How to make joining a guild cost an upfront sum?

[SweetDaggerfall]

I like the idea of having to pay a one time entry/membership fee for joining the guilds.

 

So i've been looking for a mod to do this in Oblivion, and so far i've not been able to find any. I think there was one for Morrowind.

 

I'm pretty good with TES4Edit, but was wondering if i'd need to use the Construction Set to make this kind of mod?

 

Any help, pointers or tips on how to proceed gratefully received :)

 

 

[Valyn81]

It has been a long time since I played that. But, have you tried editing the quest just before you are accepted to Charge you at the end or maybe Set a quest to take place just before you are accepted that requires you to pay?

 

Also, the entry fee for most guilds is a series of quests that has you do something dangerous. So, a fee would be rather redundant and unfair to some.

[SweetDaggerfall]

Well in TES4Edit i can see that under Oblivion.esm>Quest, FormID (00024298) is the 'Join the Fighters Guild' Quest. And this has a number of stages.

 

10 is when you first hear that the Fighters Guild is looking for new recruits (triggers from NPC dialogue you have or overhear), and that gives you the first entry in your journal.

 

20, 22 and 25 are entries when you first talk to the 3 Fighters Guild heads that can allow you to join (Vilena Donton in Chorrol, Azzam in Anvil and Burz gro-Khash in Cheydinhal).

 

100 is for 'Quest Complete' and you have agreed to join the guild.

 

Those are the only quest entries.I would edit the dialogues of the NPC's above so the text would show it costs x to join (like 50-100 Gold perhaps), the spoken dialogue would have to remain as default.I would edit the player chars dialogue with those NPC's to also include that info, e.g. 'Pay 50 Gold and Join the Fighters Guild'.

 

The log entry for stage 20,22 and 25 would have to have an amount added e.g. 'I have spoken to Azzan. He has told me I must not be a wanted criminal or have a long history of lawlessness, and i need to pay a membership fee of 50 gold in order to join the Fighters Guild.'

 

So that covers the basic dialogue options. The tricky bit is the actual gold calculation. I had a look at the Inn functions for hiring a bed, and the way that handles a cost and deducts that from your gold so you can then sleep in an Inn, and i guess that kind of thing would need to be added to the Quest Stage above, probably in the stage 100 part?

 

The code from the Inn looks like this (if set at 50 Gold):

 

Result Script:SCTX - Result script source: player.removeitem Gold001 50References:SCRO - Global Reference: Player [00000014]SCRO - Global Reference: Gold001 "Gold" [MISC:0000000F]

But there is also some preceeding bits that will probably be important.

 

Anyway in TES4Edit it looks like it would be messy to try to do, unless you really know exactly what your doing.

 

So maybe i'd be better trying it in the CS, although i have never used that yet, so expect a learning curve!

 

In short i think i have the dialogue options all worked out, which NPC dialogue to change etc, it is just the actual gold calculation and deduction from the player, via the needed script i have no real idea on how to do properly.

Edited November 9, 2017 by SweetDaggerfall