CTD West of Whiterun

[Maracuchote300]

Hey guys, I've been trying to get Skyrim to run for a long while :/ and It would crash a lot when I had WARZONES mod installed, since then I've reset my computer and didn't include that mod in my new game, and it works perfectly fine, except I ran west of Whiterun near a fort and it crashes :sad: :sad: I have no idea what mod could be the culprit, I use LOOT to fix my load order too and this is my load order

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
6 6 TKChildren.esm
7 7 BSAssets.esm
8 8 ApachiiHair.esm
9 9 BSHeartland.esm
10 a BS_DLC_patch.esp
11 b SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
12 c LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
13 d Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
14 e ELE_SSE.esp
15 f NAT.esp
16 10 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
17 11 TrueStormsSE.esp
18 12 Unbelievable Grass Two.esp
19 13 yot - your own thoughts.esp
20 14 Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp
21 15 Helgen Reborn.esp
22 16 Grass Clipping Fix.esp
23 17 skyBirds_SSE.esp
24 18 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
25 19 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
26 1a OwnCivilWar.esp
27 1b Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
28 1c Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
29 1d inigo.esp
30 1e immersive patrols ii.esp
31 1f Vigilant.esp
Blowing in the Wind - RLO Major City Exteriors Patch SSE.esp
32 20 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
33 21 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
34 22 notice board.esp
35 23 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
36 24 HoldBorderBanners.esp
37 25 Convenient Horses.esp
38 26 ravengate.esp
39 27 Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp
40 28 Andromeda.esp
41 29 Mortal Enemies.esp
42 2a Joy of Perspective.esp
43 2b TKChildren.esp
44 2c Runandwalkpaces.esp
45 2d attack commitment movement speed fluid 3.esp
46 2e Backshields.esp
47 2f Vigilant Voiced.esp
48 30 High Level Enemies.esp
49 31 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
50 32 High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
51 33 Dual Blocking for Idiots v1.35a.esp
52 34 LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp
53 35 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
54 36 ScopedBows.esp
55 37 ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
56 38 ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
57 39 SkyUI_SE.esp
58 3a Unique Uniques.esp
59 3b Customizable Camera.esp
60 3c UnreadBooksGlow.esp
61 3d FNIS.esp
62 3e AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
63 3f Better Daedric Artefacts.esp
64 40 Better Shrouded Armour - SSE.esp
65 41 BetterMasterSpells.esp
66 42 Brighter toggleable Candlelight and Torches.esp
67 43 Beards.esp
68 44 CharacterMakingExtender.esp
69 45 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
70 46 TrueEyes.esp
71 47 vikingguards.esp
72 48 visible favorited gear.esp
73 49 arcania all in one.esp
74 4a apophysis_dpm_se.esp
75 4b icepenguinworldmap.esp
76 4c ajd_socialconcious_solitudescholar_sse_pc.esp
77 4d real mountains.esp
78 4e dd - enhanced blood main.esp
79 4f unofficial skyrim survival patch.esp
Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
80 50 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
81 51 SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
82 52 Character Creation Overhaul.esp
83 53 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
84 54 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
85 55 CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
86 56 alternate start - live another life.esp
87 57 relationship dialogue overhaul.esp

[yian]

What is the name of the fort?

 

Are you using SKSE64? You should mention that. It is kinda important information.

Edited October 20, 2017 by yian

[Maracuchote300]

Fort Greymoor, and yeah my bad I'm using SKSE64

[QKBNEXUS]

I had the same problem and i did everything i could to solve, after update of the mod "arcania all in one" solved, should be related somehow, im not sure. The mod had some update and then the CTD near Whiterun stoped, i disabled other mods too, so i dont know, try disable arcania all in one to check it out too or try the update.

I was checking every mod, disabled most of them, it was betwen 3 mods for sure, arcania all in one, jackga female animations or MaidsII - Wild Enconters, should be related somehow but im not sure, CTD stoped until now, im running near Whiterun a lot now and nothing yet.

Edited October 30, 2017 by QKBNEXUS

[sockmonz]

I am also getting consistent crashes when I attempt to approach Fort Greymoore. I can usually only make just little bit farther than than the western watch tower when I'm coming from the east, and when coming from the west I crash a little past swindlers den. I do not use skse64. Mods ordered with loot and bashed patch made. sseedit shows no warnings. I checked mods that I thought might be affecting it. I properly reordered with loot every time and rebuilt bashed patch when appropriate. Maybe there is a conflict I overlooked? Maybe it is a specific mod? The OP and I have a lot of the same mods maybe our problems could be the same. Also I've verified cache with steam.

