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Are there any mods that specifically fix the vanilla assault rifle? There is something clearly wrong with the one in the game. It is far too heavy for an assault rifle, and it does not even look like one. It looks more like a light, or even heavy machine gun. It certainly has the weight of a HMG!

 

I was hoping to find, a mod that rebalances both the weight, and scales back the damage so the basic assault rifle, is a light-weight, medium(ism) damage rifle again. Either specifically for that gun, or one that is includes a rebalance as part of a larger mod.

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Well, that works both ways. Since the 'assault rifle' isn't really an assault rifle, then converting to a MG is just the next best thing. Its not as if the game needs something called an 'assault' rifle anyhow. I am swimming in guns I can't give away and there are just too many guns as it stands. The combat rifle is so good as a general purpose rifle it leaves little for F4s poorly conceived assault rifles to do in any event.

 

I will give your mod a look, thanks!

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assualt rifle unmodded weight: 13 lbs

First "official" assault rifle in real history, stg 44: 11 lbs.
Everything seems fine to me. Even "light" assualt rifles by modern standards weigh 7-10 lbs. A m249 weighs 22 lbs, and an m2 browning weighs 130 lbs. I think fallout is realistic enough with weights, and you are the one who is wrong.....

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I use the Assault Rifle to Machine Gunl Mod by LongRoadAhead. All it does is rename the Assault Rifle Machine Gun. Doesn't seem like much, but if you use it along side R91 - Fallout 3 Assault Rifle by T41T3D and WastelandMelody's Chinese Assault Rifle and Heavy Machine Gun you end up with 2 actual assault rifles, a Submachine, Machine Gun and Heavy Machine Gun in game. The whole thing ends up very groovy.

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I use the Assault Rifle to Machine Gunl Mod by LongRoadAhead. All it does is rename the Assault Rifle Machine Gun. Doesn't seem like much, but if you use it along side R91 - Fallout 3 Assault Rifle by T41T3D and WastelandMelody's Chinese Assault Rifle and Heavy Machine Gun you end up with 2 actual assault rifles, a Submachine, Machine Gun and Heavy Machine Gun in game. The whole thing ends up very groovy.

is there a m2 mod variant with a realistic weight? The weight of this "hmg" is 30lbs, which just isnt realistic. For christ sakes, the ammo that goes into it is heavier than that without the weapon at all.....

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I use the Assault Rifle to Machine Gunl Mod by LongRoadAhead. All it does is rename the Assault Rifle Machine Gun. Doesn't seem like much, but if you use it along side R91 - Fallout 3 Assault Rifle by T41T3D and WastelandMelody's Chinese Assault Rifle and Heavy Machine Gun you end up with 2 actual assault rifles, a Submachine, Machine Gun and Heavy Machine Gun in game. The whole thing ends up very groovy.

is there a m2 mod variant with a realistic weight? The weight of this "hmg" is 30lbs, which just isnt realistic. For christ sakes, the ammo that goes into it is heavier than that without the weapon at all.....

 

Well, that weight is almost spot on for an M1919, too bad it's clearly based on the larger cousin.

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I use the Assault Rifle to Machine Gunl Mod by LongRoadAhead. All it does is rename the Assault Rifle Machine Gun. Doesn't seem like much, but if you use it along side R91 - Fallout 3 Assault Rifle by T41T3D and WastelandMelody's Chinese Assault Rifle and Heavy Machine Gun you end up with 2 actual assault rifles, a Submachine, Machine Gun and Heavy Machine Gun in game. The whole thing ends up very groovy.

is there a m2 mod variant with a realistic weight? The weight of this "hmg" is 30lbs, which just isnt realistic. For christ sakes, the ammo that goes into it is heavier than that without the weapon at all.....

 

You are about as rude as they get aren't you? Well if it bothers you that much, you can use FO4Edit to adjust the Weight and name as you please.

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I use the Assault Rifle to Machine Gunl Mod by LongRoadAhead. All it does is rename the Assault Rifle Machine Gun. Doesn't seem like much, but if you use it along side R91 - Fallout 3 Assault Rifle by T41T3D and WastelandMelody's Chinese Assault Rifle and Heavy Machine Gun you end up with 2 actual assault rifles, a Submachine, Machine Gun and Heavy Machine Gun in game. The whole thing ends up very groovy.

is there a m2 mod variant with a realistic weight? The weight of this "hmg" is 30lbs, which just isnt realistic. For christ sakes, the ammo that goes into it is heavier than that without the weapon at all.....

