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Hello,
I'm trying to find out why my framerate is around 15-20 when going into Boston. I looked up all the technical issues online and Google and nothing works. Interesting though if I iron sight my weapon my frame rate goes up to 30 fps and when using a sniper scope it jumps to 55+ fps. I tried downloading boardless, lowering setting, but the problem still presist My specs are the following:

1080 TI
i7 4790k
16 DDR3 Ram
SSD
My mod list is the following:
0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
2 2 Snap'n Build.esm
3 3 Thematic and Practical.esp
4 4 SettlementKeywords.esm
5 5 HUDFramework.esm
6 6 FFO.esm
7 7 Arbitration - Resources.esm
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 Firelance2.5.esp
10 a SimSettlements.esm
11 b AmmoType223Caliber.esm
12 c DLCRobot.esm
13 d DLCworkshop01.esm
14 e DLCCoast.esm
15 f DLCworkshop02.esm
16 10 DLCworkshop03.esm
17 11 DLCNukaWorld.esm
18 12 DependencyQuestFix.esp
19 13 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
20 14 Swinging Meat Bags.esp
21 15 BulbWire.esp
22 16 Canopies.esp
23 17 CleanSettlement.esp
24 18 CREAtiveClutter.esp
25 19 Crimsomrider's Immersive Market.esp
26 1a Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp
27 1b DD_1x1_Foundation_Blocks.esp
28 1c DD_All_the_COncrete.esp
29 1d dinomore.esp
30 1e dinoshelf.esp
31 1f dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp
32 20 dinoshelf_retex.esp
33 21 EferasBetterBeds.esp
34 22 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
35 23 FilledDinerCounters.esp
36 24 FunctionalDisplays.esp
37 25 IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp
38 26 infinite_settlement_budget.esp
39 27 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
40 28 LooksMirror.esp
41 29 ManufacturingExtended.esp
42 2a ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp
43 2b MsRae_BinsOStuff.esp
44 2c Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp
45 2d OCDecorator.esp
46 2e OCDispenser.esp
47 2f OCDecoratorDLC.esp
48 30 RealTroughs.esp
49 31 RepairSanctuary.esp
50 32 SettlementPrivacy.esp
51 33 Snappable Covenant Walls.esp
52 34 SolarPower.esp
53 35 SWG.esp
54 36 Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp
55 37 VerticalConduits.esp
56 38 Wall Oil Lamps.esp
57 39 EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp
58 3a SettlementMenuManager.esp
59 3b No Borders.esp
60 3c AllSetsExtended.esp
61 3d Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
62 3e Scrap Everything - Core.esp
63 3f ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
64 40 FFO.esp
65 41 FemsheppingsDiamondSquareLoft.esp
66 42 WorkshopRearranged.esp
67 43 BalconySupports.esp
68 44 UnbogusFallout.esp
69 45 Better Workshop Street Oil Lamps - Shadows.esp
70 46 MoreShipments_10.esp
71 47 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
72 48 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
73 49 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
74 4a ImmersiveVendors.esp
75 4b Vendor_Registers.esp
76 4c Passthrough.esp
77 4d woodysWastelandStuff.esp
78 4e ScrapDeadThings.esp
79 4f ASEFarHarbor.esp
80 50 Decal Stain Remover REDUX - All DLC.esp
81 51 WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp
82 52 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
83 53 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
84 54 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
85 55 LegendaryModification.esp
86 56 OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
87 57 OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
88 58 OWR_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
89 59 DWT_Cricket_and_Guards.esp
90 5a OWR2_CraftableDecor.esp
91 5b OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
92 5c OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW_SKPatch.esp
93 5d OWR2_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
94 5e NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp
95 5f PortableRecycler.esp
96 60 PWR.esp
97 61 PWR'.esp
98 62 PWR_SKE.esp
99 63 Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp
100 64 dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp
101 65 SimSettlements_VIS.esp
102 66 DV-No Levelled Vertibirds.esp
103 67 detailedferalghouls.esp
104 68 Edit_Hancock.esp
105 69 VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp
106 6a dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
107 6b ProvisionerUniform.esp
108 6c MMP4APA-blue.esp
109 6d GaussRifleMk2.esp
110 6e tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp
111 6f GaussRifleMk2 - tAE - AWKCR.esp
112 70 LuckyYouPerk.esp
113 71 Eli_Display Shelves.esp
114 72 TrueReporter.esp
115 73 BTInteriors_Project.esp
116 74 nuka_world_settlements.esp
117 75 NukaVimRack.esp
118 76 ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