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 BSAssets.esm

7 7 BSHeartland.esm

8 8 BSPatchSE.esp

9 9 WinterholdDestruction.esm

10 a SkyMoMod.esm

11 b arnima.esm

12 c Sneak Tools.esp

13 d Campfire.esm

14 e Falskaar.esm

15 f Gray Fox Cowl.esm

16 10 Wyrmstooth.esp

17 11 Cutting Room Floor.esp

18 12 Bring Out Your Dead.esp

19 13 icepenguinworldmap.esp

20 14 ElementalArrows.esp

21 15 BosmerElderShadowArmor.esp

22 16 MannequinStayPut.esp

23 17 StavesAtback.esp

24 18 TelvanniRobes.esp

25 19 Tribunal Robes for SSE.esp

26 1a Visible Favorited Gear.esp

WhitePhialBetterAlignments.esp

27 1b EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

28 1c MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp

29 1d Immersive Jewelry.esp

30 1e NecromancerAmulet.esp

31 1f RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp

32 20 BlackthornManor.esp

33 21 Helgen Reborn.esp

34 22 Solitude Expansion.esp

35 23 RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp

Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp

36 24 SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp

37 25 volkihar knight.esp

38 26 Wyrmstooth - Legacy Edition.esp

39 27 SkyHavenTempleRestored.esp

40 28 goodbrother.esp

41 29 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

42 2a Man Those Borders!.esp

43 2b SC08WayshrineTamriel.esp

44 2c Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

45 2d AKSkyrimUnderground.esp

46 2e Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged.esp

47 2f MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

48 30 Training Dummies & Targets - Falskaar Edition.esp

49 31 Holidays.esp

50 32 OwnCivilWar.esp

51 33 Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp

52 34 ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp

53 35 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

54 36 Point The Way.esp

55 37 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

56 38 Clockwork.esp

57 39 Tes Arena Nimalten.esp

58 3a TheScarlett.esp

59 3b Oblivion Gates Remade.esp

60 3c Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

61 3d PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

62 3e SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp

63 3f Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

64 40 TES Arena Amol.esp

65 41 Silverstead.esp

66 42 HeljarchenFarm.esp

67 43 Immersive Patrols II.esp

68 44 UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

69 45 Tentapalooza.esp

70 46 Dolmen Ruins.esp

71 47 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged.esp

72 48 UniqueBorderGates - No Pale Pass Gate.esp

73 49 Hunterborn.esp

74 4a TacticalValtheim.esp

75 4b Shor's Stone.esp

76 4c Skyshards.esp

77 4d NarrativeLoot Complete.esp

78 4e Bloodworm.esp

79 4f ReachMageIS.esp

80 50 Frostfall.esp

81 51 Ivarstead.esp

82 52 Vigilant.esp

83 53 Helarchen Creek.esp

84 54 Provincial Courier Service.esp

85 55 Kynesgrove.esp

86 56 ShadowMagic.esp

87 57 RedspireManor.esp

88 58 Soljund's Sinkhole.esp

89 59 Karthwasten.esp

90 5a Dragon Bridge.esp

91 5b notice board.esp

92 5c blackreachrailroadnew.esp

93 5d Improved Dragon Priest Masks.esp

94 5e GrahlsOnSolstheim.esp

95 5f StagPrinceBow.esp

96 60 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

97 61 Faction Crossbows.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

98 62 StendarrsHammer.esp

99 63 DustAdept.esp

100 64 altarOfTheRevenant.esp

101 65 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

102 66 HoldBorderBanners.esp

103 67 CombatCross.esp

104 68 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

105 69 Chrysamere.esp

106 6a Equippable Tomes.esp

107 6b MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp

108 6c MCoW_CampfirePatch.esp

109 6d Mortal Enemies - Rival Remix.esp

110 6e Vigilant Voiced.esp

111 6f Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp

112 70 Unique Uniques.esp

113 71 1nivWICCloaks.esp

Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods - Winter Is Coming.esp

114 72 WetandCold.esp

115 73 LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp

116 74 More Weapons Please.esp

RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp

117 75 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp

118 76 sirwho_wizard_hat.esp

SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp

119 77 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp

120 78 ogSplendorDragons.esp

121 79 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

122 7a SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp

123 7b Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp

124 7c DiverseWerewolvesCollection_MoonlightTales.esp

125 7d LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp

