How Many Arrows is Enough?

[macmert]

Well if it is possible you can adjust the quantity and quality of arrows with the PC's armorer skill and archery skill... That way if a PC has high skills on those, he will end up with a lot of arrows, of course the material' s quantity will be important too, too much raw materials, many arrows...

 

I am telling all this since you said that your race will be making the arrows not summoning them... I suggest you look at item making of the game neverwinter nights 2 :D it might be a good reference...

 

Hope it helps...

[madman132]

The Number of Arrows may vary hugely from Player to Player.

There are People who will fire Arrow after Arrow, even under Water (where you have to be very close) or when in close combat. Others put their Bows away to use an enchanted Dagger for close combat.

Personally i like to make every Shot count. I like stealth Shots from far away, most of my Enemies die from a sneak bonus.

 

I made myself a nice Bow which has enough damage to kill level 45 Ogres with three sneak hits and Iron Arrows. The Level would be something to consider also, since higher level Creatures will need more Hits, even with enchanted Daedric Bows with enchanted Daedric Arrows...

 

 

I'd say its about 10-60 Arrows for one "Day", which i consider to be a Tour through some Dungeons or Wilderness until you are encumbered. Since my Character has a strentgh of 110 and is an Alteration master, that could take some Time.

 

You wont need to take much arrows with you if you venture somewhere with undead, Bandits, Marauders or Vampires. In most cases i end up carrying out more Arrows then i brought in...

 

If i need some Arrows i fast travel to a Bandit Camp. I kill the Bandit Bowman whos present most of the times. Enough Arrows for the Next Dungeon. If theres no Bowman at the Camp, well, there are enough Camps to stock up on Arrows.

I never bought Arrows. I dont mind kill Bandits from time to time. I do no run out on Arrows too often :D

 

I wouldnt need to "create" Arrows.

There is one Thing that Bugs me though; I have Piles over Piles of different Arrows stashed in a Chest in my House. Some of this Arrow, some of that Arrows, some of that. And even some Dremora Arrows because i freed Kvatch quite early.

 

Better than a Power to create Arrows, i'd like a Power to transmute Arrows. Iron and Steel Arrows are quite useless, so i would like to transmute them to at least Silver. Depending on the Marksmanskill, the Player could get better Arrows when using the Power. A Master Marksman could transform his Iron Arrows to Daedric Arrows.

 

A new Char finds some Iron Arrows and transmutes them to silver. Would be very nice but not over the Top. Maybe he cold make 20 Iron Arrows and 10 Steel Arrows into 30 Silver Arrows.

 

 

Enchanted Arrows wont be transformed. The Player may find the magic effect more usefull then the Damage and secondly it would make way to much Work to sort out every single enchanted Arrow from the Database o_O

[Leenysaurus]

I'm not sure how many arrows are enough because I seldom deal with archers, but with the mod "Arcane Archery" (http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10238) you never have to worry. You just summon 20 arrows of a chosen element when needed.

 

Also, Mart's Monster Mod's Hunting & Crafting plugin includes the option to fletch arrows out of materials found on enemies.

 

When I've played an archer in the past, I've always carried a large amount, usually around 150 arrows until I can purchase a new type. Then again, I only used archery in combat and never a secondary weapon.

 

I don't think you can ever know how many arrows is enough. I just suggest carrying more than needed to always be safe, but I'm no archery expert. Close combat's my thing. :thumbsup:

 

I haven't seen a mod that makes use of silver nuggets yet. I know Midas' Magic uses gold nuggets, but to my knowledge, not silver. Maybe someone should implement something to turn those silver nuggets into a special type of silver arrow, or use them with other materials to make different types of arrows with the same undead-killing effect of silver arrows?

 

That's a thought. Always bugs me that I can't do much more than sell silver nuggets.

[Sharkull]

How many arrows is enough each day?

Depends on the type of arrow (damage #), character level (monster difficulty), marksmanship skill (damage #), bow being used (damage #), stealth skill (bonus damage multiplier), alchemy skill (poison damage #)... as well as play style. If you're doing this for yourself, then do some testing and go from there. If this is mainly for public consumption then guess (and listen to feedback for tuning / updates), or release a few different versions with different #'s.

[tungol]

Good ideas.

I was interested in the bonecraft mod, though I haven't used it. But y'all's comments have got me thinking of something along those lines, non-race-related.

It might be cool to be able to make arrows out of found many materials. Bones & silver are pretty much the only normal things. But you might use minotaur horns or gemstones to make magic arrows. As for me, I normally use magic for ranged combat; thought it might be fun to try another style.

"Transmute arrows" has some merit. If the type of arrows you produce are adjusted for your level, you could add some high-powered arrows for when your level is so high even daedric can't kill with one shot. (I don't think anyone's done any retextured ammo have they?) The lack of 1-shot-1-kill power at higher levels is one of the things that turns me off from archery.

Also I was thinking of a leveled poison power (at the cost of health or something).

[MalachiDelacot]

When I've played an archer in the past, I've always carried a large amount, usually around 150 arrows until I can purchase a new type. Then again, I only used archery in combat and never a secondary weapon.

 

:wub: A person after my own heart. Bow and about 40-60 silver arrows is all my character carries.

Have weapons and other things in a portable hole for picture props, but don't use them as part of the game. Prefer to be a cheeta and not an elephant.

[Vagrant0]

Also depends on some game settings related to being able to find arrows in things you've killed, and if you bother to spend the time retirieving shots. It also depends on what people have their timescales set at, and how often they sleep. In some cases, all you need are about 20 or so, and you're good for a week, in others you may need a few hundred to last a day of running around killing stuff trying to raise marksman. You might just as well make it a lesser power, but add some unwanted side effects, like 1 second of damage agility or speed per cast. Then it's harder to exploit without gimping yourself in the long run. Can only use shrines to recover those stats once a day. Could even make the script add a disease (weakness) to the player if they use it too often.

[ApocalypticBiscuit]

dude, careful with that, since your making (without knowing) an infinite money cheat.

[Sypron]

How about your armorer skill IS the number of arrows you make, and your archery skill IS the quality. Of course, you wouldn't make 100 different qualities, but perhaps just 10 and you can make a new quality every 10 levels.

Then, at each level:

-Iron

-Steel

-Silver

-Dwarven

-Elven

-Glass

-Ebony

-Daedric

 

But thats only 8. You'll have to work out the other 2 yourself.

[tungol]

I like that idea, Sypron.

Something like that might be more of a birthsign, really, since logically archers of any race might be able to make arrows.

I wish I were any good at meshing, I'd make a manticore tail and pretend the arrows came from there.

But the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of retex'd arrows, for a couple things better than daedric.

 

Thanks for the warning, Apocalyptic. I'd thought of that, but if its a greater power its more like a daily wage at worst. Done as a LP and costing you health or something, that could be a cheat.

[Just occurred to me, how about selling your blood for those blood potions the vampires are always raving about?]