Lower FPS over playtime

[Closertothesun]

As the title suggests, my game seems to go from 60 down to a constant 33-47fps over playtime and only resolves itself when restarting the game and loading back in.

I've tried all the prescribed methods: Autopurge, NVSR, Performance of the gods. No dice.

It sucks because this is the most stable New Vegas load order I've ever had, no crashes, no texture problems, it's just this framerate bug.

 

*****LOAD ORDER*****

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

NVEC Complete.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

FreesideOpen.esm

New Vegas Redesigned 3.esm

FCOMaster.esm

Run the Lucky 38.esm

NVInteriors_Core.esm

NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

Momod.esm

SaxxonsQuestPack.esm

Gomorrah Redesigned v2.esp

NVStripOpen.esm

The New Bison Steve Hotel.esm

Bitter Springs Redesigned.esp

Sortomatic.esm

AWOPDeadMoney.esm

Caliber.esm

CaliberXhonesthearts.esm

More Perks - DLC.esm

Casa Madrid Redesigned.esp

Afterschool Special.esm

Shogo_Heavy_Industries.esm

Freeside Open - AWOP.esm

Sortomatic-AWOP.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

oHUD.esm

NosCo Companion System.esm

NCCS Nos' Premade Companions.esm

SolidProject.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm

Courier's Radio.esm

Craft Master.esm

CASE.esm

Craft Pack.esm

CaliberXgunrunners.esm

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

FCO - The New Bison Steve.esp

FCO - GlowingOne.esp

Performance Of The Gods.esp

BetterPerformance.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

New Vegas Redesigned 3.esp

The Lucky 38 Empire.esp

FreesideOpenPatch.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

HarderThan.esp

StripOpenMain.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

WMX-DLCMerged.esp

ModFusion.esp

WeightlessAmmo.esp

NVEC PN COMBO Patch.esp

AG Supplementary Uniques-AllInOne.esp

AWOPMonsterPatch.esp

Alternative Start.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.esp

AWOPDeadMoney.esp

NVEC Complete AWOP Patch.esp

FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - All DLC.esp

Nights are Darker - Ultimate Edition.esp

Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro_NV.esp

DarNifiedUINV.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

Hardcore (Double Rates).esp

HarderThan-PN.esp

HarderThan-HH.esp

FastSleepNV.esp

IMPACT.esp

ImmersivePickupSoundsFNV.esp

SneakFoley.esp

Steve The Radroach.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

Faster Terminals.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

1nivVSLArmors.esp

1nivPNSLPatch.esp

ILO - YUP Patch.esp

Readius_NV.esp

DMHO.esp

SR556.esp

CASM with MCM.esp

ADAM Complete.esp

ADAM - MERGE.esp

AWOP Interim Fixes.esp

New Vegas Trade Center.esp

AG Supplementary Uniques-GRA.esp

WMX-POPMerged.esp

MyMergedPatch.esp

AWOP-NVR3.esp

Project Nevada - WMX.esp

Hardened-AWOP.esp

Hardened-AWOP-MoMod.esp

Hardened-MoMod.esp

Hardened-AWOP-MonsterPatch.esp

Platinum Radio.esp

shogo_heavy_industries_amends.esp

EnhancedGrass.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.CaliberX4+.Patch.esp

OldWorldRadio.esp

Real Recoil.esp

IronSightsFoley.esp

Reload Sounds.esp

WeaponAnimations.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

ILO - A World of Pain.esp

ILO - NVInteriors Project.esp

ENB: Enhanced Shaders w/ Depth of field enabled.

[Closertothesun]

UPDATE: Saving and loading seems to fix it till it happens again and you have to save and load again.

Still, if anybody knows the underlying issue and how to fix it that would be awesome because the saving loading thing really kills immersion.

[Closertothesun]

bump

[dubiousintent]

Your load order doesn't tell us if you have a bunch of "hi-rez" textures installed, or are running a "greater than 1920x1080" display. While your hardware may be capable of handling that load, the game wasn't designed for it. Try using lower rez textures (1024x1024 for instance) or lower your display quality and size as a test.

 

Please see the 'Solutions to Performance problems' and 'Solutions to Post-Processor (ENB/SweetFX et. al.) problems' sections in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide for other suggestions.

Are you running on Win10? ENB on Win10 usually exhibits a similar FPS drop. 30FPS is certainly playable, and was the norm for a 32-bit game seven years ago. A faster framerate is not really necessary for this game.

 

-Dubious-

[Closertothesun]

I am using 4k textures as well as win10.

 

Like I said, it fixes itself if i load a save, and I'd rather do that than play lower than 60fps (I'm really anal about that when it comes to bethesda games).

 

I feel like I shouldn't have to downgrade my textures though. My rig is a beast and I feel like mod authors wouldn't post 4k textures if they knew it would screw up your framerate right?

[KiCHo666]

Might be some scripts that hog the game the more you play it or some object references don't get cleared correctly.
Like dubiousintent said, your PC might handle it, but the engine is not meant to handle so many plugins.

[Closertothesun]

Ok, anyway to force restart scripts in increments or anything?

 

I've cleaned my save by the way so there are no orphaned scripts.

 

Also, are there any ini changes you might recommend? I've seen a lot of forums post about low fps over playtime but a lot of the solutions are those kind of "duh" solutions like installing NVAC or NVSR which I already have.

[Closertothesun]

I think it might be worthy to note that I'm using 4064 as the texturemb pool and 512 as the reserved texturemb pool in enblocal.ini

Edited October 23, 2017 by Closertothesun

[dubiousintent]

Events that occur over time (especially when they "go away" upon restarting) generally indicate gradual "memory exhaustion" due to "leaks" that don't get cleaned up. I don't recognize either "texturemb pool" or "reserved texturemb pool" settings from either "enblocal.ini" or "enbseries.ini" on the STEP Project pages (which are my "goto" reference). That doesn't mean anything, but they would like to hear about such settings if you can provide a reference for them. Those settings may be playing a role, as too high (large) a setting can cause issues just as too low (small) a setting can.

 

4K textures are already putting a massive strain on a game that never contemplated images greater than 2096x2096 pixels (generally considered "large" or "hi-rez" sizes). Then you have to remember that graphic display resolutions are measured in "pixels per inch" ("ppi"), so a 4K UHD (Ultra HD), also referred to as UHDTV-1 or 4K × 2K, is a display resolution of 3840×2160 pixels (four times as many pixels as FHD: 1920×1080 which was the usual design limit for later 32-bit games) in the same 16:9 aspect ratio. (Screens are measured diagonally, so it is not a simple "double each dimension" formula.) Then you have to account for "depth" as well as "color range" information as part of the memory requirement for each pixel. You don't indicate if you are using "ENBoost", which is virtually a requirement for 4K textures. Please see "Texture Size" on the TESTG site "Overview" page.

 

Again: with older games you can't always get what you want. You have to settle for what they can provide.

 

-Dubious-

Edited October 23, 2017 by dubiousintent

[Closertothesun]

These are the settings I was talking about:

ReservedMemorySizeMb=512

VideoMemorySizeMb=4064

I was just too lazy to open the file at the time to see what the actual name was.

Are you saying if I downloaded 4k textures but am running the game at 1920x1080 it's a useless venture?

I'm not 100% sure how these things work.