CTD in certain places, unsure why. Modded

[scottishbrewer]

I've been trying to troubleshoot my latest go-round with Modding my Skyrim SE, but this latest trouble I can't seem to figure out what is causing it. The problem right now is, after killing the Dragon and returning to Whiterun, I can only go so far into the City before it CTD. It's almost like there is an invisible line that if I cross that point it CTD. The crash points are halfway to the market square on the main road, or at the foot of the stairs leading up to Dragonsreach just to the left of the Gildergreen. I did some research and thought it might be that I was running too many mods and didn't have a bash patch, so I tried to do that but it didn't help. I also checked load order. I know I'm running quite a few mods here (103) so bear with me.

*Note* When I set up the Bash file I made sure that all checkmarks were green and that the master lists were ordered.

This is the list of mods straight from my LOOT

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 RaceCompatibility.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 SexLab.esm
8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
9 9 Campfire.esm
10 a Frostfall.esp
11 b RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
12 c Hunterborn.esp
13 d Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
14 e XPMSSE.esp
15 f RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
16 10 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
17 11 Cutting Room Floor.esp
18 12 FNIS.esp
19 13 timescale6.esp
20 14 KS Hairdo's.esp
21 15 Realistic Haircolors.esp
22 16 Beards.esp
23 17 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
24 18 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
26 1a CollegeofWinterholdUpgraded.esp
27 1b Honeyside.esp
28 1c Civil War Aftermath.esp
29 1d ResearchInSkyrim.esp
30 1e FertilityMode.esp
31 1f DW.esp
32 20 FlowerGirls SE.esp
33 21 No more Mario Sky v1.1.esp
34 22 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L2.esp
35 23 TrueStormsSE.esp
36 24 TSCoT.esp
37 25 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
38 26 Footprints.esp
39 27 Smoking Torches.esp
40 28 Well-Stocked Alchemists.esp
41 29 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
42 2a MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
43 2b Hunting in Skyrim.esp
44 2c marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
45 2d Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
46 2e EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
47 2f Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp
48 30 cowherdsofskyrim.esp
49 31 Cloaks.esp
50 32 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
51 33 LeatherBackpackStraps-100.esp
52 34 Immersive Patrols II.esp
53 35 ajd_dommorepotentialmarriagecands_sse_pc.esp
54 36 RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch.esp
55 37 SofiaFollower.esp
56 38 Provincial Courier Service.esp
57 39 1nivWICCloaks.esp
58 3a WetandCold.esp
59 3b FurSet by keung.esp
60 3c CraftableSkaalforFrostfall.esp
61 3d Ars Metallica.esp
62 3e DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
63 3f BloodHorkers.esp
64 40 Housecarls Have Lives.esp
65 41 Walk Like a Woman.esp
66 42 Freya.esp
67 43 Lilith_Follower.esp
68 44 Synea Bowmaiden.esp
69 45 Stormie.esp
70 46 RideWithMe.esp
71 47 Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp
72 48 ajd_moredawnguardmarriagecandidates_sse_pc.esp
73 49 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
74 4a mosoriftentower.esp
75 4b CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp
76 4c Viking's Longhouse.esp
77 4d PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
78 4e ajd_morthalghastlymine_sse_pc.esp
79 4f BooksOfSkyrim.esp
80 50 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
81 51 Freyja and Morrigan.esp
82 52 Mirielle Follower.esp
83 53 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
84 54 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
85 55 Serana.esp
86 56 Valerica.esp
87 57 HalfGiantRace.esp
88 58 Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp
89 59 RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp
90 5a HistoricalWeapons.esp
91 5b SkyUI_SE.esp
92 5c Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
93 5d Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp
94 5e Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp
95 5f ScrimshawExpanded.esp
96 60 Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp
97 61 Public Executions.esp
98 62 FollowerWander2.esp
99 63 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
100 64 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
101 65 Hunters Not Bandits.esp
102 66 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

[Shabdez]

Is that before or after you hear the Greybeards' shout? Maybe these CTD points would normally trigger the shout and something is wrong with the script or the sound file. You could try to check in SSEEdit if there is a conflict.

[scottishbrewer]

After. I thought it might be as well, but I've done a few runs to see and it didn't matter if I waited or not.

[gromulos]

I see you are using FNIS, please double check the description page as I "believe" FNIS is supposed to be loaded AFTER your bashed patch ( below it )

 

Other than that I don't see any possible issues with your load order.

[scottishbrewer]

So I went back to an older save and played through the Dragon fight again. And now it crashes with the the Greybeard's call. What exactly am I looking for in regards to cleaning and finding errors with SSEedit? I get the absolute basics of using SSEedit but I am by no means proficient.

*Edit 1:
I now think it has to do with the interior of Whiterun.

Edited December 16, 2017 by scottishbrewer

[scottishbrewer]

Right, it's confirmed to do with whiterun. Not sure where the conflict is. Here is a new list, I think I changed the order a little bit. So frustrated.

