SergeantGrrock Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Handofbane said: "Nobody can definitively say one way or the other what constitutes a "majority of PC gamers" Thank you. That was indeed the point of my rebutal to roboroller's comment. EnaiSiaion said: "Steam may not be good, but it is the biggest digital distribution platform. Do you prefer going out and buying game boxes?" Absolutely. Been doing it that way since Windows 3.1 and that's the way I like it. Brandy_123 said: " HooooaH " !!! Right on! I'm in full agreement with you (and many others here) on this issue. I know Steam isn't going away but I sure wish it was. Has it really caused me any major problems? Not that I'm aware of but I just don't like having a useless (to me) program forced on me. It's my friggin' money! Any games that use it in the future will be evaluated with scrutiny before I part with my hard earned cash for them. Finally, I get tired of people implying that if you're "anti" Steam you're "pro" piracy. Balderdash. If you want to go there I can raise the agruement that it's a question of freedom. Yes, I'm free to play Skyrim but I'm not free to play it without Steam, a program I did not want. (puts on dragonscale boxers of fire resistance) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spork542 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) I don't like Steam because it seems both authoritarian (yes, I really said that) and an example of poor software programming. It's supposed to allow you to choose whether or not to patch games, but either they just don't care about making that feature functional or they don't know how to. Either way, it's a problem. If software is malfunctioning, it needs to be fixed. The only reason why I let them get away with it in the case of Skyrim is because the only way around it is illegal and immoral. And guess what? I don't think they'll fix it. People will buy their games no matter how much Steam malfunctions like that. The patches, as many of you I'm sure are aware, often do more harm than good and the ability to conveniently tell this piece of trash software not to update games would be good, to say the least. They seem to build the software to be usable by the lazy and computer-illiterate, and by trying to make everything foolproof they make it impossible for those that are competent to do what they want to do with the software they legitimately bought. I'm computer literate and I can mostly get my games to work without some piece of trash software telling me what to do. I'm sure there are many who are in the same situation. So in conclusion, I'd prefer to get the game in a box, installing it from a DVD and using that to play. At least then I don't have Valve telling me they know my games better than I do and that they know better than I do what is best for my games. Edited March 23, 2012 by spork542 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Garon Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 As was stated on a previous topic, the smithing is realy messed up now. :rolleyes: ... Can't wait to see what they do to mess it up more trying to fix it, yes I am an eternal optimist :P Steam got me with the first update, now I only run it offline and have it firewalled "just in case". Steam is unbelievably intrusive; I have "Do not update" checked but that setting is ignored. I submitted that as a bug to Steam tech support, but they said that if a new update to Steam itself is available, it will download automatically regardless of the update setting. I can't even browse the mods because Steam will auto-update when I don't want it to. Steam will continue to exist because they have no responsibility to end-users. Their TOS and EULA accept no responsibility for anything, even if its their fault. All we can do is not buy games distributed via Valve/Steam. If the developers take a hit, maybe they will wake up and realize that no one wants to be forced to deal with a company which has no vested interest in the marketplace and no vested interest in the prisoners, er, customers, whom it "supports". Business is based upon transactions and mutual benefit/responsibility. Steam breaks that idea by imposing additional requirements and restrictions upon the transaction with the developer (I bought a Skyrim CD). If I had known about all the problems I would experience with Steam (servers down, LONG download times, inability to "wait and see" if updates have a bug, etc, etc), my perception of the "benefit" I would receive from Bethesda would have been considerably altered. I have to treat Steam like malware just to keep it from doing things I don't want it to. I bought a CD. I "registered" it online. Steam's DRM responsibility is complete. I have no further need of Steam. I bought a game to (try and) enjoy, not a life-long unneeded and unwanted relationship. Your job is done, Steam; GET OFF MY BACK. I will NEVER buy a Steam game again. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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