jeedge Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Form IDs for Skyrim, this page explains it much better than I ever could ;) http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Form_ID I plan on getting into actual mod making once the next ES title comes out someday, but for now - I don't plan to ever use the advanced features in TESEdit. I just use the basics and only for seeing what's conflicting with what so that I can possibly decide to manually move a mod down/up the load order, or remove a mod as the case may be. Uploader posted some good links on the SEedit page. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfskin75 Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 I am actually thinking of learning modding a making a couple. At least that's the plan. I really hope I can fix this. I really want to play my game.lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeedge Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I hear ya, just last night I just couldn't resist installing a couple more armor mods. Said UNP supported, should be alright? Started a new game and a mercenary (guessing part of notice board) ran by and she was naked! Very funny but that little feeling I get is, I gotta fix it. I tried the simple console disable >> enable command and that didn't do anything. I just had to install that armor mod even though I already had the huge immersive armors working just fine. There's the CK (Creation Kit) method I've heard of for fixing faces, but I've never tried it and it looks painful. From various posts, it sounds like it's had mostly successes from others that have done it - maybe an option for you? Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfskin75 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Right, i deactivated all my mods and I am restarting. When i get down I have to wait till the first town till I figure out if I messed up. Riverwood or bust. Edited January 12, 2018 by Wolfskin75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfskin75 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 I am sure there is a point were I am going to have to try Skse64 but I am waiting for beta and understand how to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeedge Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Hey there. I just installed Bijins All In One and I'm about to give it a try. I've been using Total Character Makeover, UNP body, CDP Physics, and FNIS with various animation mods for it - up till now, with no issues. Now that I've read the Bijin AIO installation instructions with fine detail, I thought about your initial mod list. I noticed you had some mods covered up? Regardless, that is NMM's mod list and not your load order. To really see your load order, could you re-send it? In NMM, your list represented in the "Plugins" tab is your actual load order.. On the left pane of the "Plugins" screen, there are two "paper" icons with a left and right arrow. Selecting the right arrow, you can export your load order to clipboard, then paste it into a message here. I typically (without quotes) use the spoiler tags then paste my load order inside the tags. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2228744-how-do-i-insert-a-spoiler-tag/ Per your graphic - Mods listed underneath the Mods tab is just a list of mods that you've installed or uninstalled - or not installed yet (the faded words). In your Mods graphic, I noticed you had at one time, installed Bijins All-In-One SE then at some point, uninstalled it (represented by the red slash circle next to the filename in NMM. Then I see where you (maybe did later?) installed the CBBE customizer for All in One. I look at the CBBE customizer author's page and his page is definittely lacking detailed instructions. My *gut* feeling is you went out of turn somewhere. Anywhooo, here is my current load order - I swear I'm not adding any more mods after this! (Sofia would say something here): GameMode=SkyrimSE Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1BSAssets.esm=1BSHeartland.esm=1BS_DLC_patch.esp=1Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1Falskaar.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1Worldofrudra.esm=1SexLab.esm=1Cutting Room Floor.esp=1SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1VividWeathersSE - Burma Patch.esp=1WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp=150 More Perk Points.esp=1Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp=1Celtic Music in Skyrim - Combat.esp=1Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE_Dungeon.esp=1NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp=1aessmeltdown.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1Footprints.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1Dragon Stalking Fix.esp=1MoreBanditCamps(SSE Explorer'sEdition).esp=1Beasts of Tamriel.esp=1DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1Joy of Perspective.esp=1DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp=1SkyUI_SE.esp=1SimplyKnock.esp=1Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp=1OBIS SE.esp=1Settlements Expanded SE.esp=1Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1skyBirds_SSE.esp=1MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp=1SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp=1Tes Arena Nimalten.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1TES Arena Amol.esp=1Settlements Expanded SE - Legendary Cities Patch - Modular.