Fallout 3 Crashing every few Minutes, Windows 10 Steam GOTY

[StrawberryKuro323]

A few months ago, I was able to play FO3 perfectly fine, with mods without constant crashing, or stuttering. I did have FPS drops near Germantown, and a few other places, but whatever, that was light weight.

But 4 months later, I can't play the game stable, with mods.

After trying time and time again, installing stability mod, patch after patch, worthless 3GB enabling (I have 64bit), I reinstalled it, and uninstalled every mod I had.

I'd like to add that I am well aware of the Steam guides to set the game up with/without mods, and I can tell you it's not working. I have a post on the 242nd page. My name is Straw. It has a few more details.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/22370/discussions/0/828937546147175081/?ctp=242

That being said, I just played the game again, for 30 minutes with stuttering, but no crashing, with no mods.

I'm fearful that the second I play with FOSE, It'll start crashing. So I have a few questions.

- Does FOSE cause crashing?

- As a 64 bit user, do I need 64 bit Fallout 3?

- I want to install MMM, FWE, and I know their load order. What about the random mods, like 2perkperlevel, or Sydney, Bittercup, and Lucy West stuff? Where would those go?

- BOSS isn't in an application for me, instead, it uses Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge, whatever it is, to use BOSS. this is REALLY confusing. Where did I go wrong?

- LOOT doesn't work for FO3, as there are just... terrible esp/esm managing with it for FO3. What do I do? Should I just slog through BOSS?

- Gopher's Videos don't have the fixes I need entirely, due to them being outdated. Any suggestions?

- Do I NEED to use FO3edit? I never used it before.

If any of these questions seem ignorant, or just annoying, I'm sorry. I've been trying since the 31st to just play with mods. Educate me, my friend.

As of right now, 2/5/2018, 5:00 PM central time (lol) I'm re-watching the gopher videos on FO3, and NV, since I'm trying to play every 3D game in order.

Any, and all help is very appreciated!

Edited February 5, 2018 by StrawberryKuro323

[M48A5]

 

- Does FOSE cause crashing? No. You game will crash if you try to use a FOSE dependent mod with the game installed in "Program Files". You should not have the game in "Program Files". There are instructions on STEAM that tell you how to move it.

- As a 64 bit user, do I need 64 bit Fallout 3? Doesn't exist.

- I want to install MMM, FWE, and I know their load order. What about the random mods, like 2perkperlevel, or Sydney, Bittercup, and Lucy West stuff? Where would those go? Use BOSS to sort.

- BOSS isn't in an application for me, instead, it uses Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge, whatever it is, to use BOSS. this is REALLY confusing. Where did I go wrong? Download and install.

- LOOT doesn't work for FO3, as there are just... terrible esp/esm managing with it for FO3. What do I do? Should I just slog through BOSS? Never use LOOT

- Gopher's Videos don't have the fixes I need entirely, due to them being outdated. Any suggestions?

- Do I NEED to use FO3edit? I never used it before. It can be helpful, however, you will need the FO3Edit Training Manual.

If any of these questions seem ignorant, or just annoying, I'm sorry. I've been trying since the 31st to just play with mods. Educate me, my friend.

As of right now, 2/5/2018, 5:00 PM central time (lol) I'm re-watching the gopher videos on FO3, and NV, since I'm trying to play every 3D game in order.

Any, and all help is very appreciated!

The last update to Windows 10 broke a some games and mods. You would need to run the game in compatibility mode. There are discussions in the FO3 and FNV forums that cover this.

[StrawberryKuro323]

 

 

- Does FOSE cause crashing? No. You game will crash if you try to use a FOSE dependent mod with the game installed in "Program Files". You should not have the game in "Program Files". There are instructions on STEAM that tell you how to move it.

- As a 64 bit user, do I need 64 bit Fallout 3? Doesn't exist.

- I want to install MMM, FWE, and I know their load order. What about the random mods, like 2perkperlevel, or Sydney, Bittercup, and Lucy West stuff? Where would those go? Use BOSS to sort.

- BOSS isn't in an application for me, instead, it uses Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge, whatever it is, to use BOSS. this is REALLY confusing. Where did I go wrong? Download and install.

- LOOT doesn't work for FO3, as there are just... terrible esp/esm managing with it for FO3. What do I do? Should I just slog through BOSS? Never use LOOT

- Gopher's Videos don't have the fixes I need entirely, due to them being outdated. Any suggestions?

- Do I NEED to use FO3edit? I never used it before. It can be helpful, however, you will need the FO3Edit Training Manual.

If any of these questions seem ignorant, or just annoying, I'm sorry. I've been trying since the 31st to just play with mods. Educate me, my friend.

As of right now, 2/5/2018, 5:00 PM central time (lol) I'm re-watching the gopher videos on FO3, and NV, since I'm trying to play every 3D game in order.

Any, and all help is very appreciated!

The last update to Windows 10 broke a some games and mods. You would need to run the game in compatibility mode. There are discussions in the FO3 and FNV forums that cover this.

I figured doing this would fix my problems, but it didn't.

At first, I figured the real problem might've been the Stutter Remover, as a few posts in the mod page complain about it, but that simply isn't the case.

I went to Arefu from Big Town with the FWE mod, Fellout, MMM, ect. So far, everything Gopher's told me about in his fourth video.

Whilst on route to Arefu the first time, I killed a few things, and I thought it was gonna be great. However, after I killed 2 wild dogs near the highway ramp to the settlement, I shot the last one, which resulted in a crash as the gun went off.

