Adipose Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Well, I can now download and play a version of Skyrim in which Windhelm has been thoroughly Nazified with apartheid thrown in. Surprised that the modder didn't turn the Gray Quarter into a walled ghetto. I've got to say that I'm tempted, if only so that I could play a Dark Elf or one of the beast races and whop up on the Stormcloaks. 'Course that would also mean throwing in my lot with the Empire and, gasp, the THALMOR. IMO, the Thalmor aren't much better than Ulfric and his bunch. Actually, it wouldn't be necessary to Nazify Windhelm. Just take medieval attitudes toward Jews, turn the Jews into Dunmer, throw in the Beast races(Argonian and Khajiit) as subhuman(unternenschen), make the restricted areas of the docks and the Gray Quarter into more thoroughly controlled ghettos, complete with actual walled barriers(docks already are...mostly) and you've got it. If you want, mod the church of Talos into a political organism that has as part of it's brief the scourging of all non-Nords and you've got a solid scenario. Ugly huh. Well, that was the wonderful Medieval Era for you...at least in a great part of Europe. Then, when the Europeans settled the Americas, they brought their attitudes with them. Equal opportunity cultural bias. Gotta love it...NOT! Add the Thalmor into the mix, with their attitudes, and you've got yourself a really acidic, culture destroying concoction. OR, you could beef up the role of the Thalmor even more and have them coming in as a large organized force intent on bending all of the Nords to their will. Large army laying siege to Windhelm and, once they've conquered it, destroying it in detail. Follow that with salting the earth around Windhelm and turning it into another Carthage. When I game, once I've got a decent following, I make it a point to challenge Thalmor on the roads. Too bad it's so tough to assassinate them in the cities without being seen by the guards. Besides, they've usually got good gear to loot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niborino9409 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 What? Is this about a mod or how you'd like the game to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fore Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Being a German myself I find it highly DISGUSTING to use Nazi vocabulary ("Unter...") in the title of this post. Don't you have any manners and decency? And respect for all those poor human beings that have been called by my misguided forefathers with that name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niborino9409 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 It would also help if you mention what mod you are talking about. This sounds more like a general rant to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adipose Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 What? Is this about a mod or how you'd like the game to be? Both, in a way. I think that the mod I'm referring to simply takes the base attitudes of the Stormcloaks and moves them a step further. In a way I think that the mod in question clarifies a fundamental problem that I have with Stormcloak attitudes. Well, not just Stormcloak attitudes, but Nord attitudes in general. They are racist, and there's no getting away from that. That's one reason why I rarely run a Nord character, and when I do I usually wind up being neutral or siding with the Foresworm...even though I dislike their association with Hagravens. So, yeah, the mod I'm talking about simply makes it easier for me to fight against the Stormcloaks since they'd be a lot easier to dislike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niborino9409 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Is the title the mod name in that case? I don't understand which mod this is about. Edited November 28, 2017 by Niborino9409 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adipose Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Being a German myself I find it highly DISGUSTING to use Nazi vocabulary ("Unter...") in the title of this post. Don't you have any manners and decency? And respect for all those poor human beings that have been called by my misguided forefathers with that name? Nope, not intentionally using it to denegrate the historical victims of Naziism. However, the term does an excellent job of bringing into focus Stormcloak, and Nord attitudes toward non-Nords. They are VERY prejudiced against the Argonians, and to a lesser degree against the Dunmer and the Khajiit. They don't like Elves in general, probably because they have faced centuries of conflict with them and the Thalmor are very easy to dislike anyhow. It's pretty obvious that the Nords of Windhelm see the Argonians as some kind of underclass, and, by extension, probably feel the same way toward Khajiit. So, untermenschen is an accurate term when applied to the Beast races...at least as far as Ulfirc and his Stormcloaks are concerned. My use of German vernacular in the title is intended to reflect the content of two mods that have previously shown up on the Nexus...one very recently and one back in 2012. Both mods are probably intended to satirize Naziism and Nord racial attitudes. If I used them in a game, it'd be in order to sharpen the focus on why I dislike the Stormcloaks and make it easier for me to make war upon them. Sorry if it offends, but I don't apologize for use of the term in the context I used it. You know, it's interesting that the Nords and the Thalmor are both very racist. Makes it really easy for me to beat up on both of them. In fact, I'm a bit surprised that the game has Dunmer and Argonians getting along so well given their history. Lots of blood spilled there on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adipose Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Is the title the mod name in that case? I don't understand which mod this is about. The mods being referred to are: Windhelm Apartheid by Salchimel Adolfric Stormhitler by The Ghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niborino9409 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Oh, that's dark. I'm surprised Ulfric isn't revamped as well. :ohmy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem99 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Sturmmantel and not Sturmcloak. Der Untermensch and not Der Untermenschen. You should take as much time for research about foreign languages as you do for your funny thoughts. Then this faux pas wouldn't have happened to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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