Waller91 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 From colorful valleys with breathtaking detail, all the way to the vast wilderness of relentless Tundra, its no secret that Skyrim has some of the most astonishing terrain that gamers have ever ventured on. What percentage of game-play hours would you say were spent of just enjoying a sunrise? Climbing a mountain, so that you may get a peak of the rift? Or maybe sticking with the river, in hopes to find some off-route treasure? What are some of your favorite locations? Most beautiful moments? As an accomplished "Davahkiin" I seek to go beyond the boarders of fate, and destiny. Give some great locations/caves so that I, and others, may approach such locations and enjoy its beauty/danger. Any and all posts are welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunado3 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) Skyrim - A game for newbs, casuals and the unreceptive. IMO. With that said, I liked Shadowgreen Cavern best of all in vanilla Skyrim. The mod Moonpaths: Elsweyr however is some of the best looking environments Ive seen in any ES. Edited March 16, 2012 by Fortunado3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionHunter Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Very good point - sometimes I watch the sun, just because I have sun glare mod, then I just continue and run... and run ... well I have watched skies a couple of times - I'm just so in hurry to do sum lol. BUT if you use ENB series or similar, it changes views very much, even when doing.. well whatever your doing, if u get my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver219 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Fortuanado3, the statement "Skyrim - A game for newbs, casuals and the unreceptive. IMO." taken as a whole makes absolutely no sense. Unreceptive of or to what exactly would be my first question? Not to mention, if you are playing it, don't you fall into the three categories you just mentioned? Now back on topic, I agree with Shadowgreen Cavern :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunado3 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) Fortuanado3, the statement "Skyrim - A game for newbs, casuals and the unreceptive. IMO." taken as a whole makes absolutely no sense. Unreceptive of or to what exactly would be my first question? Not to mention, if you are playing it, don't you fall into the three categories you just mentioned? Now back on topic, I agree with Shadowgreen Cavern :thumbsup:No, as in the game was a complete compromise from the dumbing down and extra hand holding, coupled with all of the cut fundamental features from the ES series. Beth's PR, marketing and subsequent decisions on the mechanics and gameplay were targeted to people new to the series, or the previously unreceptive gamers that were not interested in ES, or even RPGs before. People that didn't want to have to think, or make character decisions that *gasp* mattered. Skyrim still isn't complete to me. Lack of spell creation, degradation, attributes, acrobatics, and H2H as a skill are travesties. Thank god for mods. I can just imagine whats next for the Fallout series, or the next ES. Even more linear and less creative options. Whether it was console hardware limitations, or time limitations, Skyrim is lacking, and arguably has even less options and mechanics than Oblivion. In a lot of ways Oblivion (of all ES games!) is better. And then the mechanics and options of the games before that? Forget about it, Daggerfall and Morrowind had so much more. The only thing vanilla Skyrim has on previous ES games is graphics, and the animations that derive from it. On topic though, I think we all know about the beautiful Blackreach. I also like where some of the more obscure Stones are hidden, on ledges, in groves etc. Edited March 16, 2012 by Fortunado3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) I doubt Bethesda is dumbing the game down; they're making it more realistic. All the changes- the removal of incremental stats, the crafting additions, the dual wield, the real time dialogue, the unique spells, the bias-free marriage, the superfluous addition of dynamic weather, the addition of different armor versions rather than radically different styles of armor- it all feels like Bethesda is finally doing what they wanted to with TES, but never could before due to the primitive state of the medium. Bethesda is no longer trying to make old-school rpgs (for better or worse), they're making worlds and saying 'screw the stereotypes'. Edited March 16, 2012 by Rennn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimembrain Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 another argument started by the anti change gamers .. every game has some group of players that *censored* and moan of the slightest edit to the series .. most cant even explain exactly what features bother them... they say key topics like dumbing down and removing features without mentioning the new added features or what dumbing down means to them... sometimes these people are right .. but in this case its coming out as "blaaaahhhh.. remake morrowind again" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waller91 Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 I can completely agree with your statement, "Skyrim isnt complete." But I cant, however, agree that Skyrim was made for "newbs". Of course they made Skyrim for new players, Todd Howard said it himself.. They always try to create an Elder Scroll game as if you have never played the series before. This may seem a bit disloyal to the true fans of the series, but think about the other side of the coin ( oblivion reference ). Imagine you had played Skyrim without even being aware of the elder scrolls series. Would you have wanted Skyrim to be as ridiculously difficult as Dark Souls? They are somewhat obligated to appeal to new players, because that's how business works. I do see your point, and side with it to a degree. Just had to put in my two cents I suppose.. Sadly, I am stuck playing Skyrim on my Elite...As my laptop was not made by NASA, and cannot run Skyrim, or its Beautimus mods. :( I did, however, have Oblivion, along with about 7GB's in mods, So I can only imagine the mods at work on Skyrim.. I personally enjoy The Reach, as it reminds me of the land surrounded Rohan. Since a few of you have it for PC, might you mind posting a few screenshots of the modded lands? I would greatly enjoy/appreciate it, and im sure others who find this topic will as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver219 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Fortunado3, I have to agree about the mods, I would be sorely disappointed without them. Just took issue with the fact you took a shot at the players of the game and not who you are really upset with. I had to chuckle when I, as a player was lumped into newbs. I would venture to guess I was taking COBOL and FORTRAN classes at UM long before you had grasped spelling your own name, if you were even born then. Back then our games were text only for the most part, and the interaction was archaic to say the least. Maybe that has taught me patience vs. the need for instant gratification. There is a fix though, you could start your own company and do it better? By the way, very good point Rennn! .....And with that, I am off to the Florida Keys for a couple of weeks to delve into the adventures of the real world, and I am not bringing a computer along. Everyone have fun, and I can't wait to see what is out there in the form of mods when I get back. Kudos to all of you modders that take the time to make Skyrim a better gaming experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sader325 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) another argument started by the anti change gamers .. every game has some group of players that *censored* and moan of the slightest edit to the series .. most cant even explain exactly what features bother them... they say key topics like dumbing down and removing features without mentioning the new added features or what dumbing down means to them... sometimes these people are right .. but in this case its coming out as "blaaaahhhh.. remake morrowind again" Made by Nasa? WTF lol Asus G60JX-RBBX05 I got this laptop nearly 2 years ago for $1200 which included a 3 year warranty among other things. You can currently get this laptop for as low as $700, probably even less. This thing shat all over skyrim and the HD mods I throw at it, and I even play the game above the laptops native resolution (external monitor). Made by Nasa... pfft. Edited March 16, 2012 by Sader325 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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