FWE seemingly incompatible with own plugin.

[johnafrica]

Hey guys.

 

Just recently picked up this little gem again, after countless hours in Vegas. I decided to mod it heavily, as I always do, but I seem to get random - and highly frequent - crashes. I've tried the BOSS auto sorter, but it just seems to increase the frequency of crashes, now usually within ~1 minute, give or take. There's no specific 'trigger' to these crashes, they appear quite randomly, even when turning the camera or picking up a useless item from the floor.

So, I ran the diagnostics. I am not sure if this is what causes it, but I've only got these two conflicts:

 

 

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats}}

Incompatible with: FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

 

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats}}

Incompatible with: FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp

 

 

There is a few bash tag suggestions, but these shouldn't be rendering the game unplayable.. or would they?

Any help or input would be amazingly appreciated.

Edited March 6, 2012 by John_Africa

[Gribbleshnibit8]

Not sure if that will cause crashes as often as you say, but those two plugins should never be used together. They're the same thing, except that FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp is for use with Broken Steel (hence the tag in parentheses), and the other is for use if you don't have Broken Steel.

[johnafrica]

Not sure if that will cause crashes as often as you say, but those two plugins should never be used together. They're the same thing, except that FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp is for use with Broken Steel (hence the tag in parentheses), and the other is for use if you don't have Broken Steel.

 

Oh. Really? I thought it just was for the vanilla content. I'll try disabling it and tell you how it went. Thanks in advance!

 

 

 

EDIT: No change, unfortunately. Game still freezes within a minute.

 

EDIT: Additional note: Even if this problem was present before, it escalated after I picked up my first companion - and especially after I asked him to wait for me. I went into an abandoned house in Minefield, and that's where it went unplayable. I do not use any other mods that affects companions at all.

Edited March 6, 2012 by John_Africa

[johnafrica]

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

Project Beauty.esm

CrossModData.esm

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

AgeBasedBodys.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp

Centered 3P Cam.esp

Zumbs' Wearable Cigarettes, Cheroots and Cigars.esp

RaiderPittArmor.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp

RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp

 

Total active plugins: 39

Total plugins: 39

 

 

 

These are the ones I use. As you can see, they're tidy enough, sorted as specified in the FWE description, and I can't really see what would conflict here. Especially not as it started after I got Dogmeat and asked him to stay put.

[AlfredTetzlaff]

Hi,

no merged patch?? With FOIP a merged patch is mandatory. Check out this FAQ on how to create one ;)

[johnafrica]

Thanks a lot, friend. I shall make one immediately!

 

(Oh, update, I seem to otherwise have fixed the game.. simply by disabling Ironsights, playing for five minutes, and re-enabling them, without me really understanding why. I will still make that patch though.)

[BlackRampage]

(Oh, update, I seem to otherwise have fixed the game.. simply by disabling Ironsights, playing for five minutes, and re-enabling them, without me really understanding why. I will still make that patch though.)

That, of course, is because you simply don't have the aforementioned FOIP patch for FWE + Ironsights.

 

Download it here: FOIP. Once you've done that you can (and should) create a merged patch.

[johnafrica]

Done so. Haven't got the time to test it now, but if it continues to run as smoothly as it did the last time, I think this problem is solved.

Thanks to all of you.. the next time you pop a jet or a buffout, pretend that it's on me.

[johnafrica]

I just had a looksie, there's no Ironsight/FWE compability patch on the FOIP page. I did get one directly from the Ironsights optionals, though, but it didn't do the trick. Also using a merged patch, but I'm getting the same error as usual. The game just freezes up. The computer seems surprisingly responsive, though - as soon as I press CTRL-ALT-DEL, the menu that allows me to access the task manager pops up. (Fingers crossed for this being a known issue which is easily solved).

 

EDIT: Completely removing the Ironsights (and restoring the original models), the bridge patch and remaking the merged patch now makes the game crash nearly as soon as it has been loaded. Starting to wonder if I can rule out incompability between FWE and Ironsights as being the major issue here.

Edited March 8, 2012 by John_Africa

[BlackRampage]

I just had a looksie, there's no Ironsight/FWE compability patch on the FOIP page. I did get one directly from the Ironsights optionals, though, but it didn't do the trick.

Ugh. My bad. I had that weaponmodkits mod in mind when I typed that.

 

Hmm you are launching the game through FOSE, yes?