The second crash, was when I was rushing to Arefu, without stutter remover. This resulted in a crash after running to Evan King, going through every dialogue options that didn't make me sound like an a**hole, until I tried to back out of the conversation, which crashed the game before he even spoke. The next crash was after I installed the remaining patches for FWE, MMM, Project Beauty. I did the Doctor ALT Start from FWE, and it crashed after loading into the Rivet City Lab. I first, believed this to just be a one time thing. I was wrong, and happened again. I attempted to do the alt-start as a Vault-Dweller, and it happened again. I've disabled everything other than my 3 must have mods, Project Beauty, MMM, and FWE, and it STILL crashed upon loading in. Note, this isn't a crash upon loading into the game. I load into the shack, pick my background, special, name, race, disposition, and right after than I go toward the bed, and crash. I may see the capital wasteland load up a bit, or Rivet City's lab render a little, and then it crashes. Sometimes I never see the damn things at all, just a black screen. I'm not sure what exactly causes the crash in game. I loaded a save right before enetering the capital wasteland, and that loaded just fine... however upon exiting Vault 101, it led to a crash after giving me FWE starting items. Upon completely disabling FWE, it crashed after the level up outside of 101, with no items adding itself to my character...

 

Here's the load order...

0 0 Fallout3.esm

1 1 Anchorage.esm

2 2 BrokenSteel.esm

3 3 PointLookout.esm

4 4 ThePitt.esm

5 5 Zeta.esm

6 6 CRAFT.esm

7 7 CALIBR.esm

8 8 aHUD.esm

9 9 iHUD.esm

10 a FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

11 b Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

12 c Project Beauty.esm

13 d Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

RHKBrisaAlmodovar.esm

14 e DarNifiedUIF3.esp

15 f Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

16 10 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

Sprint Mod.esp

Dree Perks.esp

Distributed Necklaces and Chains - Males and Females.esp

DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp

2Perks Per Level.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

17 11 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

18 12 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

19 13 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

20 14 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

21 15 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

22 16 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

23 17 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

24 18 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

25 19 Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

26 1a Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

27 1b Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

28 1c Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

29 1d Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

30 1e Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

31 1f Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

32 20 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

Blackened FWE + MMM + Project Beauty.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

RHKBrisaAlmodovar - Custom - PB HD.esp

RHKBrisaAlmodovar - FWE.esp

RHKBrisaAlmodovar - DLC.esp

Edited February 6, 2018 by StrawberryKuro323

[kschang77]

You're not using the merged version of Mart's Mutant Mod. I don't see the patch to RC62 ?

 

(Search for "Paradox Ignition presents the Mergers")

 

Personally, I don't play with MMM, and I haven't had a crash in dozens of hours of playing. YMMV.

 

You're not using Fellout merged version either.

 

Come to think of it, you didn't notice there's a merged version of Project Beauty as well.

Edited February 6, 2018 by kschang77

[StrawberryKuro323]

 

You're not using the merged version of Mart's Mutant Mod. I don't see the patch to RC62 ?

 

(Search for "Paradox Ignition presents the Mergers")

 

Personally, I don't play with MMM, and I haven't had a crash in dozens of hours of playing. YMMV.

 

You're not using Fellout merged version either.

 

Come to think of it, you didn't notice there's a merged version of Project Beauty as well.

 

Okay, then. I'll run over those patches.

 

If I crash randomly again, I'll probably disable MMM. It's a gnarly mod, but I can go without it. Those floaters are f***ing creepy...

I do have the patch to RC62. I don't believe it puts a ESP or ESM there, at all, right?

Before I do anything I'm disabling MMM though, just to give it a try. Thanks for responding.

 

EDIT : I've downloaded those patches. Tell me if the Load Order is alright. Regardless of those patches, my game crashed in the loaded screen with the FWE alt start. It did so again, upon leaving vault 101 as I leveled up. I'm... really confused now. I think I'll do a fresh reinstall.

0 0 Fallout3.esm

1 1 Anchorage.esm

2 2 BrokenSteel.esm

3 3 PointLookout.esm

4 4 ThePitt.esm

5 5 Zeta.esm

6 6 CRAFT.esm

7 7 CALIBR.esm

8 8 aHUD.esm

9 9 iHUD.esm

10 a FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

11 b FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

12 c Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

13 d Project Beauty.esm

14 e Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

15 f RHKBrisaAlmodovar.esm

16 10 DarNifiedUIF3.esp

17 11 Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

18 12 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

19 13 Sprint Mod.esp

20 14 Distributed Necklaces and Chains - Males and Females.esp

21 15 DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp

22 16 2Perks Per Level.esp

23 17 Dree Perks.esp

24 18 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

25 19 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

26 1a FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

27 1b FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

28 1c FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

29 1d FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

30 1e FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

31 1f FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

32 20 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

33 21 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

34 22 UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp

35 23 WeaponModKits.esp

36 24 WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

37 25 WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

38 26 WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

39 27 WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

40 28 WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

41 29 WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

42 2a Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

43 2b Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

44 2c Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

45 2d Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

46 2e Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

47 2f Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

48 30 Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

49 31 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

50 32 Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

51 33 Blackened FWE + MMM + Project Beauty.esp

52 34 Fellout-Zeta.esp

53 35 Fellout-PointLookout.esp

54 36 Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

55 37 Fellout-Anchorage.esp

56 38 Fellout-pipboylight.esp

57 39 Fellout-Full.esp

58 3a RHKBrisaAlmodovar - Custom - PB HD.esp

59 3b RHKBrisaAlmodovar - FWE.esp

60 3c RHKBrisaAlmodovar - DLC.esp

61 3d FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.esp

62 3e Merged Patch.esp

Edited February 7, 2018 by StrawberryKuro323

[DragonMasterChief]

nvm