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1RiversideLodge.esp=1Inigo.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp=1VikingGuards.esp=1RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp=1Cassi.esp=1Immersive Followers.esp=1SofiaFollower.esp=1SkystoneCastle.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp=1LIAT - NPCs.esp=1Eli_RiverwoodShack.esp=1Recorder Follower Base.esp=1Elorya.esp=1TGBC.esp=1ElysiumEstateSSE.esp=1Rayeks_End_SSE_1.0.esp=1JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp=1XPMSSE.esp=1FNIS.esp=1SGEyebrows.esp=1UNP Vanilla Outfits.esp=1Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp=1Merta Assassin Armor.esp=1Tembtra Thief Armor.esp=1TERAArmorsSSE.esp=1TeraArmorSSE Level List LOOT.esp=1TeraArmorsSSE LOOT USSEP Patch.esp=1Book of UUNP - Textures.esp=1FNISSexyMove.esp=1Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp=1infiniteCharge.esp=1HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1JaxonzEnhGrab.esp=1archSaveHotKeySE-MCM.esp=1PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp=1EnchantX2.5.esp=1SE_crimereport.esp=1DaggerCraft.esp=1Dark Dagger.esp=1Northgirl.esp=1Animated Eating Redux.esp=1Realistic-Voice.esp=1Dodge Mod.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1FollowerWander2.esp=1Three fates follower mod.esp=1Levionte_Yennefer.esp=1Ice Mage Follower.esp=1Lela_Follower.esp=1MeseFollower.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1notice board.esp=1ForgottenCity.esp=1moonpath.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1SafeHouse.esp=1FCKagrenacsInstantFortress.esp=1Tundra Defense SSE.esp=1Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp=1Ish's Souls to Perks.esp=1OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp=1Mani Follower.esp=1RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp=1CH Bruma Patch.esp=1Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp=1BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV.esp=1Bijin Warmaidens.esp=0Bijin NPCs.esp=0Bijin Wives.esp=0Serana.esp=1Valerica.esp=1My Home Is Your Home.esp=1Open Cities Skyrim.esp=1Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp=1notice board - open cities patch.esp=1more idle markers.esp=1YASH2.esp=1LongerTradeSkillsbartercarrypotions.esp=1Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1JeffsTrainingMod.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1FlowerGirls SE.esp=1SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1AFT - USSEP Patch.esp=1RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp=1RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp=1RDO - USSEP Patch.esp=0Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 The zero after certain mods are mods that I left unticked in NMM per each author's directions. For Bijins All-In-One, the directions were very specific to leave Warmaidens, NPCs, Wives, esps unticked and only leave AIO ticked. As I mentioned earlier, I never tried this AIO cbbe customizer mod since I only use UNP body for every NPC but after looking at the AIO CBBE customizer page, I had big ?? marks on what the install directions should really be because his installation instructions were very general imo. Bijin Warmaidens.esp=0Bijin NPCs.esp=0Bijin Wives.esp=0 OK! rrambled on enough, about to fire my game up and see if I see any black faces. (Hopefully not) I'll be using an old save, and will run around/fast travel to a few of the big cities then report back tomorrow on my findings - successful or not. Edited January 12, 2018 by jeedge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeedge Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 So I fired up my newly added Bijins load and ran around Whiterun, Riverwood, and Riften and quickly saw the NPCs represented by Wives and NPCs were great - really awesome. But Uthgerd and Delphine had the black face bug so it looks like Bijin Warmaidens is giving me some trouble here! Going to bed in a couple minutes but this will get interesting tomorrow. You might have noticed I already had Total Character Makeover installed, and decided to not remove before installing the Bijin mods. Also, I'll fire up SSEdit and see what is conflicting with All In One Bijins then see if a manual load order change will fix it as a first step to troubleshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfskin75 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) What about Lydia? I reloaded everything, and I copied your Load list and I am going to try to see what I can add. If you are having trouble with the same thing if means it's not the all in one, and it's a problem with the Warmaiden mod. Which means I will want to add a replacement for it. here is what I got now. I got rid of the opening overhaul. I did something funky so I will go with Another life. but here you go. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Campfire.esm 7 7 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 8 8 RSkyrimChildren.esm 9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 10 a FNIS.esp 11 b Book Covers Skyrim.esp 12 c XPMSSE.esp 13 d DustEffectsSSE.esp 14 e adonnays elven warblade.esp 15 f no_combat_screams.esp 16 10 NoNakedComments.esp 17 11 No NPC Greetings.esp 18 12 More_Silver_Weapons.esp 19 13 Immersive Jewelry.esp 20 14 BlackthornManor.esp 21 15 Marriage_All.esp 22 16 female mannequins.esp 23 17 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 24 18 marriagemod - alpha v3.esp 25 19 Mors Feminine Females - All but orcs.esp 26 1a ForgeMenuCustomArmorType.esp 27 1b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 28 1c Holidays.esp 29 1d LightBladesArmor.esp 30 1e AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 31 1f DragonsKeep.esp 32 20 Run For Your Lives.esp 33 21 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 34 22 Immersive Patrols II.esp 35 23 Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp 36 24 Immersive Wenches.esp 37 25 ValkyrjaManor.esp 38 26 Skyshards.esp 39 27 Diverse Horses SE.esp 40 28 DoubleBedsAreForTwoPeople.esp 41 29 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 42 2a Convenient Horses.esp 43 2b SkyfallEstateBuildable.esp 44 2c LABikiniSSE.esp 45 2d LADX_SSE.esp 46 2e FalmerBikini.esp 47 2f Vivid WeathersSE.esp 48 30 Paper World Map.esp 49 31 EmbersHD.esp 50 32 HeavyStuddedCuirass.esp 51 33 RiverwoodBasement.esp 52 34 SkyDreamMaidens.esp 53 35 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 54 36 FNISspells.esp 55 37 IMAGINATOR SSE - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp 56 38 EldgammelArmorforDreamGirl.esp 57 39 ElvenArmoredCirclets.esp 58 3a HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 59 3b PaleBeauty.esp 60 3c Craftable Anvil and Smelter3DModels.esp 61 3d Campfire Shrines.esp 62 3e betterhearthstonemat.esp 63 3f Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp 64 40 TrueStormsSE.esp 65 41 Smoking Torches.esp 66 42 VanderolTattoos.esp 67 43 ForgeMenuCustomArmorType - USSEP.esp 68 44 Vivid Weathers & True Storms MCP.esp 69 45 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp 70 46 Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp 71 47 HentaiVoidArmor.esp 72 48 SkyrimRecycling.esp 73 49 NosPiercedEarsAll.esp 74 4a Divines Overhaul for SSE.esp 75 4b divineoverhaul+campfire.esp 76 4c Better Females - Eyebrows.esp 77 4d FaceSculptorsRacemenu.esp 78 4e Face Changer.esp 79 4f Circlets FTW Halved Armor Version.esp 80 50 Dr_Bandolier.esp 81 51 PBGearRings.esp 82 52 SexyVest.esp 83 53 Runed_Nordic_Weapons.esp 84 54 Unique Character.esp 85 55 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp 86 56 FaelCampingStuff.esp 87 57 RSChildren.esp 88 58 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 89 59 PortableContainers.esp 90 5a KS Hairdo's.esp 91 5b Northgirl.esp 92 5c Sakora's Make Up Kit - Natural Colors.esp 93 5d LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp 94 5e LeftHandRings.esp 95 5f AP Skyrim SE.esp 96 60 BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV.esp 97 61 DLC Shrines for Hearthfire Homes.esp 98 62 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 99 63 Bijin Wives.esp100 64 Bijin NPCs.esp101 65 Walk Like a Woman.esp102 66 AsharaSkyrimCharacterPresetsReplacer.esp103 67 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp104 68 Sakora's Make Up Kit - NC - Imperious Patch.esp105 69 Open Cities Skyrim.esp106 6a Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp107 6b Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp108 6c RealisticWaterTwo.esp109 6d Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp110 6e RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp111 6f RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp112 70 FlowerGirls SE.esp113 71 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp114 72 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp115 73 Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp116 74 FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp117 75 RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp118 76 FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp Edited January 12, 2018 by Wolfskin75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfskin75 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Okay. So I unloaded the warmadiens and they are ugly but not black face. I have unofficially determined that it is the bijin warmadiens mod. I love Ks hair but delphine and Lydia's replacement takes aphacii hair, not sure about the others, but please test a new game by unloading just Bijin warmadiens and see if you get similar results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeedge Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Your last post has me thinking about what I saw on Uthgerd especially. Yes, she had the black face but also I *think* her face graphic was the original - as you recall her vanilla face is a bit rough there so that might be a clue. I'm on the road today but good to hear that the black face went away for you by uninstalling warmaidens. I'm probably going to take different steps before-hand - thinking of looking at and adjusting load order first, followed by uninstalling and reinstalling warmaidens while keeping All In One installed, followed by manual copying of warmaiden files to overwrite whatever's there for each lady npc represented by the mod, ending it with doing the Creation Kit fix facegen method (which I did once on oldrim and it also worked). If at that point I still can't get it to work, I think I will uninstall All In One and the individual Bijin mods, just do separate re-installs of Wives and NPCs (without All in One), then look for individual replacers for the warmaidens cast. Will check in tonight with the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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