation kit sure looks like it was designed for Fallout 3

-Thus said, another application Bethesda is proud of releasing bugged and laggy.

 

Also, why should I finish someone elses work ?

Give me one good reason why I should finish it ?

And no, my own usage is not a reason for me to finish someone's work.

 

this "im entitled to top quality mods" attitude when you don't even mod ( and don't seem to wish to learn either) makes me sick. no modder on this site is required to share any of their stuff, they do so because they enjoy it and appreciate feedback and love to mod games in general. your arguments carry no weight at all. if your upset about some unfinished mod in your eyes or ways to improve it, learn how to mod and fix the problem yourself. its called self-reliance

[Havoc10K]

I see the key word has been used at last.

 

Lets go back to the first question, cuz simply put, that's what started it:

Why modders continue making replacers instead of standalone mods ?

 

We came to a conclusion, to which a large amount of people agree with, that modders are doing a lot of work, and saving as a stand alone mod is too much for them.

Personally I don't know how this works, I explained this a few times in other places on this forum, i'm not a modder.

I do think this is laziness from modders point, If I knew how to use that CS properly I would, I have no problems with Warcraft 3 editor and Starcraft /2 editors.

Those are properly made tools that allow for a large editing options, CS looks like it was made for Fallout 3/LV so I don't know if this is a proper tool to be used for Skyrim. I'm still trying to figure out how this thing works and why it gives me all those constant errors, seriously.

 

We appreciate all the work modders make, but we don't want every armor/weapon wearing bandit in the world to have an awesome armor/weapon. Why you continue with replacers when you complained about lack of CS so you did those replacers, we understood this but now you continue doing replacers ? Why ?

We want to make those weapons and armors and trinkets, we don't want bandits to wear them.

 

If you think this is trolling, then go ahead and report it but I asked a question, and I still didn't get a solid answer.

Sure, I can understand replacers for guards armors, or clothing update for textures, but other than that, right now, there is no excuse to continue with replacers.

[modder3434]

I see the key word has been used at last.

 

Lets go back to the first question, cuz simply put, that's what started it:

Why modders continue making replacers instead of standalone mods ?

 

We came to a conclusion, to which a large amount of people agree with, that modders are doing a lot of work, and saving as a stand alone mod is too much for them.

Personally I don't know how this works, I explained this a few times in other places on this forum, i'm not a modder.

I do think this is laziness from modders point, If I knew how to use that CS properly I would, I have no problems with Warcraft 3 editor and Starcraft /2 editors.

Those are properly made tools that allow for a large editing options, CS looks like it was made for Fallout 3/LV so I don't know if this is a proper tool to be used for Skyrim. I'm still trying to figure out how this thing works and why it gives me all those constant errors, seriously.

 

We appreciate all the work modders make, but we don't want every armor/weapon wearing bandit in the world to have an awesome armor/weapon. Why you continue with replacers when you complained about lack of CS so you did those replacers, we understood this but now you continue doing replacers ? Why ?

We want to make those weapons and armors and trinkets, we don't want bandits to wear them.

 

If you think this is trolling, then go ahead and report it but I asked a question, and I still didn't get a solid answer.

Sure, I can understand replacers for guards armors, or clothing update for textures, but other than that, right now, there is no excuse to continue with replacers.

 

there is not really a solid answer. Some modders only know how to make re placers, while quite a few modders make things people requests, i personally have gotten a couple request to make a new stormclak armor etc. some might geniunly be lazy ( although most don't seems so). Another thought could be that since the Creation kit is slightly buggy it might be more reliable to make a replacer then have to do quite a few tiny tweaks that may or may not work.

 

on a side note their are tutorials on nexus and the web if you want to learn how to use skyrim's mod tools.

[Havoc10K]

I'm reading them atm since I'm at work and got nothing to do right now, there's a meeting in a few hours and until then I won't have anything to do :P

 

But still, it'll take a while to learn, I used to be good with Morrowind tools, but this is different.

Well, i used to be good with many things, even drawing, but things happen and i'm not as skillful anymore.

[noctara]

Well, for me the solution is simple. While I do appreciate all modders hard work (regardless of whether i use the mod or not), I won´t download or endorse any mod which will detoriate my gaming experience (If all Bandits are wearing fancy armor it will though). I have hope that modders will learn eventually that making an armor standalone is part of making a quality mod (which in return will be appreciated more than just a replacer). Give them some time :thumbsup:

[Sunnie]

The bottom line is this: If you don't like a mod, what it does, or what it stands for, don't download it or stop using it. It's that simple. And don't go make a rant post flaming an entire community.

 

And I would consider this a troll/flame bait post, It has no purpose other than to *censored* and complain, and demand that a community bend to their (the OPs) will.

You (OP) don't mod, you don't have any experience with the tools we are given, and yet you have made quite a few "judgements" about the tools and the people who can and can not understand their use.

 

Sounds like a troll post to me, and not a great way to get involved in this community. Why don't you go post this over on the Bethedsa forum? See how long it takes to get locked and your account warned.

[Korodic]

Their work is as finished as they release it. If u don't like it and don't want to do anything about it, then move along. You have no entitlements and there are no guarentees. I may release my work folowing good practices but not everyone will.