119 77 3DNPC_FO4.esp
120 78 Enhanced Flickering Firelight.esp
121 79 ThicketSettlement.esp
122 7a Armorsmith Extended.esp
123 7b brotherhood of steel overhaul.esp
124 7c InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp
125 7d UnbogusFalloutVIS.esp
126 7e Better Cooking Stations.esp
127 7f ShipmentSize_25.esp
128 80 Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp
129 81 RaiderOverhaul.esp
130 82 MK_Agony.esp
131 83 MK_Agony_VIS Patch.esp
132 84 FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
133 85 Northland Diggers New.esp
134 86 FissionBattery.esp
135 87 SOTS.esp
136 88 BTInt_Optimization.esp
137 89 AtomCatsSettlement.esp
138 8a nvvault1080.esp
139 8b CrimeTown.esp
140 8c ImmersiveScrapping.esp
141 8d RPHSettlement.esp
142 8e Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
143 8f LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
144 90 DV-Deadly Vertibirds.esp
145 91 WeaponsHD.esp
146 92 America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp
147 93 MoreAGOMBz.esp
148 94 OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
149 95 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
150 96 BetterJunkFences.esp
151 97 Custom Concrete with Glass.esp
152 98 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
153 99 My_Minutemen.esp
154 9a MoreAGOMBz_CP_ASE_ASEFH.esp
155 9b AA FusionCityRising.esp
156 9c AnotherLife.esp
157 9d DCEnhancedSecurity.esp
158 9e SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
159 9f MaxwellsWorl.esp
160 a0 Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
161 a1 Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
162 a2 Vivid Weathers - Natural Bright.esp
163 a3 Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
164 a4 Vivid Waters.esp
165 a5 Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp
166 a6 DarkerNights.esp
167 a7 DarkerNightsDetection.esp
168 a8 DarkerNights-Radiant.esp
169 a9 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
170 aa UniqueUniques.esp
171 ab MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
172 ac Firelance2.5Patches.esp
173 ad Mercenary.esp
174 ae Minuteman Watchtowers.esp
175 af powerarmort49.esp
176 b0 B84sThemedResidentials.esp
177 b1 DOOMMerged.esp
178 b2 G36Complex.esp
179 b3 TrailerParkDreams.esp
180 b4 ellen.esp
181 b5 LimaOutpost.esp
182 b6 BetterShackBridges.esp
183 b7 BetterStores.esp
184 b8 llamaCompanionHeather.esp
185 b9 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
186 ba AkaWaterWorld.esp
187 bb WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp
188 bc home_improvement_all.esp
189 bd WVSimSAddon.esp
190 be Kraggles - Structures.esp
191 bf IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp
192 c0 PCDugWedges.esp
193 c1 SimHomestead.esp
194 c2 WV2_SimSAddon.esp
195 c3 BS-FarHarborExpansion.esp
196 c4 CWSS Redux.esp
197 c5 BetterSettlers.esp
198 c6 BS-FunctionalDisplaysPatch.esp
199 c7 Prefabs.esp
200 c8 SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
201 c9 Ambient Wasteland.esp
202 ca BetterCompanions.esp
203 cb G36 add-ons.esp
204 cc Campsite.esp
205 cd DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
206 ce Boonie Hats.esp
207 cf EAMR.esp
208 d0 JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp
209 d1 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
210 d2 CBBE.esp
211 d3 Ai Tweak.esp
212 d4 Not Your Average Neon.esp
213 d5 NoTwigs.esp
214 d6 Power_Armors_Redone.esp
215 d7 WDP-PC.esp
216 d8 Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp
217 d9 DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
218 da CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
219 db CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
220 dc 10mmSMG.esp
221 dd BOUNTIESFORYOU.esp
222 de SalvageBeacons.esp
223 df OWR.esp
224 e0 OWR_AOC.esp
225 e1 OWR_OWT.esp
226 e2 OWR2.esp
227 e3 OWR2_SKEPatch.esp
228 e4 rpampas.esp
229 e5 ScavengedMercGear.esp
230 e6 TTOutfit.esp
231 e7 Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
232 e8 LightSupportWeapon.esp
233 e9 Quick Save.esp
234 ea EasyHacking.esp
235 eb EasyLockpicking.esp
236 ec FAR.esp
237 ed Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
238 ee TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp
239 ef TNR Shoulder Lamp - Alternate Slot.esp
240 f0 TNR Shoulder Lamp - Settings.esp
241 f1 Immersive HUD.esp
242 f2 SSNPC - DCResidentsAIO.esp
243 f3 SK_Leaders1.esp
244 f4 AffinityGainTriple.esp
245 f5 NoNegativeAffinityVanilla.esp
246 f6 Immersive Movement.esp
247 f7 Pack Attack NPC.esp
248 f8 V's Scavver Art.esp
249 f9 Bozar.esp
250 fa Eli_Accessories.esp
251 fb Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
252 fc SimSettlements_LeaderPack_EllenTheCartographer_Patch.esp
253 fd PowerLinePhysics.esp
254 fe SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp
Thanks in advance

