Infinite load screens at Whiterun, and Windhelm. Also other weird stuff...

[nagrom2608]

Hi Guys.

 

Okay got another problem.

 

I've found that I've got infinite load screens at both Whiterun, and Windhelm. I'm currently on Season Unending, so I've had to go to Whiterun, Windhelm, and Solitude. I've been unable to enter both Whiterun, and Windhelm. Through the main gate, and the ONLY way I've got to speak to Jarl Balgruff, was by fast travelling to Dragonsreach, and the only way I could leave was by going to the large porch at the back, and fast travelling from there. I can't COC to ANY location in Windhelm. Also on a more baffling, and comical side note. When I got to Solitude, both General Tullius, and his main female imperial captain, were both.......er........naked!!!

 

The ONLY mods I've got that effect cities is the "Towns and cities enhanced". I've not got any mods that would affect the clothing of certain NPC's. I did notice that when I'm at the gates of Windhelm, and try and enter them, just before the load acreen, and when the gate opens slightly, you can see that there are meshes missing. As in yoy can see the bright blue outer game world.

 

I've tried switching off the TaCE mod, through mod organizer, but this doesn't seem to have made any difference.

 

My load order is this (Backwards thanks to the mod organiser generated file)

 

+Imprefvicticious

+Roadsigns Redone

+RUSTIC WOODPOST and LIGHTPOST

+RUSTIC GARGOYLE

+RUSTIC DEATH HOUND

+RUSTIC EAST EMPIRE COMPANY SIGNAGE

+RUSTIC SILVERWARE

+RUSTIC DINNERWARE

+RUSTIC POTTERY

+RUSTIC FORSWORN

+RUSTIC OVEN - Hearthfires

+RUSTIC ELDERSCROLL

+RUSTIC STANDING STONES

+RUSTIC MONUMENTS AND TOMBSTONES

+RUSTIC WORD WALLS

+RUSTIC NORDIC MURALS

+RUSTIC COOKING STATION

+RUSTIC CLUTTER COLLECTION

+RUSTIC POTIONS and POISONS

+RUSTIC ALCHEMY and ENCHANTING TABLES

+RUSTIC SOULGEMS

+Majestic Mountains

+Skyland - A Landscape Texture Overhaul

+Apophysis Dragon Priest Masks

+Hunter's Cabin of Riverwood

+VioLens - A Killmove Mod

+The Huntsman

+Equip more Rings - English

+RUSTIC DRAGON CORPSE

+Diverse Dragons Collection 2.0

+IslandFastTravel - v1-2

+Cloaks of Skyrim

+Skyrim Wayshrines - Immersive Fast Travel - SWIFT

+Deadly Spell Impacts

+Immersive Fallen Trees Mod

+Name Your Horse

+The Draugr Retexture

+Divine Daedric Dawnbreaker (DDD)

+Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn

+Run For Your Lives

+Bells of Skyrim

+Birds and Flocks Hearthfire Edition

+Birds of Skyrim

+Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO

+A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget

+Celestial Bow

+Immersive Weapons

+Realistic Ragdolls and Force

+Bones and Skeletons Retexture

+Bruma Signs SMIM patch

+Static Mesh Improvement Mod

+D13 Faster GET UP STAND UP animation vanilla friendly

+Convenient Horses

+Immersive Patrols

+Royal Armory - New Artifacts

-Lanterns of Skyrim and Towns and Villages Enhanced patch

+Lanterns of Skyrim Preset for Climates of Tamriel Lvl6 Night (with better flicker effect)

+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One

+Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim

+Wearable Lanterns

+Enhanced Blood Textures

+Peaceful Valley

+Dovahkiin Hideout Continued

+Dovahkiin Retreat Continued

+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads

+Cinematic Fire Effects 2 HD

+Skyrim Immersive Creatures

+SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators

+Better Falskaar and Wyrmstooth Map With Roads

+Enhanced Draugr FX

+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2

+Phenderix Magic Evolved

+Thunderchild - Epic Shouts and Immersion

+Immersive College of Winterhold

+Wet and Cold

+Tentapalooza for Campfire

+Campfire - Complete Camping System

+Frostfall 3.4 Release

+Ultimate Combat

+Deadly_Dragons

+Apotheosis - Lifeless Vaults

+UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul

+Falskaar - Climates of Tamriel patch

+Lightning during Thunder Storms

+True Storms- Climates of Tamriel v5 patch

+True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.5

+Climates of Tamriel - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch

+Climates Of Tamriel-V

+JK's Skyrim

-Towns and Villages Enhanced - Villages

-Towns and Villages Enhanced - Windhelm

-Towns and Villages Enhanced - Riverwood

-Towns and Villages Enhanced - Solitude

-Towns and Villages Enhanced - Whiterun

-Towns and Villages Enhanced - Riften

+Archery Gameplay Overhaul

+Skyrim Community College

+Immersive Dawnguard Dayspring Pass

+Unique Border Gates

+Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Tweaks Enhancements and Patches

