flaurk Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) After coming back to Skyrim after a few years and trying out a few mods i went a little over the deep end and ended up downloading over 50 or so . now im running into the problem of the game freezing every few mins no matter what im doing at the time. i'v tried Loot and redownloading everything but im not a very smart man and going through one by one and disabling stuff is taking a bit too long . was wonderign any i can get any suggestions. apon further crashes research one way i can trigger a crash is by scrolling over a item in my misc called " silver candelabra blue" unable to find this item id anywere, silver candlestick always comes up instead and i cant find the mod thats adding that sorta item Edited November 5, 2017 by flaurk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowolves80 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 First, in-game, open the console and type help "silver candelabra blue" 0 and get the form ID, then google that.Second, run WryeBash, look for orange boxes, not text. If you have orange or red text, that's a different issue entirely.Third, what mod manager are you using? The more information you can provide us, the better. What is your system specs? That will let us rule out VRAM issues, or point them out.Redownloading everything, and then reinstalling things out of the original order of installation (hence, why I'm agonizing over my mod install list), especially with NMM, can muck things up. NMM sucks in that it doesn't allow you to hot-swap load priorities the way MO does (and is one of the things people are bitching prematurely about at Tannin and the new Vortex mod manager coming out in January, even though nothing has been released about it--patience seems to be lacking amongst modders, myself included at times!). This is why I'm writing out my mod install order so I can use NMM to just reduplicate it over and over, once the order is properly laid out. FOMOD patching complicates it.For future reference (are you paying attention, me? lol), you can, instead of posting a text file, just use spoiler brackets to hide the list, like this:[ spoiler ] (without spaces)Insert Text Here [ /spoiler ]Also, did you clean the masters? Update.esm, and all the DLCs (and Dawnguard twice, yes, twice). Your best bet would be to get the CK (it's not scary, I promise), then make a list of mods off your mod list above of mods that could add a candelabra (house mods, clutter mods, new lands mods...), and open those up in the CK then search for that form ID.This will cover the basics, and we'll go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaurk Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 First, in-game, open the console and type help "silver candelabra blue" 0 and get the form ID, then google that. Second, run WryeBash, look for orange boxes, not text. If you have orange or red text, that's a different issue entirely. Third, what mod manager are you using? The more information you can provide us, the better. What is your system specs? That will let us rule out VRAM issues, or point them out. Redownloading everything, and then reinstalling things out of the original order of installation (hence, why I'm agonizing over my mod install list), especially with NMM, can muck things up. NMM sucks in that it doesn't allow you to hot-swap load priorities the way MO does (and is one of the things people are bitching prematurely about at Tannin and the new Vortex mod manager coming out in January, even though nothing has been released about it--patience seems to be lacking amongst modders, myself included at times!). This is why I'm writing out my mod install order so I can use NMM to just reduplicate it over and over, once the order is properly laid out. FOMOD patching complicates it. For future reference (are you paying attention, me? lol), you can, instead of posting a text file, just use spoiler brackets to hide the list, like this: [ spoiler ] (without spaces) Insert Text Here [ /spoiler ] Also, did you clean the masters? Update.esm, and all the DLCs (and Dawnguard twice, yes, twice). Your best bet would be to get the CK (it's not scary, I promise), then make a list of mods off your mod list above of mods that could add a candelabra (house mods, clutter mods, new lands mods...), and open those up in the CK then search for that form ID. This will cover the basics, and we'll go from there.3B003C37 is the code i get for the item but googling it comes up with nothing. i downloaded and used WryeBash and only some orange boxes but no text , i use NMM and LOOT , im not a very tech savy person or very knowldgeable about this stuff so i only download things useing NMM then use loot to order it then hope it worksProcessor Intel® Core i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz, 4001 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)Total Virtual Memory 18.8 GBAvailable Physical Memory 9.40 GBInstalled Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GBdont know if thats what you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowolves80 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) Yep, that's what we need. So you have 16GB of RAM. What's your GPU looking like? CPU is no problem, either. So we don't have to worry about throttling from lack of RAM/VRAM. That's good.It's okay if you're not tech savvy. I know how to open the CK and load files...and that's about it. lolA good place to start when you do an install (especially if you're just starting out) is the STEP guide. Yes, they use MO, and no, you don't have to and can still follow along (I've done it several times). Just go slow, take your time, write notes if you have to. Aside from it being a good list of mods, it's a good resource for other bits of information (like this for configuring your ini files).In the meantime, though...I believe you can load up your mods through TESVEdit, and then search for that record number. There is a way. You may have to play with it a bit to find it, just don't save anything, and you'll be fine.The orange box mods mean that the masters are not in the order that mod expects them to be (most likely because the author had his masters in a different order when he/she made the mod). This is not like LOOT in that it means that the masters are out of order. Completely different.To fix is easy. Simply leave wrye open, open TESVEdit, right click on the pane where it asks you what to load, select none, then tick ONLY that mod that is orange in Wrye (and yes, do them one at a time). Wait for it to finish loading. Right click the mod in the left pane, select Sort Masters. It will look like nothing happened. That's okay. The way you know it did is when you close out--it will prompt you to save. Select Save. Done. Now, when you re-run Wrye, those mods will be green and happy.That reduces one more variable you'll never have to worry about. Did you clean your masters? Do you have a clean save? Those are the other two things. A clean save is a vanilla save with no mods installed yet. You can usually find one floating around, or ask others to give you a copy. Basically, you sit through the dragon attack, and escape with Ralof (really? You're choosing the Imperials? The guys who just tried cutting off your head?) or whoever, and once you reach an interior space in Riverwood, then you save. That's your clean save. Now you begin adding mods and tweaking. No matter what else happens, you'll never have to sit through that intro scene ever again. Cheers.Cleaning the masters is also important. If you don't know how, I'll walk you through it. Edited November 5, 2017 by twowolves80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaurk Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) So i'v done everything suggested and the item is still in my inventory with no way for me to get rid of it and the game crashes anytime i go over it, also the game is still freezing at random times, im resorting down to starting a brand new clean save and then download my mods one at a time and play a bit to see how well its gonna work Edited November 5, 2017 by flaurk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowolves80 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) You might not need to. That's what I said at the beginning. We're just eliminating the basic variables now, doing the simple fixes. Like I said before, I'm almost positive there's a way to load up records in TESVEdit, and then search for that record number. You just do them one at a time. Give me a second, and I'll see if I can find it.EDIT: It's not TESVEdit you have to use, it's le CK. Here are the instructions on how to find it. Took me less than five minutes to find on the first page to pop up on Bing.Two Wolves ftw. :P Edited November 5, 2017 by twowolves80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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