scrivener07 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Im loving my non-thief/assassin ranger character. Use poisons! Maybe your just having trouble RPing the character because I havent had any identity issues with mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokking56 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Also theres the complete downgrade of the Ranger style class in Skyrim. Sure you're good at Bows, for as much good as that does you because everything you shoot, if it survives your initial shot, is going to run straight at you or straight away from you anyways, so much for being able to slow down targets by shooting them in the legs. So the ranger style of class has literally been slid into a support/secondary aspect class of the Warrior class. Because if you're using a bow, it stands to reason that you're going to need a sword pretty damn soon after, so....the Ranger has actually been downgraded to simply a warrior who can shoot a bow, and not a Ranger who wields a bow with the deadliness of any warrior on the field. Or, the "Ranger" through combination of Bow+Light Armor+Sneak, gets shifted towards an assassin style of play, rather than that place in the middle where the Ranger is supposed to be, not an assassin, not a warrior...but a Ranger. Also then if you look at warriors all by themselves you have a choice. Are you a heavy armor or light armor warrior? Do you use two handed, one handed or dual wield weapons...but, hey, we forgot to tell you that without a shield you can pretty much expect to get burnt to a crisp by dragons and you're not a jedi so your two handed sword can't knock arrows out of the air while they're in flight and oh....btw if you're dual wielding, don't expect to block at all even though you've got two weapons and you can block just fine with one...oh wait sorry its because we ran out of console controller buttons to add a DW Block so DW could use the normal block key, our bad. In the end, if I want to play as a healer, why do I have to be a poncy fabric wearing mage? Lydia's quite a good warrior, she can definitely use a good healer, why can't I be the atypical mace and shield, plate wearing cleric? Oh yeah its cause I can't cast spells while using either...which is retarded. pr0; While I partially agree with your points, the Ranger has been slightly shifted towards being an Assassin. Yet with a few sneak and archery perks that's not really all that bad. On my first un-modded playthrough I played as a Ranger with magic skills, not quite a Spellsword or Cleric, so any enemies that did not die out right and rushed me were burnt to a crisp before they could touch me. As for the problem of having to reequip a shield I don't even carry one that's what my magic is for; so I don't feel the same frustration as you at not being able to cast magic while holding a shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucMan55 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Things skyrim forgot: That athletic characters can run faster than non-athletic characters....... Not everyone wants to be Achilles, the super studious mage...... Miyagi say, best defense no get hit. Athletic chars dodge better than non athletic chars...... Edited April 19, 2012 by BucMan55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorwynKelm Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Fatigue. Hunger. Wounds and the notion that swimming through iceberg-filled waters in a loin cloth is not going to be productive. ...to name a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incensement Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 You forgot the fact that you get eaten by fishes because you can't do anything while in water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCompany Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 That it's a fantasy world. Its own fantasy world, to be more exact. Skyrim - like its predecessor - forgot that its supposed to transport us to another world. Not our backyard or Norway or Scandinavia. Not Tolkien's world; not "generic land" or even New Zealand, as nice as that trip would likely be. Skyrim forgot that its a fantasy world. Bethesda forgot to use imagination in building and crafting and tweaking that world. Too many real-world inspired pieces of architecture; too many historical references/inspirations. Too much from our own world. I loved Shivering Isles not so much for the narrative - it was good, but predictable in the end - as for the characters and most especially, the setting. The Isle was a character all its own; the dichotomy of Sheo's mind made real. The flora, the fauna - all imaginary. All Fantastical. Going into the Shivering Isles was like taking a trip down the rabbit hole: nothing was as it seemed, nothing was recognizable; everything was from "elsewhere." Skyrim - and even Cyrodiil - lack that feeling of a fantasy realm. Throwing some off-white bricks around my backyward and playing dress up/pretend does not a fantasy setting make. Skyrim the world is beautiful in much the same way the rocky mountains or I suspect Norway or Finland is beautiful. Its beautiful in large part because its familiar. I don't know about you, but I don't play fantasy games to become immersed in "the familiar." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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