Wander Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 My Oblivion suddenly stopped letting me load my saves, every time I say yes to load it, my Oblivion freezes. It always worked with the mods I had, so that isn't it. I have tried everything, I have un- and then reinstalled it 4 times! I couldn't do the shivering Isles patch so I deleted S.I. uninstalled Oblivion, defragged my hard drive, reinstalled it, kept S.I. off, patched it with the latest Oblivion patch, and the unofficial one. Still nothing, so I disabled ALL of my mods, except for Oblivion.esp of course, and still nothing! None of my saves want to work, so it isn't that the file is corrupted either, anyone wanna offer up some help please? I really need it! Thanks in Advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 My Oblivion suddenly stopped letting me load my saves, every time I say yes to load it, my Oblivion freezes. It always worked with the mods I had, so that isn't it. I have tried everything, I have un- and then reinstalled it 4 times! I couldn't do the shivering Isles patch so I deleted S.I. uninstalled Oblivion, defragged my hard drive, reinstalled it, kept S.I. off, patched it with the latest Oblivion patch, and the unofficial one. Still nothing, so I disabled ALL of my mods, except for Oblivion.esp of course, and still nothing! None of my saves want to work, so it isn't that the file is corrupted either, anyone wanna offer up some help please? I really need it! Thanks in Advance!Generally, when games are saved with mods loaded, it's best to keep them loaded. Saves crashing the game can often be because the save itself is corrupt, the save is for another game version, or because something critical to the save no longer exists (areas, races, active effects, worn equipment, significant changes to the nearby area). Whenever you reinstall, or make significant changes to your mod setup, you should begin a new game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wander Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Ok, I will try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wander Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 It will not allow me to do that either, even with only Oblivion.esm active! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wander Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Sorry, but bump, it helps if people actually READ the freaking help thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Reinstalling Oblivion does not really remove all of your old stuff. it leaves behind all of the stuff in your data file, and all of your old saves. If the problem is with either of those you will still have it. Here is my uninstall & reinstall from my help files on The Storm Raven Library: http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/index/ When you uninstall Oblivion it doesn't really uninstall everything. Then when you start adding mods before you have started the game, some things may not get initialized properly. Here is my recommended procedure for uninstalling and reinstalling. I would appreciate any feedback on this as it is something I expect to post often and I hate to give bogus or useless information. Reinstalling Oblivion My instructions assume you are using Windows XP and have installed Oblivion into the default location. If you are using Vista or Linux, the file locations may be different. If you do not have the original CD these instructions will not work. For a full reinstall, first you should try to preserve your mods and save games. The easiest way is to rename the data folder where your mods are stored C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data to something else such as \olddata. Then rename the folder that has your saved games and Oblivion.ini, C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\My Games\oblivion to something like \My games\Old Oblivion - this saves your saved games and the oblivion.ini file. Then, using the original CD, NOT the Launcher on your Hard drive. Select uninstall. After it completes the uninstall, reboot your computer - this is important as it allows Windows to remove some references to the original Oblivion. This would be a good time to do a file clean up and defragment your hard drive. Now, again using the original CD, reinstall Oblivion. Before adding any mods, patches or Shivering Isles, start the game and make a save. This initializes some stuff that needs to be initialized. Now, If you DO NOT use Shivering Isles, patch the game using ONLY the latest Oblivion patch. All of the stuff from the earlier patches is included. Be sure you use the proper language patch. If you use the wrong one it may work, but with a strange mixture of languages. (Germanglish?) Or it may crash. NOTE: there are two English Patches UK & US and they are different. (Some people actually think we speak the same language) Use the one that matches your original disk. If you use Shivering Isles, DO NOT install the Oblivion patch. Install Shivering Isles, then ONLY the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the updates for Oblivion are included. There is only one Shivering Isles patch for both US & UK English Now, again start the game and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks) Before adding any mods, back up both your \data folder and the save game folder. Copy them, don't move or rename them, to a different folder - such as \Bethesda\Clean Oblivion\data and \Bethesda\clean Oblivion\saves. These are your emergency back up files. do not rename them when you need to restore, copy them, then rename the copy. Note, Your Oblivion.ini file is in the same folder, but separate from, the save game folder. It will be replaced when you start the new versio for the first time and does not need to be copied over. Now, if you want to try it with your original saves & data, rename the \data folder to \newdata and the \oldata back to \data. this restores all of your mods. You should now have 2 data folders \data, and \newdata. Then rename the new My Games\Oblivion to something like \New Oblivion. and the \Old oblivion to \oblivion - this restores all of your saved games and your original Oblivion.ini file. If you have the same problem, it is most likely caused by a mod. However, you now have a clean install to fall back on. You can rename the files back to what they were and be back to your clean install without having to reinstall again. Sounds like lots of work, but you will have a clean install and a back up clean install when you are finished. Post your comments here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/236320/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wander Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Thank you very much! That is the most useful advice I have heard in a while! I will try that! Kudos for you! By the way, I am using Vista, but it is prettymuch the same! Thanks again Bben! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wander Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Still no dice, could it be a problem in my /Oblivion directory? The folder that contains data, what could go wrong in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wander Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Still no dice, could it be a problem in my /Oblivion directory? The folder that contains data, what could go wrong in there? That isn't it either, I tried clearing it. It is weird quoting yourself! Please help me! I have also noticed the Title Screen Music, doesn't play, even though it is just fine, and in the correct path. (Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\Music\Special) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Are you trying to load saves that were made before you reinstalled with no mods? That will not work because if the save was made with a mod, then if that mod changed something important in the game, it will not work. Saves made while SI was active will crash when you try to load them without SI. Many other complex mods will do the same. Try starting a new game and making a save, then try loading that save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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