Possible Catch-All for Blacksmith/Alchemist/Sitting Glitch

[Disschorde]

TL;DR Do the last 5 things.

 

 

So up until recently I had a bug that had seemed to be ending a lot of people's games through sheer annoyance. The premise is that whenever you try to interact with an object that requires a specific idle animation to be played while you are using is (all tables, enchantment tables, smithies, etc.) you would do the initial animation to start, if you were using an enchantment table or another object that brings up a menu, the menu would pop up, but you would immediately quit out for no reason.

 

Obviously this is a huge pain and can be very scary as it is hard to pinpoint when the glitch actually took place.

 

 

 

 

So first off, what is going on?

 

1. We know it's an animation error and we know why it's happening. In general, animations in Skyrim have a beginning and end set time, this goes for mods too. The way the game works (as far as I can tell) it calls a certain animation when a given flag is flipped and then the animation plays. Normally the animation ends and the game realises this and you move on with your day as normal. What is causing the glitch however, is one of your animations ends, but the game doesn't realise it. This happens very infrequently with vanilla animations (but is still possible) , but I have found can happen extremely easily with modded animations (Such as with Immersive Beds and Better Vampires).

 

2. I have found this glitch to become much more common the heavier the load of scripts you have the game running is. In my game, I have Frostfall, iNeed, Better Vampires, Immersive Beds, and a whole other host of SKSE required mods running and I think this is a huge contributing factor seeing as the game is constantly trying to read all these scripts and can easily miss a flag here or there.

 

3. It seems to be affected by playtime. I know I was playing the game for a while before it started cropping up (especially with all the mods and SKSE plugins I had installed). I think this is because the longer you play, and the bigger the save files get, the more stuff the game has to process which increases it's chances of missing the flag that turns of the animation.

 

4. Better Vampires and Immersive Beds can be the culprit. Now, this doesn't mean that these are bad mods. All it means is that the animation system that Bethesda put into the game is very very fragile and when you insert scripts that weren't changed how specific parts of the game worked and included animations, the game could get very easily confused. What seems to happen with Better vampires is that the feeding animations can get cut short, or not even play at all, which leads right into this glitch. . . sometimes. Honestly it seems like a small fraction of the time when the animations break that the glitch occurs, and I don't know why it isn't consistent. With Immersive Beds, a possible symptom of the glitch is that the animation that plays when you get into bed just doesn't occur. If this happens, you are best off going right to the Catch-All at the bottom.

 

3. Once this glitch happpens, unless you can find a wayto reset your animation scripts in game, or you manage to flip the little flag that tells the game that the animation it thinks it needs to interrupt you for is inactive, you're screwed.

 

Now that that is over with, hopefully someone can work on a better solution than the one that I came up with, or the ones that various orther sources have found (like maybe a patch if it's possible)

 

 

 

 

So now for the part that you probably actually came for: How to solve this.

 

First I'm going to list minor solutions that have worked for other people. They are extremely inconsistent though and they only work for me sometimes and sometimes the glitch persists through the method even though it seems to be fixed.

 

1. Using a shout. just stand still and use one of your shouts. As far as I can tell it doesn't matter which one you use, but if you are using Better Vampires you probably don't want to use the Detect Aura one.

 

2. Going to jail. I've seen that this tends to reset a lot of issues, and I have seen some success stories of this working for some people. So go out there and punch a guard, he deserves it.

 

3. Interrupting someone else. I've seen people get around this by waiting for someone else to start using the thing that they are trying to use, or anything else for that matter, and then interrupting them. You'll get the "Someone else is using this prompt" and then they will stop, and you can try to use it after them.

 

4. Go into the console and type "player.tai" without the quotes, it will probably turn off the animations for you, so you want to do it again so that it says that they are on. Heads up, I haven't seen anyone say that this worked,but I have seen it suggested a tonne.

 

 

 

 

So now finally for my Catch-All.

 

If you are like me, and none of these simpler, less pain inducing options worked for you, have no fear (maybe)! I was thinking about what causes the issue, and all I wanted was an option to just reset the animation scripts and clean the massive cache that the game had generated over the playing time, but I couldn't find anything that did that. Until I looked in the Immersive Beds MCM menu.

 

Here's what you need to do:

 

1. Download Immersive Beds. You literally never have to use it, you are only going to use one function of it.

 

2. Go in game and wait for the MCM to realise that it exists.

 

3. Go into the menu and click the option that says something along the lines of Resetting the mod.

 

4. Exit the menu and wait for a little hitch in your frame rate.

 

5. It should be fixed.

 

 

 

 

This is the only consistent and logical solution that I have found, considering it purges all of the animations from the game for a split second (again as far as I know) and then allows them to pick back up. Now like I said earlier, this glitch does seem to be affected by playtime, so if you start having it again, go back into your Immersive Beds MCM and reset those scripts!

 

If I'm wrong or this is already somewhere else, feel free to ban me :smile:

[bigdaman151]

creating a batch file with the following command seems like a more straightforward way of dealing with this as opposed to using up an ESP slot for a single feature of a mod. I will definitely keep this in mind though thanks for the input

player.pushactoraway 14 1

 

[Tortilladog]

First of all, the command "player.pushactoraway 14 1" is not fixing the issue for me, so that solution does not seem to work.

Second of all, Immersive Beds is a LE mod, is there any way to do this fix for SE?

 

[Rodr1sen]

Hello, you should try the hug idle, sorry but I have no idea what the command is, I read it at some point or saw it in a video, it is the best (in most cases) to turn back the camera and character movement and unstuck her/him