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 RaceCompatibility.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 SexLab.esm
8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
9 9 Campfire.esm
10 a Cutting Room Floor.esp
11 b Frostfall.esp
12 c RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
13 d Hunterborn.esp
14 e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
15 f XPMSSE.esp
16 10 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
17 11 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
18 12 timescale6.esp
19 13 KS Hairdo's.esp
20 14 Realistic Haircolors.esp
21 15 Beards.esp
22 16 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
23 17 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
24 18 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
25 19 CollegeofWinterholdUpgraded.esp
26 1a Honeyside.esp
27 1b Civil War Aftermath.esp
28 1c ResearchInSkyrim.esp
29 1d FertilityMode.esp
30 1e DW.esp
31 1f FlowerGirls SE.esp
32 20 No more Mario Sky v1.1.esp
33 21 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L2.esp
34 22 TrueStormsSE.esp
35 23 TSCoT.esp
36 24 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
37 25 Footprints.esp
38 26 Smoking Torches.esp
39 27 Well-Stocked Alchemists.esp
40 28 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
41 29 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
42 2a Hunting in Skyrim.esp
43 2b marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
44 2c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
45 2d EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
46 2e Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp
47 2f cowherdsofskyrim.esp
48 30 Cloaks.esp
49 31 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
50 32 LeatherBackpackStraps-100.esp
51 33 Immersive Patrols II.esp
52 34 ajd_dommorepotentialmarriagecands_sse_pc.esp
53 35 RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch.esp
54 36 SofiaFollower.esp
55 37 Provincial Courier Service.esp
56 38 1nivWICCloaks.esp
57 39 WetandCold.esp
58 3a FurSet by keung.esp
59 3b CraftableSkaalforFrostfall.esp
60 3c Ars Metallica.esp
61 3d DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
62 3e BloodHorkers.esp
63 3f Housecarls Have Lives.esp
64 40 Walk Like a Woman.esp
65 41 Freya.esp
66 42 Lilith_Follower.esp
67 43 Synea Bowmaiden.esp
68 44 Stormie.esp
69 45 RideWithMe.esp
70 46 Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp
71 47 ajd_moredawnguardmarriagecandidates_sse_pc.esp
72 48 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
73 49 mosoriftentower.esp
74 4a CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp
75 4b Viking's Longhouse.esp
76 4c PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
77 4d ajd_morthalghastlymine_sse_pc.esp
78 4e BooksOfSkyrim.esp
79 4f Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
80 50 Freyja and Morrigan.esp
81 51 Mirielle Follower.esp
82 52 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
83 53 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
84 54 Serana.esp
85 55 Valerica.esp
86 56 HalfGiantRace.esp
87 57 Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp
88 58 RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp
89 59 HistoricalWeapons.esp
90 5a SkyUI_SE.esp
91 5b Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
92 5c Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp
93 5d Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp
94 5e ScrimshawExpanded.esp
95 5f Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp
96 60 Public Executions.esp
97 61 FollowerWander2.esp
98 62 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
99 63 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
100 64 Hunters Not Bandits.esp
101 65 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
102 66 FNIS.esp

 

[gromulos]

Could you please explain what these mods are, what they are supposed to do

 

15 f XPMSSE.esp
18 12 timescale6.esp
22 16 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
30 1e DW.esp
32 20 No more Mario Sky v1.1.esp
35 23 TSCoT.esp

 

ALSO

 

these are wrong, swap them

 

5 5 RaceCompatibility.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

 

Nothing should ever be above the Unofficial patch except

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm

 

Unless the mod author of RaceCompatibility.esm has specifically stated otherwise, check the description page for any instructions he or she may have posted

Edited December 18, 2017 by gromulos

[scottishbrewer]

Could you please explain what these mods are, what they are supposed to do

 

15 f XPMSSE.esp (This is a skelleton mod, used for custom Animations)

18 12 timescale6.esp (This changes the in game timescale to 1:6)

22 16 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp (This is The People of Skyrim mod)

30 1e DW.esp (Dripping when Aroused mod)

32 20 No more Mario Sky v1.1.esp (Changes the skybox to a dimmer and more cloudy appearance)

35 23 TSCoT.esp (This is a compatability patch for True Storms and Climates of Tamriel)

 

ALSO

 

these are wrong, swap them

 

5 5 RaceCompatibility.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

(I didn't even catch that it had been bumped up, thanks!)

 

Nothing should ever be above the Unofficial patch except

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

 

Unless the mod author of RaceCompatibility.esm has specifically stated otherwise, check the description page for any instructions he or she may have posted

[scottishbrewer]

Well, I've PARTIALLY fixed the problem. I can continue playing now, although fast traveling directly to Whiterun causes a CTD and I do get random CTDs during gameplay. I had to uninstall and reinstall my SSE to get it to work right. I'm really thinking it's about time I broke down and learned how mods work, how scripting works, and how to make em all play nice haha.

[gromulos]

my guide would be a good start along with gophers tutorials

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/GophersVids

 

Just jump down to where it says "Beginners guide to modding Skyrim"

Edited December 18, 2017 by gromulos