 

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That area is hard on many systems. I have a FPS between 45-55 depending on the exact area.

I can't tell if this is your load order, but if it is then it is really messed up. All the DLCs should be above the Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch. Try using LOOT so sort the load order, but I have found it dose not all ways place mods in there correct order. There are also several helpful threads to get it set right.

 

Some mods do affect the area more than other's, but I don't know most of what you have.

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Hi There,
Thanks for the response. I use loot, and the order is hwo you say it is. When I copied over a batch for some reason thats what it gave me

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 Snap'n Build.esm
9 9 Thematic and Practical.esp
10 a SettlementKeywords.esm
11 b HUDFramework.esm
12 c FFO.esm
13 d Arbitration - Resources.esm
14 e ArmorKeywords.esm
15 f Firelance2.5.esp
16 10 SimSettlements.esm
17 11 AmmoType223Caliber.esm
18 12 DependencyQuestFix.esp
19 13 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
20 14 Swinging Meat Bags.esp
21 15 BulbWire.esp
22 16 Canopies.esp
23 17 CleanSettlement.esp
24 18 CREAtiveClutter.esp
25 19 Crimsomrider's Immersive Market.esp
26 1a Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp
27 1b DD_1x1_Foundation_Blocks.esp
28 1c DD_All_the_COncrete.esp
29 1d dinomore.esp
30 1e dinoshelf.esp
31 1f dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp
32 20 dinoshelf_retex.esp
33 21 EferasBetterBeds.esp
34 22 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
35 23 FilledDinerCounters.esp
36 24 FunctionalDisplays.esp
37 25 IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp
38 26 infinite_settlement_budget.esp
39 27 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
40 28 LooksMirror.esp
41 29 ManufacturingExtended.esp
42 2a ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp
43 2b MsRae_BinsOStuff.esp
44 2c Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp
45 2d OCDecorator.esp
46 2e OCDispenser.esp
47 2f OCDecoratorDLC.esp
48 30 RealTroughs.esp
49 31 RepairSanctuary.esp
50 32 SettlementPrivacy.esp
51 33 Snappable Covenant Walls.esp
52 34 SolarPower.esp
53 35 SWG.esp
54 36 Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp
55 37 VerticalConduits.esp
56 38 Wall Oil Lamps.esp
57 39 EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp
58 3a SettlementMenuManager.esp
59 3b No Borders.esp
60 3c AllSetsExtended.esp
61 3d Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
62 3e Scrap Everything - Core.esp
63 3f ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
64 40 FFO.esp
65 41 FemsheppingsDiamondSquareLoft.esp
66 42 WorkshopRearranged.esp
67 43 BalconySupports.esp
68 44 UnbogusFallout.esp
69 45 Better Workshop Street Oil Lamps - Shadows.esp
70 46 MoreShipments_10.esp
71 47 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
72 48 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
73 49 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
74 4a ImmersiveVendors.esp
75 4b Vendor_Registers.esp
76 4c Passthrough.esp
77 4d woodysWastelandStuff.esp
78 4e ScrapDeadThings.esp
79 4f ASEFarHarbor.esp
80 50 Decal Stain Remover REDUX - All DLC.esp
81 51 WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp
82 52 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
83 53 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
84 54 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
85 55 LegendaryModification.esp
86 56 OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
87 57 OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
