Unwelcome comments

[Jodi79]

what i'm proposing is not to cancel comments, that is quite useless, but make possible to prevent someone to do them.

if someone is trolling you, is useless cancel what he wrote if he could continue to send you message, and often i see people trolling without making nothing to be banned (extreme measure).

 

An example could be people continuing asking update, pretending them aggressively, making costant criticism: to be rude there's no need to be manifestly rude.

 

And if someone found some person's comments undesiderable, i think he has the right to prevent them, even if the reason were incomprehensible to the others or debatable.

 

this site live thanks to the modders, and i think it has to protect them (or better, gave them the possibility to protect themselves), even the most "sensible" one.

 

regarding the speech right, there is the forum: i'm talking about the comment in the mod's section.. that is public but also, in some way, private, because there the author has to read about bugs, endorsement, suggestion, even criticism yes, but if he doesn't want to listen someone, he should have the possibility to do it.

 

Think about the phone: if someone call you everyday, and you don't want listen him, law protect yourself, not his speech right...

Edited April 7, 2012 by Jodi79

[Fonger]

what i'm proposing is not to cancel comments, that is quite useless, but make possible to prevent someone to do them. ... snip

this is exactly covered under

 

"report"

 

 

but the change you suggest

 

is covered under

 

"ZOMG what ever happened to free speech"

(and the billlion posts that follow it on the same topic)

[yota71]

I just think where the trolling end ad start the "stalking"? a lot of modders have ceased to create mods because of the troll of the haters and of the envious

[Fonger]

I just think where the trolling end ad start the "stalking"? a lot of modders have ceased to create mods because of the troll of the haters and of the envious

actually the better the modder is

 

the more trolls they attract (may be an exponential relationship)

 

and no matter how vigilant the moderators are . . .

 

eventually the trolls whittle the author's nerves away until they have to flee for self preservation

 

or even worse

 

the trolls get the author to do something that gets them banned (has happened)

[Jodi79]

free to speech in a public place is right, but comment section is more as a phone or an email: my number could be on the public register but this doesn't mean that someone can call me anytime he like. And so the mail: i could have it on the net for various reasons, but this does not mean that whoever can send my everyday a tons of mail, in this case i can put him between the spam.

 

as i said right to speech is not duty to listen, and the authors has to be free to go in the comment section of their mods without reading comments of people who they found detestable.If someone found me detestable, i can't argue my right of speech to continue talking with him.

Edited April 7, 2012 by Jodi79

[Jodi79]

report and banning work after(and just for some reasons, often the troll doesn't make nothing to be banned), what i propose is a prevention.

 

and really i don't see speech's right problem (this is not a journal, a work place.. if it were a public place even banning should be forbidden.

Edited April 7, 2012 by Jodi79

[bben46]

The Nexus forums are a private forum. Free speech does not apply. We can and do ban for expressing an opinion if it is hurtful to another - see rules on flaming & trolling. We do remove posts if the post is bad enough. But we prefer to leave it - possibly annotated by a moderator to show why they were banned. When you see one you will know it. :thumbsup:

 

Look for the orange edit added onto the post for a moderator's comment. We do not hide and the moderator who did it will be identified. - Either by name or initials. Mine will always have Bben46 so the troll will know exactly who got him.

 

Usually by the time we see it the mod author has already seen it too. So removing it doesn't really serve any purpose.

However, showing that it got the poster banned, and why, does serve as a warning to those who can take a hint. :whistling:

 

Bben46

[monsto]

[snip]. . .then consider how the banned people would react to

 

"censorship" and the loss of "free speech"

 

suspect this alone would double the workload on the moderators

 

(BTW strangely enough, I rather like the suggestion - just think the trouble it would stir up would be exponential over time)

 

It's been my experience that the topics of censorship and free speech are only brought up by people that have been smacked by the baseball bat of the "benevolent dictatorship" that governs most all websites. This nor any website has a constitution nor "rights" for it's members. bottom line is that we post here at the pleasure of the owners and moderators.

 

TBPH, I applaud a mod/admin staff that will take a stand in a reasonable and consistent way and unceremoniously kick those that deserving it. Not just people that break the rules, but those that skate the edge. They're the ones that holler "injustice!" after they've been asked to pull it back a notch. Heads on pikes are an excellent deterrent.

 

The problem is that this kind of leadership requires the individual to be self-aware and the entire staff be vigilant with each other... because eventually, personal vendettas tend to deteriorate the individual and reason ceases to be the foundation. I was a member of a forum where an individual posted a number of very good video editing and technical procedure tutorials. He was banned for what seemed a triviality to the rest of us. Of course he wasn't ok with that, but in the end all he wanted to do was access his account to retrieve some draft-saved tutorials and be on his way. Reasonable would have been to let the man get the text somehow (get it from the db and mail it, allow him a one time access, etc). . . but staff hid behind the rules "once you're banned, you're banned." . . . so a person that was a great contributor, became not just inactive, but a full-on enemy... because mods couldn't just be reasonable.

 

If there was a constitution for the internet, I think the First Amendment would be "Just don't be a dick" and that would clear up 99.99% of the problems on both user and staff sides.