126 7e Combat Evolved.esp

127 7f SeeEnchs.esp

128 80 Convenient Horses.esp

129 81 Ravengate.esp

130 82 Gildergreen Regrown.esp

131 83 Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp

132 84 RuinsEdge.esp

133 85 moonpath.esp

134 86 MBW Dragon Souls to Perk Points.esp

135 87 UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp

136 88 Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp

137 89 RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp

138 8a WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp

139 8b Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

140 8c Open Cities Skyrim.esp

141 8d Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

142 8e ELFXEnhancer.esp

143 8f Open Cities Skyrim - Holidays.esp

144 90 Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp

145 91 Darkwater Crossing.esp

146 92 Whistling Mine.esp

147 93 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

148 94 MCoW_ELFX_Enhancer.esp

149 95 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Edited November 5, 2017 by sockmonz

[jones177]

Hi

 

Some perks in Ordinator can cause CTDs. These CTDs only occur when you are in proximity to NPCs that are influenced by a conflicting mod.

 

These are the hardest CTDs to fix because it may be 2 or more mods conflicting with Ordinator.

 

To find out if you have an Ordinator issue use the papyrus log. If it is Ordinator you will see a perk firing before the CTD. Any mods mentioned before the CTD may be the conflicting mod. It takes several logs to find a trend.

 

Another way to test for perk CTDs is to go as close to the CTD as possible & use the console command tfc. That frees the camera so you can move into the CTD area without your body. Conflicting NPCs will not be aware of you so no CTD. If it is another kind of CTD it will not matter if you are in body or not.

 

I used Ordinator in oldrim. The perk trees are a minefield when you have a large load list. The way I fixed my game was after finding the problem perk I would to go to or do the Dragonborn DLC quest so I could remove the perk from the tree.

 

Later

[Highwayman300]

Hi

 

Some perks in Ordinator can cause CTDs. These CTDs only occur when you are in proximity to NPCs that are influenced by a conflicting mod.

 

These are the hardest CTDs to fix because it may be 2 or more mods conflicting with Ordinator.

 

To find out if you have an Ordinator issue use the papyrus log. If it is Ordinator you will see a perk firing before the CTD. Any mods mentioned before the CTD may be the conflicting mod. It takes several logs to find a trend.

 

Another way to test for perk CTDs is to go as close to the CTD as possible & use the console command tfc. That frees the camera so you can move into the CTD area without your body. Conflicting NPCs will not be aware of you so no CTD. If it is another kind of CTD it will not matter if you are in body or not.

 

I used Ordinator in oldrim. The perk trees are a minefield when you have a large load list. The way I fixed my game was after finding the problem perk I would to go to or do the Dragonborn DLC quest so I could remove the perk from the tree.

 

Later

 

I had a lot of problems with Ordinator as well. Seems that if your script load is too high, take too many perks with varied effects, or simply your system isn't good enough, the game will crash a lot. This was evident when I was playing Oldrim in a very low end system and NPCs used chain lightning. The game would crash all the time if NPCs had any perks that benefited from the spell.

 

As for the issue at hand, if its not a conflict it could be a mesh error of some sort. Disabling mods that alter the environment or armor NPCs could be using might be a good place to start.

[sockmonz]

I have tried what you suggested. I think it's not Ordinator because even after disabling it ( and starting again from a vanilla save right out of the helgen cave) I still ctd at the same spot. I did not ctd when free cameraing there. Not running out of memory or cpu. opened resource monitor as far as I could tell it never hit 100% I was only watching the total though. Memory hung around 40-50%.

Side note used bash to set training limit to 25 don't know if that's a bad idea and/or relevant. will attempt more process of elimination later. needs sleeps.

[sockmonz]

Well it appears to be something related to beyond bruma. I've realized I don't have the latest version and that I'm supposed to manually install it. I'm going to download the new version and try it.

 

Edit: yup it was from using the wrong version of Bruma. Make sure you are using V1.3.3 Maracuchote300, that might be your problem too.

Edited November 10, 2017 by sockmonz