hoofhearted4 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) The only thing is that Intel can't make good chipsets the x79 is a joke, no USB3.0 and just two sata6 ports. they need to improve their chipsets. uhhh....im confused? i dont there there is a (new) board out there without USB3.0 on it. and most boards have 4 SATA 6 GB/s ports....unless your talking about a board directly manufactured by intel, that you would get in a $500 rig from Best Buy?lol thats exactly what I was going to say.. well that cant be it, cause this Intel board has both USB 3.0 and SATA 6GB/s...though this board wouldnt be available in a $500 Best Buy rig, so it makes me think pathi is talking about one of those rigs :P Edited April 10, 2012 by hoofhearted4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan3345 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 ehh, I hate the way intel puts those cheesy symbols on their boards.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik005 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 There is a difference between the chipset usb3 ports and those provided by 3rd party chips, AMD has all sata3 ports and usb3 in the chipsets itself. The sandy bridge chipsets only have two native sata3 ports an no usb3 Usb3 and extra sata3 ports are available through bad preforming marvell or renesas chips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan3345 Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Where are you getting that? I have also heard from a few people of the trouble of MARVEL chips, but my disk drive is attached to a MARVEL sata and I have not had any problems. The people having issues are only 1-5% of the intel users. An whats this about no usb3? My asus board and many other boards I have seen beg to differ. Where are you getting this information? Edited April 14, 2012 by Dan3345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik005 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The marvell chips won't give problems but they don't get the sata3 performance and when badly implemented by the motherboard manufacturer they don't even get sata 2 performance. They are good for regular harddrives but not for ssd's And of course other motherboards have usb3 ports but they have to be added by extra chips which cost money The marvell and usb3 chips and the PLX chip on my motherboard make it easily 40$ more. The problem is the processor doesn't have enough bandwidth to operate more than two add-on chips at the same time so in socket 1156 motherboards you can have either usb3 or sata6 at full speed at the same time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155 The real problem is that Intel is a major supporter of the organisations behind USB and SATA but is slow to actually put them in a chipset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan3345 Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Ok I think I see what you are saying. But here the thing, unless you are doing some extremely demanding video editing or something like that I can't anyone actually noticing the lower bandwith and having an issue. I play very intense games and I don't have an issue. But then again games aren't constantly loading from the HDD. I'm not trying to sound snotty but are you also saying if I were to get an SSD and plug it into the MARVEL or one of my sata6 it wouldn't perform as fast as it should? Is this because the boards Z68 chipset can't handle it or because the i5 doesn't have the bus speeds for it? Also rather than start a new topic I am asking this here. My asus motherboard came with a 5.25 inch bay which has two extra usb 3.0 slots on it. I know how to plug it into the motherboard but the problem is the header is being used alreadymy cases USB3.0. So is there some sort of splitter or pci card I can get that can add another usb3.0 header so I can have both or do I have to choose between one or the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik005 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Yes a marvel port preforms less than the native ports, but you can use them perfectly with regular hdd's because they don't even use the full bandwidth of sata2. With ssd's this becomes a problem as some already fill the sata3 bandwith Plugging an ssd in the marvel controller is not a good idea but this is mainly because it lacks trim support. You can buy pcie x1 expansion cards with the internal usb3 header, I have a Silverstone card myself. http://vr-zone.com/cebit/silverstone-shows-off-range-of-usb-3.0-accessories-at-cebit/15177.html Edited April 14, 2012 by Erik005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan3345 Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Is this what you are talking about? It looks like it has the header for the full usb3.0 connector but will it really run the usb3.0 at full speed and not interfere with any other usb devices or usb 2.0? If so I will buy two, one for my computer and one for my dads. The logic being for him is that he has no usb 3.0 but would like it and if I can achieve usb 3.0 for him it would really make him happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik005 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) I've got that model and it works great. For your dad's pc you would have to get an extra bay with usb3 ports, but I remember a pci-e card with 3.5inch bay combo Edited April 15, 2012 by Erik005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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