scottishbrewer Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I've been trying to troubleshoot my latest go-round with Modding my Skyrim SE, but this latest trouble I can't seem to figure out what is causing it. The problem right now is, after killing the Dragon and returning to Whiterun, I can only go so far into the City before it CTD. It's almost like there is an invisible line that if I cross that point it CTD. The crash points are halfway to the market square on the main road, or at the foot of the stairs leading up to Dragonsreach just to the left of the Gildergreen. I did some research and thought it might be that I was running too many mods and didn't have a bash patch, so I tried to do that but it didn't help. I also checked load order. I know I'm running quite a few mods here (103) so bear with me. *Note* When I set up the Bash file I made sure that all checkmarks were green and that the master lists were ordered. This is the list of mods straight from my LOOT 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm5 5 RaceCompatibility.esm6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp7 7 SexLab.esm8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm9 9 Campfire.esm10 a Frostfall.esp11 b RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp12 c Hunterborn.esp13 d Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp14 e XPMSSE.esp15 f RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp16 10 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp17 11 Cutting Room Floor.esp18 12 FNIS.esp19 13 timescale6.esp20 14 KS Hairdo's.esp21 15 Realistic Haircolors.esp22 16 Beards.esp23 17 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp24 18 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp26 1a CollegeofWinterholdUpgraded.esp27 1b Honeyside.esp28 1c Civil War Aftermath.esp29 1d ResearchInSkyrim.esp30 1e FertilityMode.esp31 1f DW.esp32 20 FlowerGirls SE.esp33 21 No more Mario Sky v1.1.esp34 22 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L2.esp35 23 TrueStormsSE.esp36 24 TSCoT.esp37 25 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp38 26 Footprints.esp39 27 Smoking Torches.esp40 28 Well-Stocked Alchemists.esp41 29 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp42 2a MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp43 2b Hunting in Skyrim.esp44 2c marriagemod - alpha v3.esp45 2d Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp46 2e EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp47 2f Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp48 30 cowherdsofskyrim.esp49 31 Cloaks.esp50 32 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp51 33 LeatherBackpackStraps-100.esp52 34 Immersive Patrols II.esp53 35 ajd_dommorepotentialmarriagecands_sse_pc.esp54 36 RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch.esp55 37 SofiaFollower.esp56 38 Provincial Courier Service.esp57 39 1nivWICCloaks.esp58 3a WetandCold.esp59 3b FurSet by keung.esp60 3c CraftableSkaalforFrostfall.esp61 3d Ars Metallica.esp62 3e DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp63 3f BloodHorkers.esp64 40 Housecarls Have Lives.esp65 41 Walk Like a Woman.esp66 42 Freya.esp67 43 Lilith_Follower.esp68 44 Synea Bowmaiden.esp69 45 Stormie.esp70 46 RideWithMe.esp71 47 Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp72 48 ajd_moredawnguardmarriagecandidates_sse_pc.esp73 49 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp74 4a mosoriftentower.esp75 4b CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp76 4c Viking's Longhouse.esp77 4d PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp78 4e ajd_morthalghastlymine_sse_pc.esp79 4f BooksOfSkyrim.esp80 50 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp81 51 Freyja and Morrigan.esp82 52 Mirielle Follower.esp83 53 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp84 54 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp85 55 Serana.esp86 56 Valerica.esp87 57 HalfGiantRace.esp88 58 Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp89 59 RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp90 5a HistoricalWeapons.esp91 5b SkyUI_SE.esp92 5c Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp93 5d Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp94 5e Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp95 5f ScrimshawExpanded.esp96 60 Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp97 61 Public Executions.esp98 62 FollowerWander2.esp99 63 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp100 64 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp101 65 Hunters Not Bandits.esp102 66 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabdez Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Is that before or after you hear the Greybeards' shout? Maybe these CTD points would normally trigger the shout and something is wrong with the script or the sound file. You could try to check in SSEEdit if there is a conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishbrewer Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 After. I thought it might be as well, but I've done a few runs to see and it didn't matter if I waited or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I see you are using FNIS, please double check the description page as I "believe" FNIS is supposed to be loaded AFTER your bashed patch ( below it ) Other than that I don't see any possible issues with your load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishbrewer Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) So I went back to an older save and played through the Dragon fight again. And now it crashes with the the Greybeard's call. What exactly am I looking for in regards to cleaning and finding errors with SSEedit? I get the absolute basics of using SSEedit but I am by no means proficient.*Edit 1: I now think it has to do with the interior of Whiterun. Edited December 16, 2017 by scottishbrewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishbrewer Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Right, it's confirmed to do with whiterun. Not sure where the conflict is. Here is a new list, I think I changed the order a little bit. So frustrated. 