 

You are about as rude as they get aren't you? Well if it bothers you that much, you can use FO4Edit to adjust the Weight and name as you please.

 

Im not a modder, theres nothing rude about wanting realism (although i was rude when i called op wrong originally, but he was literally wrong, and lying for the sake of being nice is stupid), and i have never once opened fo4edit, i dont even really know what it is let alone how to use it. If its so f***ing easy, how is it so much work for me to ask someone who knows what they are doing to edit it, but OP asking exactly the same thing about reducing the assualt rifles weight isnt equally as unreasonable?
In short, f*** off snowflake, i give 0 shits about your opinion. Be right or be gone, i have no respect for people who are wrong for the sake of being nice. And even if i cared what other people think, you wouldnt be one of them

And for the record, the only "heavy machine gun" on record even close to said weights is the mg42, and its heavily debated in the gun community which definition of hmg is correct because of exactly this gun, 75ish% of the community think it should be an lmg, and 25ish think it should be an mmg or hmg. And even then, it weights 25 lbs UNLOADED, not 13lbs loaded. So OP's claim that the weapon weight of the AR is unrealistic is the most unrealistic thing about guns ive ever seen. But aside from that one heavily debated gun, there is not a single "hmg" in existence that weighs less than 120 lbs. The m2 browning is literally the lightest of them at 126lbs loaded. So you defending OP when im calling him arrogant makes you look stupid

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I use the Assault Rifle to Machine Gunl Mod by LongRoadAhead. All it does is rename the Assault Rifle Machine Gun. Doesn't seem like much, but if you use it along side R91 - Fallout 3 Assault Rifle by T41T3D and WastelandMelody's Chinese Assault Rifle and Heavy Machine Gun you end up with 2 actual assault rifles, a Submachine, Machine Gun and Heavy Machine Gun in game. The whole thing ends up very groovy.

is there a m2 mod variant with a realistic weight? The weight of this "hmg" is 30lbs, which just isnt realistic. For christ sakes, the ammo that goes into it is heavier than that without the weapon at all.....

 

You are about as rude as they get aren't you? Well if it bothers you that much, you can use FO4Edit to adjust the Weight and name as you please.

 

Im not a modder, theres nothing rude about wanting realism (although i was rude when i called op wrong originally, but he was literally wrong, and lying for the sake of being nice is stupid), and i have never once opened fo4edit, i dont even really know what it is let alone how to use it. If its so f***ing easy, how is it so much work for me to ask someone who knows what they are doing to edit it, but OP asking exactly the same thing about reducing the assualt rifles weight isnt equally as unreasonable?

In short, f*** off snowflake, i give 0 shits about your opinion. Be right or be gone, i have no respect for people who are wrong for the sake of being nice. And even if i cared what other people think, you wouldnt be one of them

And for the record, the only "heavy machine gun" on record even close to said weights is the mg42, and its heavily debated in the gun community which definition of hmg is correct because of exactly this gun, 75ish% of the community think it should be an lmg, and 25ish think it should be an mmg or hmg. And even then, it weights 25 lbs UNLOADED, not 13lbs loaded. So OP's claim that the weapon weight of the AR is unrealistic is the most unrealistic thing about guns ive ever seen. But aside from that one heavily debated gun, there is not a single "hmg" in existence that weighs less than 120 lbs. The m2 browning is literally the lightest of them at 126lbs loaded. So you defending OP when im calling him arrogant makes you look stupid

If you're not a modder why are you worried about the weight of a weapon added by a mod? Also if you really want realism you shouldn't be playing Fallout 4.

But in all seriousness, you should learn to use FO4Edit. Its an amazing tool and you don't need to be a Mod Author to use it. It took me literally less than 5 minutes to make my own plugin that converts the Heavy Machine Gun's weight to its 83lbs real world counter part. I even renamed M2 Browning. I could have shared it, but since you're so rude I'm not going to. I could have even just renamed it to Light Machine Gun.

Either way, good day sir.

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