how can i find what is crashing me in riften jail?

[rotwhip]

so i had this problem before, and i dont think i ever fixed it, so ill link that if anyone wants to check out another post, but its happening again, and i truly cant find out how to locate the issue,

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/5221905-crashing-about-4-ish-seconds-after-entering-riften-jail/

 

what is the best way to find a problem? its getting really annoying because i cant start the frost quest nor can i start inigo.

 

if anyone has any suggestions please let me know, because iv tried everything and nothing works...

 

Current load order to compare to old load order with the same problem

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 Sneak Tools.esp
8 8 Cutting Room Floor.esp
9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
10 a phiAssignedStorage.esp
11 b Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
12 c LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
13 d Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
14 e Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
15 f AHZmoreHUD.esp
16 10 EMHearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp
17 11 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
18 12 Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp
19 13 MajesticMountains.esp
20 14 Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
21 15 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
22 16 proudspiremanortnf.esp

23 17 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
24 18 hjerimtnf.esp
25 19 VHTNFSSE.esp
26 1a Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp
27 1b Dragonborn Delayed - After Horn Of Jurgen Windcaller.esp
28 1c Vanilla Vibrant Colors - Image Space.esp
29 1d SunDaytimeSouth.esp
30 1e Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
31 1f Vivid WeathersSE.esp
32 20 Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp
33 21 tcbm.esp
34 22 HSTNF.esp
35 23 BHTNF.esp
36 24 OpulentThievesGuild.esp
37 25 SC08WayshrineTamriel.esp
38 26 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
39 27 Point The Way.esp
40 28 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
41 29 ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
42 2a imp_helm_legend.esp
43 2b Audio Overhaul Skyrim - MLU Patch.esp
44 2c Audio Overhaul Skyrim - RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
45 2d TrueStormsSE.esp
46 2e VWTSSE-Patch.esp
47 2f Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
48 30 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Vivid Weathers Patch.esp
49 31 Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp
50 32 Vivid Weathers SE - Summer Season.esp
51 33 DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp
52 34 Mortal Enemies - Rival Remix - NoRunWalkChanges.esp
53 35 Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp
54 36 SilentSneakAttack.esp
55 37 Simple AUA.esp
56 38 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
57 39 Ars Metallica.esp
58 3a AFT_NoDances.esp
59 3b AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
60 3c PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp
61 3d Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp
62 3e Player_Shadows.esp
63 3f JZBai_ThrowingWpnsLite.esp
64 40 50 More Perk Points.esp
65 41 Ash Pile Expiration.esp
66 42 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
67 43 AMatterOfTime.esp
68 44 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
69 45 Night Eyes for the Dragonborn.esp
70 46 SkyrimSewers.esp
71 47 Faction Crossbows.esp
72 48 Joy of Perspective.esp
73 49 Run For Your Lives.esp
74 4a TravelByBoat.esp
75 4b Inigo.esp
76 4c Skaal Village.esp
77 4d Quickexit - Merged.esp
78 4e MLU - Inigo.esp
79 4f Convenient Horses.esp
80 50 notice board.esp
81 51 ThievesGuildLadder.esp
82 52 DestructibleDisplayCases.esp
83 53 Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp
84 54 MLU - Improved Closefaced Helmets.esp
85 55 Dawnguard Delayed - Level 20.esp
86 56 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
87 57 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
88 58 Footprints.esp
89 59 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
90 5a Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
91 5b Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
92 5c SimplyKnock.esp
93 5d Unique Uniques.esp
94 5e Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Unique Uniques Patch.esp
95 5f Shortcuts.esp
96 60 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
97 61 WetandCold.esp
98 62 SkyUI_SE.esp
99 63 BCS_TCIY_Patch.esp
100 64 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Ordinator Patch.esp
101 65 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
102 66 iHUD.esp
103 67 Draw!!.esp
104 68 Dawnbreaker_PeacefulExplosion.esp
105 69 Insignificant Object Remover.esp
106 6a DawnguardDawnbreaker_SunEd.esp
107 6b Breezehome free.esp
108 6c Brighter And Infinite Torches.esp
109 6d Predator Vision.esp
110 6e TrainingLimit15.esp
111 6f Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp
112 70 Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp
113 71 DisarmlessDraugr.esp
114 72 DG-NoAttacks.esp
115 73 NoDisarm.esp
116 74 sandboxcylinderheight.esp
117 75 WondersofWeather.esp
118 76 SkyrimRecycling.esp
119 77 Semi-Open Guard Helmets SE.esp
120 78 honedmetal.esp
121 79 DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp
122 7a Simply Faster Horses (x1.5).esp
123 7b CT_AskToShowRoom.esp
124 7c Ish's Souls to Perks.esp
125 7d Tanning And Smelting Experience.esp
126 7e PeopleAreStrangers.esp
127 7f ThievesGuildLadder_Patch_OTG.esp
128 80 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
129 81 MLU.esp
130 82 MLU - Summermyst.esp
131 83 MLU - Unique Uniques Patch.esp
132 84 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
133 85 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
134 86 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
135 87 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
136 88 RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp
137 89 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp