Strange CTD in Whiterun

[dndln]

Hello there,

 

I recently got back into Skyrim with following Nordic's Mod Guide. Now I have played for a few hours and just exited Dragonsreach after speaking with the Jarl.

 

However, for some reason, my Game does a quiet CTD everytime I get near the Bannered Mare. I figured out that it may have to do with Danica Pure-Spring, because the CTD normally occurs when she gets into my FOV for a little bit. So I think it has to do with some NPC mod, but I just can't seem to find which one is causing the crash, especially because every other NPC seems to work fine. I've also tried to reinstall several mods from which I though that may be connected but it didn't help. Papyrus logs also don't show anything.

 

Maybe some of you might have an idea? :smile:

 

My Load Order:

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
arnima.esm=1
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm=1
TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1
Quest Conflict Fixes.esp=1
FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp=1
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
XPMSSE.esp=1
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1
Forgotten DungeonsSSE.esp=1
ApotheosisDemo.esp=1
GrandPaladinSE.esp=1
TerrainLodRedone.esp=1
ForgottenCity.esp=1
Ars Metallica.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
ClassicClasses.esp=1
Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp=1
CCB_AndromedaPatch.esp=1
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1
Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1
OBIS SE.esp=1
OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp=1
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1
Lupinus.esp=1
MTSE_Lupinus_Patch.esp=1
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp=1
Rebalanced Encounter Zones.esp=1
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1
Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp=1
SlightlyFasterHorses.esp=1
KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp=1
BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp=1
Obsidian Weathers.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp=1
dD-No Screen Blood.esp=1
Animal Tweaks.esp=1
MajesticMountains.esp=1
MajesticMountains_Moss.esp=1
S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp=1
Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp=1
Reach Mugwort and Thistle.esp=1
Tundra Quagmire.esp=1
Unique Flowers & Plants.esp=1
Real Roads.esp=1
Weathered Road Signs.esp=1
Weathered Road Signs - CRF.esp=1
ImprovedRoads.esp=1
SkyrimSewers.esp=1
Blues Skyrim.esp=1
JK's Riverwood.esp=1
T'Skyrim Riverwood.esp=1
Dragon Bridge.esp=1
DragonbridgeVendorsAndBlacksmith.esp=1
Rorikstead Revised.esp=1
Ivarstead.esp=1
Dawnstar.esp=1
DarkwaterKeep.esp=1
Karthwasten - Let The Silver Flow.esp=1
Skaal Village.esp=1
Settlements Expanded SE.esp=1
Settlements Expanded SE - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Gavrostead.esp=1
Overstead.esp=1
NewAmberguard.esp=1
Keld-Nar.esp=1
Distinct Interiors.esp=1
Northern Marsh Bridges SE.esp=1
Man Those Borders!.esp=1
Whitewatch Tower.esp=1
TacticalValtheim.esp=1
HoldBorderBanners.esp=1
Laundry.esp=1
notice board.esp=1
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp=1
WhiterunHoldForest.esp=1
BOSFelhammerForge.esp=1
ValkyrjaEstate.esp=1
Eli_Routa - Non-Stormcloak.esp=1
ElysiumEstate.esp=1
Gavrostead_WhiterunHoldForest_Patch.esp=1
CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp=1
DustEffectsSSE.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
CollegeStudents.esp=1
TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp=1
TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp=1
SolstheimMerchantsInWhiterun.esp=1
WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp=1
Potions.esp=1
Potions Patch.esp=1
BottlesOfSkyrim.esp=1
EnneadSeptims.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1
Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp=1
Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp=1
EmbersHD.esp=1
Cloaks&Capes.esp=1
LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp=1
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1
skyforgedWeapons.esp=1
draugrweap_repl_en.esp=1
KS Hairdo's.esp=1
babes combined.esp=1
Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp=1
Realistic HaircolorsPale.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
Player Blink Fix.esp=1
SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp=1
Hubbies.esp=1
The Ordinary Women.esp=1
Bijin Warmaidens.esp=0
Bijin Wives.esp=0
Bijin NPCs.esp=0
Bijin AIO.esp=1
IB - All-in-One.esp=1
SRX_ImperialFemaleFace.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Tribunal Robes for SSE.esp=1
TKAA.esp=1
Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp=1
Gavrostead TKAA Patch.esp=1
Settlements Expanded SE TKAA Patch.esp=1
ForgottenCity TKAA Patch.esp=1
SkyrimBounties.esp=1
SkyrimBounties TKAA Patch.esp=1
WondersofWeather.esp=1
LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp=1
Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp=1
TrueStormsSE.esp=1
True Storms - Obsidian Weathers - Patch .esp=1
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Obsidian Weathers Patch.esp=1
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - True Storms Patch.esp=1
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp=1
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Enhanced Blood Patch.esp=1
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp=1
VioLens SE.esp=1
Disable Combat Boundary.esp=1
Realistic Melee Range.esp=1
SparklesSE.esp=1
Haladoonsbugs.esp=1
Believable Crime Report Radius.esp=1
Optional Starting Spells.esp=1
Race Scale Remover.esp=1
sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1
No NPC Greetings.esp=1
Fixed body collision.esp=1
Realistic-Voice.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp=1
0Kaidan.esp=1
SofiaFollower.esp=1
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1
EMHearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp=1
No More Standing Too Close SSE 1-0.esp=1
SimpleOutfitManager.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
RWT Lod Fix.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp=1
Alternate Start LAL TKAA Patch.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp=1
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp=0
RDO - iAFT Patch.esp=1
RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp=1
ELE_SSE.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
OrcFemaleFixUSSEP.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1
FNIS_PCEA2.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE.esp=1

SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1
TKDodge.esp=1
JaxonzRenamer.esp=1

 

 

Here's the SKSE-Crashdump analysis:

 

Crash Dump Analysis provided by OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc. (http://www.osr.com)
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Windows 8 Version 16299 MP (8 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: SingleUserTS Personal
kernel32.dll version: 10.0.16299.0 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Machine Name:
Debug session time: Mon Mar 19 10:43:16.000 2018 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: not available
Process Uptime: 0 days 0:04:46.000
Kernel time: 0 days 0:01:55.000
User time: 0 days 0:04:58.000
TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\oca.ini, error 2
TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\winxp\triage.ini, error 2
TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\user.ini, error 2
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* Exception Analysis *
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TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\guids.ini, error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for inputhost.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nvwgf2umx.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for nvwgf2umx.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for Fuz Ro D'oh.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for Fuz Ro D'oh.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for XAudio2_7.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for msvcp140.dll
TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\modclass.ini, error 2
GetUrlPageData2 (WinHttp) failed: 12029.
*** The OS name list needs to be updated! Unknown Windows version: 10.0 ***

FAULTING_IP:
SkyrimSE+132d6f
00007ff6`9e612d6f 3907 cmp dword ptr [rdi],eax

EXCEPTION_RECORD: ffffffffffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)
ExceptionAddress: 00007ff69e612d6f (SkyrimSE+0x0000000000132d6f)
ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000
Parameter[1]: 0000000000000168
Attempt to read from address 0000000000000168

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ

PROCESS_NAME: SkyrimSE.exe

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".

EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2: 0000000000000168

READ_ADDRESS: 0000000000000168

FOLLOWUP_IP:
SkyrimSE+132d6f
00007ff6`9e612d6f 3907 cmp dword ptr [rdi],eax

FAULTING_THREAD: 000000000000265c

PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS: NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ

BUGCHECK_STR: APPLICATION_FAULT_NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ

IP_ON_HEAP: 00000230e79b9b80
The fault address in not in any loaded module, please check your build's rebase
log at \bin\build_logs\timebuild\ntrebase.log for module which may
contain the address if it were loaded.

FRAME_ONE_INVALID: 1

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 00000230e79b9b80 to 00007ff69e612d6f

STACK_TEXT:
000000d7`db6ff690 00000230`e79b9b80 : 00000230`e79b9b80 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0x132d6f
000000d7`db6ff698 00000230`e79b9b80 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00007ff6`9f151a67 : 0x230`e79b9b80
000000d7`db6ff6a0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00007ff6`9f151a67 bd5c022a`3f1b3e5f : 0x230`e79b9b80


SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0

SYMBOL_NAME: SkyrimSE+132d6f

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

MODULE_NAME: SkyrimSE

IMAGE_NAME: SkyrimSE.exe

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 5a0db71d

STACK_COMMAND: ~14s; .ecxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ_c0000005_SkyrimSE.exe!Unknown

BUCKET_ID: X64_APPLICATION_FAULT_NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ_SkyrimSE+132d6f

WATSON_STAGEONE_URL: http://watson.microsoft.com/StageOne/SkyrimSE_exe/1_0_0_0/5a0db71d/SkyrimSE_exe/1_0_0_0/5a0db71d/c0000005/00132d6f.htm?Retriage=1

Followup: MachineOwner

 

 

Thank you!

[dndln]

Alright nevermind, I think I have found the error. Looks like it has been a problem with the position of "The Ordinary Women SSE" in the Load Order. I reinstalled the mod, which moved it to the bottom and now it seems to work properly... Strange because it was stated otherwise in the guide.

[SkyForgeLevi]

The load order matters a lot, when you mess with it, it messes with your game. As I (or maybe LOOT for some very strange reason) rearranged XMPSSE and SkyUI, SKSE gave an ingame error and stopped working, FNIS stopped working as well and other stuff was doing strange things (Matter of Time didn't show up, MCM was empty and lots of other weird stuff happened). I don't know, what XMPSSE has in common with SkyUI, but simply moving those two across each other (loading SkyUI, then XMPSSE) solved the SKSE/FNIS issue.

[dndln]

I didn't expect to get problems with it though, as I followed the guide which was designed with the load order in mind. Caught me a little off-guard there. :D I reported the issue to the author of the guide.

[RexLibris]

Thanks for this. I was experiencing a similar issue in Windhelm and noticed an NPC with a black face (turned out to be Silda the Unseen). Getting too close to her caused a CTD. Key lines in my dump file included:

 

 

...
ExceptionAddress: 00007ff7b5ac2d6f (SkyrimSE+0x0000000000132d6f)
...
FOLLOWUP_IP:
SkyrimSE+132d6f
...

The source of my problem was mixed load orders and priorities between the mods Consistent Older People and The Ordinary Women. STPConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp was being loaded earlier than The Ordinary Women.esp but otherwise consistent older people files were overwriting those of ordinary women. Once I aligned the orders in the left and right windows of MO2, Silda the Unseen didn't have a black face anymore, and the CTDs ceased.