SirDanest Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) If you knew you were going to be playing against a real person in Caravan, one who was good at the game, what would you put in your deck? Assume no knowledge of what the other player's deck might look like, other than that this will be a veteran human player who knows the game well. I think it's possible to make new caravan decks for npcs and if I manage to do this, I'm going to try to make a master caravan player who can actually put up a bigger challenge than is typical in the Mojave. Advice from "I have the best deck" people sounds like a good idea, then. :smile:I have googled a lot and apparently a deck of just 10's and 6's does really well against the AI much of the time, but I'm not sure it would always work as well against a wily human player, so a npc deck of 10's and 6's will probably not suffice for my theoretical caravan champion npc. Edited March 12, 2018 by SirDanest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioactivelad Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 If you're okay with being a total bastard, having lots of Kings and Jacks will really screw up anyone's strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirDanest Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) I suppose the AI wouldn't use a deck like that correctly... Edited March 12, 2018 by SirDanest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbeast88 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 10's, 9's, 7's, 6's, 5's, Kings, & Jacks. Standard AI seems to be able to play Jacks and Kings well enough. Johnson Nash might be the toughest vanilla AI player and I don't think I have seen him use Queens or Jokers against me, Maybe the AI just doesn't play those two cards right. However that Caravan AI overhaul mod (I think someone made one) might fix the AI to be tougher unsure never tested, it is just not enough caravan players in the wasteland and no mod that I know of places a radiant caravan styled poker tournament location to make playing really worth while. Edited March 13, 2018 by kingbeast88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirDanest Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) Sierra Madre on the strip creates all kinds of generic caravan players sitting around, so it got me thinking that westside could probably have a caravan club/bar/low-key card-game casino or something. The lore specifically states that the strip doesn't do caravan. and freeside is sort of chaotic and poor. A cover charge or entry fee to the caravan casino could explain how the casino still manages to make money, I suppose. It's certainly done with Magic the Gathering clubs/tournaments, and MTG surely doesn't need the top vegas casinos to support it. :wink: If the card club had snacks or drinks that are uncommon among rest of the vendors that could be an additional draw; I'll have to look at the drinks and see if there's something already there that isn't commonly for sale. Edit: Barstool games mod for fallout 4 is demonstrating the ability to add card games into a fallout game that was never meant to have them. So I still hold out some ridiculous hope that some genius dedicated modder will add poker to New Vegas someday. Probably not. But maybe. Modders have done super-ambitious incredible things before, so we'll see I guess. Edited March 12, 2018 by SirDanest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioactivelad Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I suppose the AI wouldn't use a deck like that correctly... Nah, they do. A little overly aggressively, but the Caravan playing NPC I created for my recent Mod can be a real pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YanL Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) I suppose the AI wouldn't use a deck like that correctly... Nah, they do. A little overly aggressively, but the Caravan playing NPC I created for my recent Mod can be a real pain. send the link please, caravan is a really fun game, once you actually learn how to play the damn thing. Edited March 15, 2018 by YanL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirDanest Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 I suppose the AI wouldn't use a deck like that correctly... Nah, they do. A little overly aggressively, but the Caravan playing NPC I created for my recent Mod can be a real pain. So does this npc have a unique deck and/or caravan ai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YanL Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I suppose the AI wouldn't use a deck like that correctly... Nah, they do. A little overly aggressively, but the Caravan playing NPC I created for my recent Mod can be a real pain. So does this npc have a unique deck and/or caravan ai? I maybe be wrong, but even the based game is that way. For example, I always have dificult to beat that guy in Primm, he rox at caravan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirDanest Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 The internet seems to be full of people claiming that caravan is far, far too easy; broken-level easy. If they're not bluffing, then there's a foolproof strategy that is almost brainless in its implementation. If that's so, I'd sure love to see an npc using that same foolproof strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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