Hearthfire: Heljarchen Hall not showing up

[Merscil]

Hi, as the topic says I'm having a problem with the hearthfire house at Heljarchen Hall in the Pale. It doesn't show up. Now, apparently this is a common bug and I have searched for this problem in quite a few topics but haven't found a solution yet that works for my modlist.

The last solution I tried was to install Dracos Hearthfire Homes Exterior Upgrades Windstad Lakeview Heljarchen which apparently fixed the issue for a lot of people but not for me. Interestingly, I apparently have a mod which places a well in the place (the Dracos mod puts a lantern in the exact same place). From this well I can fill my empty bottles with spring water, so I'm not sure if Frostfall is to blame or not. Just fyi, I do use LOOT to sort out my load order, which I will now post.

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

WinterholdDestruction.esm

Campfire.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

RSkyrimChildren.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

SkyUI.esp

WetandCold.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

AOS.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Barbarian Hair.esp

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

Laundry.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

PumpingIron.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp

AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp

AOS2_DSI Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp

AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

AOS2_GDO Patch.esp

MIDFollowMeCloser.esp

KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

ELFX_2_0_BFU_Patch.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

Frostfall.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

JKs Markarth.esp

CompanionValfar.esp

skycity3.esp

Signs_of_Skyrim.esp

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

RND_AnimalLoot.esp

Bastards.esp

HoldBorderBanners.esp

SimplyKnock.esp

Extended UI.esp

FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

iHUD.esp

Predator Vision.esp

FNIS.esp

Headtracking.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

SaviorsHide.esp

House Map Markers Legendary.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

EldersOfSkyrim.esp

RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp

LeftHandRings.esp

LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp

ImmersiveSpells.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

AOS2_EBT Patch.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp

VikingArmorSet.esp

Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp

Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp

BloodmoonRising.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT_RND.esp

12FemaleBrows.esp

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

wizardhat.esp

LessIntrusiveHUD.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-1.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-2.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-4.esp

360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp

BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp

DaedricDawnbreakerRNoStagger110.esp

UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

ORM Convenient Alsvid.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

RSChildren - Complete.esp

WondersofWeather.esp

VampireRoyalArmorUn-enhanced.esp

GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

JulesDisenchantGodAmulets.esp

 

Any help would be appreciated.

Edited September 14, 2017 by Merscil

[Merscil]

Seriously? No one has any idea on what could be causing this? :S

[Ondrea]

Well, all I can add is that the one time it happened to me, I tracked it down to a mod that added a village at Loreius Farm which is nearby. I disabled the mod and could build fine. It's my understanding it could be related to any mod that adds anything near that area, something that would spawn an animal or tree there, or even something that changes the region names.

 

Just based on my own quick googling of some of your mods, I would disable the Distant Detail mod, as it's considered to be broken and a possible cause of that problem. If it's still an issue after that, go through all your mods to see which were released before Hearthfires came out to see if any of those are the troublesome.

 

Aside from that I'd open them all in TES5Edit and see what changes the blocks in that area.

[Merscil]

Well, all I can add is that the one time it happened to me, I tracked it down to a mod that added a village at Loreius Farm which is nearby. I disabled the mod and could build fine. It's my understanding it could be related to any mod that adds anything near that area, something that would spawn an animal or tree there, or even something that changes the region names.

 

Just based on my own quick googling of some of your mods, I would disable the Distant Detail mod, as it's considered to be broken and a possible cause of that problem. If it's still an issue after that, go through all your mods to see which were released before Hearthfires came out to see if any of those are the troublesome.

 

Aside from that I'd open them all in TES5Edit and see what changes the blocks in that area.

 

Hmm. Seems like a lot of work. I guess I'll start with removing the distant detail mod. Thx for the info.

 

The well in that area still concerns me though, as I'm pretty sure it's not in the vanilla game.

Edited September 17, 2017 by Merscil

[Merscil]

Well after disabling the Distant Detail mod the quest did indeed activate, but now the part of the house I had already built still won't show up, the new parts do though.

 

I was using the Hearthfires compatible version of that mod though, which should have fixed the problem according to the mod author:

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/799877-hearthfire-conflict-with-skyrim-distant-detail-mod/

 

Oh well... I guess there's not much I can do to fix it on this save.

[Ondrea]

 

The well in that area still concerns me though, as I'm pretty sure it's not in the vanilla game.

 

 

The well is from your RND Hearthfires patch.

[Merscil]

Yeah I don't think the well was to blame either, it seemed to have been placed right next to the entryway of the house.

 

Thanks for identifying the distant detail mod though, I didn't think a mod like that could be responsible for something like this.

Just too bad I don't have an earlier save. Someone really should make a mod to demolish hearthfire houses and start over :p