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm5 5 RaceCompatibility.esm6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp7 7 SexLab.esm8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm9 9 Campfire.esm10 a Cutting Room Floor.esp11 b Frostfall.esp12 c RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp13 d Hunterborn.esp14 e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp15 f XPMSSE.esp16 10 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp17 11 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp18 12 timescale6.esp19 13 KS Hairdo's.esp20 14 Realistic Haircolors.esp21 15 Beards.esp22 16 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp23 17 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp24 18 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp25 19 CollegeofWinterholdUpgraded.esp26 1a Honeyside.esp27 1b Civil War Aftermath.esp28 1c ResearchInSkyrim.esp29 1d FertilityMode.esp30 1e DW.esp31 1f FlowerGirls SE.esp32 20 No more Mario Sky v1.1.esp33 21 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L2.esp34 22 TrueStormsSE.esp35 23 TSCoT.esp36 24 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp37 25 Footprints.esp38 26 Smoking Torches.esp39 27 Well-Stocked Alchemists.esp40 28 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp41 29 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp42 2a Hunting in Skyrim.esp43 2b marriagemod - alpha v3.esp44 2c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp45 2d EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp46 2e Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp47 2f cowherdsofskyrim.esp48 30 Cloaks.esp49 31 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp50 32 LeatherBackpackStraps-100.esp51 33 Immersive Patrols II.esp52 34 ajd_dommorepotentialmarriagecands_sse_pc.esp53 35 RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch.esp54 36 SofiaFollower.esp55 37 Provincial Courier Service.esp56 38 1nivWICCloaks.esp57 39 WetandCold.esp58 3a FurSet by keung.esp59 3b CraftableSkaalforFrostfall.esp60 3c Ars Metallica.esp61 3d DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp62 3e BloodHorkers.esp63 3f Housecarls Have Lives.esp64 40 Walk Like a Woman.esp65 41 Freya.esp66 42 Lilith_Follower.esp67 43 Synea Bowmaiden.esp68 44 Stormie.esp69 45 RideWithMe.esp70 46 Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp71 47 ajd_moredawnguardmarriagecandidates_sse_pc.esp72 48 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp73 49 mosoriftentower.esp74 4a CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp75 4b Viking's Longhouse.esp76 4c PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp77 4d ajd_morthalghastlymine_sse_pc.esp78 4e BooksOfSkyrim.esp79 4f Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp80 50 Freyja and Morrigan.esp81 51 Mirielle Follower.esp82 52 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp83 53 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp84 54 Serana.esp85 55 Valerica.esp86 56 HalfGiantRace.esp87 57 Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp88 58 RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp89 59 HistoricalWeapons.esp90 5a SkyUI_SE.esp91 5b Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp92 5c Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp93 5d Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp94 5e ScrimshawExpanded.esp95 5f Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp96 60 Public Executions.esp97 61 FollowerWander2.esp98 62 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp99 63 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp100 64 Hunters Not Bandits.esp101 65 Bashed Patch, 0.esp102 66 FNIS.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Could you please explain what these mods are, what they are supposed to do 15 f XPMSSE.esp18 12 timescale6.esp22 16 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp30 1e DW.esp32 20 No more Mario Sky v1.1.esp35 23 TSCoT.esp ALSO these are wrong, swap them 5 5 RaceCompatibility.esm6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Nothing should ever be above the Unofficial patch except 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm Unless the mod author of RaceCompatibility.esm has specifically stated otherwise, check the description page for any instructions he or she may have posted Edited December 18, 2017 by gromulos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishbrewer Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Could you please explain what these mods are, what they are supposed to do 15 f XPMSSE.esp (This is a skelleton mod, used for custom Animations)18 12 timescale6.esp (This changes the in game timescale to 1:6)22 16 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp (This is The People of Skyrim mod)30 1e DW.esp (Dripping when Aroused mod)32 20 No more Mario Sky v1.1.esp (Changes the skybox to a dimmer and more cloudy appearance)35 23 TSCoT.esp (This is a compatability patch for True Storms and Climates of Tamriel) ALSO these are wrong, swap them 5 5 RaceCompatibility.esm6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp(I didn't even catch that it had been bumped up, thanks!) Nothing should ever be above the Unofficial patch except 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm Unless the mod author of RaceCompatibility.esm has specifically stated otherwise, check the description page for any instructions he or she may have posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishbrewer Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Well, I've PARTIALLY fixed the problem. I can continue playing now, although fast traveling directly to Whiterun causes a CTD and I do get random CTDs during gameplay. I had to uninstall and reinstall my SSE to get it to work right. I'm really thinking it's about time I broke down and learned how mods work, how scripting works, and how to make em all play nice haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) my guide would be a good start along with gophers tutorials https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/ https://www.youtube.com/user/GophersVids Just jump down to where it says "Beginners guide to modding Skyrim" Edited December 18, 2017 by gromulos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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