+Beyond Skyrim - Bruma

+Skyrim Underground

+Skyrim Sewers 4

+Hammet's Dungeon Packs for LE

+Caranthir Tower Reborn

+Forgotten Dungeons

-Legacy of the Dragonborn (Dragonborn Gallery)

+Falskaar

+Prisoner cart fix

+SkyUI

+ETHEREAL CLOUDS

+Unofficial High Resolution Patch

*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03

*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02

*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01

+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch

*Unmanaged: Dragonborn

*Unmanaged: HearthFires

*Unmanaged: Dawnguard

I'm also experiencing randon CTD's. For many different reasons according to my papyrus logs.

As I NEED to get to Windhelm, the main quest is now dead......

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

UPDATE

If this helps solve the issue, I HAVE managed to COC to Windhelm Barracks (coc windhelmbloodworks), and when I got there, EVERYTHING was missing. Just me sat on an invisible horse, in a large empty space.

I can also COC to the Palace of the Kings exterior. However when I get there, I'm stuck with a view of the mountains, and am unable to move. Just look around.

Clearly there's a mesh, texture problem. Though I'm baffled what, as the only mod is the TaCE. They should just add to teh towns, not remove them completely.

Edited September 26, 2017 by nagrom2608

[Deleted3082751User]

first. ILS (infinite load screen) can be caused by save bloat, so check to see how big your save files are to determine if this is a potential cause

 

second. do you run both Crash Fixes and Bug Fixes, they might help, and you should be running them anyway on a modded skyrim, as they do fix a lot of issues the base game suffers. i would say they are essential if not mandatory mods to have.

 

third. Try save game script cleaner: --> https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/? <-- (it has be known to fix ILS issues among other issues, but only if the ILS is caused by script based issues)

 

 

some mods that stand out and could be potentional causes. for both issues you are experiencing

 

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ILS:

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JK Skyrim = resources intensive, and its edits are right near the entrance to whiterun (potential memory related issue, for example insufficient memory) - this mod does edit towns, both of the towns you mention that your are having ils issues

 

also the enchanced towns and cities seem to be disabled according to your mod list. so i would say that if they were also enabled along side jk skyrim, then that would potentially make this issue more likely to be the reason for ILS. however i don't recognize the enhanced towns mod, but i do know jk skyrim, and do know it is pretty resource intensive.

 

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Naked Entities

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Cloaks of Skyrim + Wet And Cold = Both of these mods apply cloaks to npc, it might be possible that both are attempting to apply cloaks at the same time to the 2 mentioned npc, and thus could cause them to become naked. cloaks are classed as clothing. i only mention these as they apply clothing via leveled lists or scripted leveled lists, either way they will be giving cloaks to npc which could conflict with another mod that also gives gear to npc

 

thats all i can think of atm without additional info

 

i need your system specs, as well as what version of the game you are playing, GPU, CPU and Memory Usage and Temperatures for GPU and CPU - to help determine if this is a hardware or software issue or not

 

have you deleted any script related mods in an active playthrough (or any mod for that matter), the reason i ask is because you mention both ILS and CTD which has a high chance of being caused by deleted scripted mods in an active playthrough, this would cause save bloat, and eventual save game corruption.

 

ILS = Typically caused by save bloat, or insufficient memory.

 

CTD = can be caused by a lot of things, Missing required mods, mod conflicts, badly scripted mods, severe script latency issues, etc etc

 

Ignore papyrus logs, they will not help you. 90% of that information is irrelevant, none of which will tell you the cause of ctds.

Edited September 26, 2017 by Guest

[nagrom2608]

Thanks for the info.

 

As far as Windhelm goes, it looks like a weather bug. I found a post on another forum from someone encountering a similar problem. A solution was to clear the weather just before you enter Windhelm. Through the console. This worked, and I was able to enter no problem.

 

As for the naked npc's. Your thought could be right, as in running BOTH W&C, and Cloaks. I'll check the Nexus pages for patches. When running them both together.

 

Cheers for the info.

[nagrom2608]

Okay naked people mystery solved.

For anyone suffering the same issue, it was the "IMMERSIVE ARMOUURS" mod. I had this installed, then switched it off mid game, as it was causing some other issues. It obviously added custom armour to these two characters. This armour vanished when I turned off the mod.

 

I just reinstalled it, and hey presto! They're no longer performing a strip show.

 

Hope this helps others.