88 58 OWR_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
89 59 DWT_Cricket_and_Guards.esp
90 5a OWR2_CraftableDecor.esp
91 5b OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
92 5c OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW_SKPatch.esp
93 5d OWR2_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
94 5e NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp
95 5f PortableRecycler.esp
96 60 PWR.esp
97 61 PWR'.esp
98 62 PWR_SKE.esp
99 63 Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp
100 64 dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp
101 65 SimSettlements_VIS.esp
102 66 DV-No Levelled Vertibirds.esp
103 67 detailedferalghouls.esp
104 68 Edit_Hancock.esp
105 69 VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp
106 6a dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
107 6b ProvisionerUniform.esp
108 6c MMP4APA-blue.esp
109 6d GaussRifleMk2.esp
110 6e tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp
111 6f GaussRifleMk2 - tAE - AWKCR.esp
112 70 LuckyYouPerk.esp
113 71 Eli_Display Shelves.esp
114 72 TrueReporter.esp
115 73 BTInteriors_Project.esp
116 74 nuka_world_settlements.esp
117 75 NukaVimRack.esp
118 76 ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
119 77 3DNPC_FO4.esp
120 78 Enhanced Flickering Firelight.esp
121 79 ThicketSettlement.esp
122 7a Armorsmith Extended.esp
123 7b brotherhood of steel overhaul.esp
124 7c InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp
125 7d UnbogusFalloutVIS.esp
126 7e Better Cooking Stations.esp
127 7f ShipmentSize_25.esp
128 80 Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp
129 81 RaiderOverhaul.esp
130 82 MK_Agony.esp
131 83 MK_Agony_VIS Patch.esp
132 84 FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
133 85 Northland Diggers New.esp
134 86 FissionBattery.esp
135 87 SOTS.esp
136 88 BTInt_Optimization.esp
137 89 AtomCatsSettlement.esp
138 8a nvvault1080.esp
139 8b CrimeTown.esp
140 8c ImmersiveScrapping.esp
141 8d RPHSettlement.esp
142 8e Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
143 8f LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
144 90 DV-Deadly Vertibirds.esp
145 91 WeaponsHD.esp
146 92 America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp
147 93 MoreAGOMBz.esp
148 94 OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
149 95 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
150 96 BetterJunkFences.esp
151 97 Custom Concrete with Glass.esp
152 98 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
153 99 My_Minutemen.esp
154 9a MoreAGOMBz_CP_ASE_ASEFH.esp
155 9b AA FusionCityRising.esp
156 9c AnotherLife.esp
157 9d DCEnhancedSecurity.esp
158 9e SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
159 9f MaxwellsWorl.esp
160 a0 Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
161 a1 Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
162 a2 Vivid Weathers - Natural Bright.esp
163 a3 Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
164 a4 Vivid Waters.esp
165 a5 Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp
166 a6 DarkerNights.esp
167 a7 DarkerNightsDetection.esp
168 a8 DarkerNights-Radiant.esp
169 a9 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
170 aa UniqueUniques.esp
171 ab MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
172 ac Firelance2.5Patches.esp
173 ad Mercenary.esp
174 ae Minuteman Watchtowers.esp
175 af powerarmort49.esp
176 b0 B84sThemedResidentials.esp
177 b1 DOOMMerged.esp
178 b2 G36Complex.esp
179 b3 TrailerParkDreams.esp
180 b4 ellen.esp
181 b5 LimaOutpost.esp
182 b6 BetterShackBridges.esp
183 b7 BetterStores.esp
184 b8 llamaCompanionHeather.esp
185 b9 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
186 ba AkaWaterWorld.esp
187 bb WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp
188 bc home_improvement_all.esp
189 bd WVSimSAddon.esp
190 be Kraggles - Structures.esp
191 bf IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp
192 c0 PCDugWedges.esp
193 c1 SimHomestead.esp
194 c2 WV2_SimSAddon.esp
195 c3 BS-FarHarborExpansion.esp
196 c4 CWSS Redux.esp
197 c5 BetterSettlers.esp
198 c6 BS-FunctionalDisplaysPatch.esp
199 c7 Prefabs.esp
200 c8 SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
201 c9 Ambient Wasteland.esp
202 ca BetterCompanions.esp
203 cb G36 add-ons.esp
204 cc Campsite.esp
205 cd DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
206 ce Boonie Hats.esp
207 cf EAMR.esp
208 d0 JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp
209 d1 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
210 d2 CBBE.esp
211 d3 Ai Tweak.esp
212 d4 Not Your Average Neon.esp
213 d5 NoTwigs.esp
214 d6 Power_Armors_Redone.esp
215 d7 WDP-PC.esp
216 d8 Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp
217 d9 DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
218 da CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
219 db CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
220 dc 10mmSMG.esp
221 dd BOUNTIESFORYOU.esp
222 de SalvageBeacons.esp
223 df OWR.esp
224 e0 OWR_AOC.esp
225 e1 OWR_OWT.esp
226 e2 OWR2.esp
227 e3 OWR2_SKEPatch.esp
228 e4 rpampas.esp
229 e5 ScavengedMercGear.esp
230 e6 TTOutfit.esp
231 e7 Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
232 e8 LightSupportWeapon.esp
233 e9 Quick Save.esp
234 ea EasyHacking.esp
235 eb EasyLockpicking.esp
236 ec FAR.esp
237 ed Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
238 ee TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp
239 ef TNR Shoulder Lamp - Alternate Slot.esp
240 f0 TNR Shoulder Lamp - Settings.esp
241 f1 Immersive HUD.esp
242 f2 SSNPC - DCResidentsAIO.esp
243 f3 SK_Leaders1.esp
244 f4 AffinityGainTriple.esp
245 f5 NoNegativeAffinityVanilla.esp
246 f6 Immersive Movement.esp
247 f7 Pack Attack NPC.esp
248 f8 V's Scavver Art.esp
249 f9 Bozar.esp
250 fa Eli_Accessories.esp
251 fb Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
252 fc SimSettlements_LeaderPack_EllenTheCartographer_Patch.esp
253 fd PowerLinePhysics.esp
254 fe SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp

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I don't know what they are putting in the updates, but 4 months ago I hardly ever went below 60, now no mods, fresh install, and when I get XP for finding a new location it's at least 5 mins. late. In the middle of nowhere I get 50 average. and 60 sometimes. I'm guessing all the CC stuff needs more resources from the GPU or It's just some more code problems. I started this Game almost a year ago and had NO, NO problems. 20 updates later...

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I use Sim Settlements, and scrap everything, and have no major issues with my FPS. Only in settlements that get to large. The .ini edit for scrap everything can cause an FPS hit.

I don't use scrap dead.

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Regarding your load order : Scrap Everything must be loaded at the bottom ... however, I am not saying that is the cause of fps in Boston. You have a full list ( 254 mods ), Boston is known to drops fps regardless of how good your rig is, but definitely, the more mods you have, the more things you are loading while in the city which is known ( as I said ) to be a complicated place in fallout 4 ....

 

... if Scrap Everything is a known mod that causes fps drops, is unknown to me ... in my own experience with that mod, I never had any problem and it is in my load order, an essential mod.

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