huntsman2310 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 So recently my game was running fine, at least until yesterday. Because now it just gets to the slides before main menu, and then crashes. I've noticed that whenever I delete or turn off mods it does get a little closer to the menu before crashing. This leads me to believe that my problem is tied into my load order and number of mods. I have 170 active mods as of today. here is a pic of my load order in Wrye Flash, as you can see there are no conflicting elements of any kind. http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4164/loadorder.jpg The screen capture only shows the ESMs and the start of the ESPs but there aren't any conflicts at all. I've tried using BOSS to sort it all out, but I found that it keeps placing mod ESMs in front of the vanilla game ones. So that idea is garbage. So now I ask what is the optimum load order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigsters Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) I cannot see your image even after visiting imageshack site and magnifying there the load order can't be seen properly, do you know how to copy the load order from FOMM? Also in FOMM you can drag [move] the mods around with your mouse pointer and move them to the appropriate place How to move mods around in FOMM with your mouse, first click the desired mod to be moved and highlight it blue and then left click tell you see a small square at the other end of the arrow and then drag it to where you wont it to go Edited April 18, 2012 by Craigsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschang77 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Use FOMM and "load order / copy to clipboard" and past that in TEXT form. we can't read the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman2310 Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 I'll need to do a reinstall. I have nexus mod manager on the same computer so it causes some problems for FOMM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman2310 Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 So FOMM isn't working so I'll post my plugin.txt. This is copied verbatim from it.==========================================FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmCommunity Bugfix Compilation Patch.esmCaliber.esmCFWNV.esmFOOK - New Vegas.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmMore Perks.esmMore Perks for Companions.esmMore Perks for Dead Money.esmMore Perks for Honest Hearts.esmMore Perks for Old World Blues.esmMore Traits.esmNSkies URWLified.esmNVInteriors_Core.esmNVR-Strip.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmProject Nevada - Cyberware.espSelective Fire.esmSpeedyResources.esmWar Never Changes.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmiHUD.esmD.E.I.M.O.S..esmDFB - Random Encounters.esmCASE.esmCaliberXhonesthearts.esmCraft Pack.esmCraft Master.esmRustTownV1Master.esmNew Vegas Error Corrections Complete - DLC + NVCE.esmLeveled List Organizer.esmNVInteriors_ComboEdition.esmProject Nevada - Rebalance.espIWS-Core.esmImproved Sound FX.espImproved Sound FX - Merged Major DLCs.espFOOK - New Vegas.espAnimated Prostitution.espDynamiCamera.espFPSWeaponWheel.espLessIntrusiveKillCam.espReadius_NV.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espRoleplay Start 1.2.espA Better Boone.espA Better Veronica.espArea 51 - Project Roswell.espThe New Bison Steve Hotel.espUHNV.espUHNV-Dead Money.espUHNV-Honest Hearts.espUHNV-OWB.espUHNV-Lonesome Road.espCompanion Sandbox Mode.espCompanions Relax.espNVR-Version_10.espNVR-NPCs.espNVR-ELECTRO-CTIY_Patch.espNSkies URWLifiedDM.espDead Money - Automatic Rifle fix.espVault_34_better_reactor.espPerkEveryLevel.espXFO - 9a - Enemies - AI revamp.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espProject Nevada - Old World Blues.espSelective Fire - Project Nevada.espCONELRAD 640-1240.espLeveled List Organizer.espLLO-Merged Patch-Default.espLLO-Compatibility Patch-Honest Hearts.espLLO-Compatibility Patch-Dead Money.espWar Never Changes.espWar Never Changes - Seven.espMore Perks Update.espMore Perks for Companions Update.espMore Perks for Old World Blues Update.espMore Traits Update.espLLO-Merged Patch-CFWNV.espCASE-Rebalance.espNVEC Complete Improved Sound FX Patch.espBoltGun.espDWDEagle44.espEnergyWeaponDeNerf.espImproved Throwing1.espImproved Throwing DM.espMinimissilelauncher.espRHINO45-70MX_NV.espADAM - NCR Patrol Armour.espcourierpowerarmor.espCourier Power Armor - Project Nevada.espEMR-StealthSuitMkII.espFlashlightNVSE.espranger_leather.espType3 Leather Armors.espType3 Leather Armors-lvld.espBody by Race.espShotgun Commando.espGoodsprings Filler.espNewVegasBounties.espDog_City3.espTheCollector.espLight Step ED-E.espUnlimitedCompanions.espWeaponModsExpanded.espWMX-DeadMoney.espWMX-HonestHearts.espWMX-OldWorldBlues.espWMX-LonesomeRoad.espWMX-ArenovalisTextures.espWMX-ShotgunCommando.espWMX-EVE.espEVE FNV.espNVWillow.espDestruction.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.espReactive People - Ultimatum.espRealistic death.espProject Nevada - WMX.espProject Nevada - EVE.espProject Nevada - Lonesome Road.espDepth of View IE Custom.espBetterGamePerformanceV4.espNSkies URWLifiedHH.espClean Up New Vegas.espCASE-Honest Hearts Patch.espTheBigMeltdown.espLLO-Compatibility Patch-CFWNV.espLLO-Compatibility Patch-CFWNV-DM.espDWPPC357_NV.espA Case of Devil's Gold.espTANKP.espBoon of the Boomers.espRustTownAdditions3.espParadox.espSelectiveCrafting.espEvilHarland.espCables Plasma Pistol.espCraft Pack-Ammo.espIWS-HH.espIWS-Core-Patrols.espIWS-DM.espIWS-LR.espIWS-OWB.espNoBlurMenus.espAmbreaker.espAWOPDeadMoney.espClassicFalloutMessages.espSecuritronsRetextured.espXVEnclaveBunker.espCNR_Beta.espGlock Plasma Weapons For EVE.espMetro2033Hellsing.espXRocket.espThe Weapon Mod Menu.espNVCE DLC01.espNVCE DLC02.espNVCE DLC03.espNVCE DLC04.espInterior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.espILO - A World of Pain.espILO - NSkies URWLified Patch.espILO - Rust Town.espBigDevil44.esp==================================================== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschang77 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 So FOMM isn't working so I'll post my plugin.txt. First, EVE is in the wrong order. EVE first, the WMX-EVE patch comes AFTER Second, I've personally had problems with Underground Hideout NV (UHNV) which I haven't had a chance to debug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschang77 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Noticed something else: community bugfix seems to have been superceded by NV Error Corrections, and possibly Mission Mojave and FOOK. EDIT: Confirmed: Community bugfix is incorporated inot Mission Mojave. Edited April 19, 2012 by kschang77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman2310 Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Alright, I've done that. Anything else to recommend? For instance where Project Nevada and WMX should go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschang77 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I put PN after FOOK and before the map updates. But then I only use Core and cyberware. I imagine rebalance / equipment will conflict with WMX / WME somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman2310 Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Okay cool. I have noticed something though. I went into steam to revalidate the game's files, and turns out there's one missing. So it acquires the file again. But I did another check and it showed the missing file again. How odd. I think it may be Fallout's INI file because none of the mods are conflicting, and as you suggested I moved some of them around. I've seen this happen before on some of my installs, and I still don't know how to fix it for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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