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unfortunately that's not at all how my crashes take place

i literally have no idea what to do, ive tried everything that i know how to im my modding experience so im obviouslly missing something, please oh great hive mind of nexus deliver me from my skyrimsuffering CTD's are completley random, no rhyme nor reason, im assuming its micro incompatabilities within mods that dont show up in loot or something similar. i am lost when it comes to non loot load order manipulation, especially with the number of mods i have installed. maybe im missing compatabilitiy patches?? maybe there are hard incompatabilities that im just not noticing? the game runs great except when it doesnt, and i just dont see a pattern? is it too much to ask for someone to take a look at my load order and see if im missing an important patch, or if im doing something very wrong? the game is unstable from a brand new game, so its not an issue of scrips being broken or orphaned, maybe a sound file trying to play and not being able to? any help at all is apriciated. heres my load order thank you for anyone who wants to take the time to help me sort this out. i have no idea where to procede. sorry for my spelling, dyslexia is fun.

just as title says. ive got a small confliction somewhere as SKSE isnt even bringing up the command window. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 7 7 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 8 8 Sneak Tools.esp 9 9 Campfire.esm254 FE 0 BloodForSeptimus.esl 10 a ApachiiHair.esm 11 b OSA.esm 12 c Cutting Room Floor.esp 13 d SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 14 e SkyUI_SE.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp 15 f Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp 16 10 JKs Skyrim.esp 17 11 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp 18 12 proudspiremanortnf.esp 19 13 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp 20 14 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 21 15 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp 22 16 SpellResearch.esp 23 17 Vivid WeathersSE.esp 24 18 TrueStormsSE.esp 25 19 SOSRaceMenu.esp 26 1a TrainingLimit15.esp 27 1b Player_Shadows.esp 28 1c WondersofWeather.esp 29 1d VWTSSE-Patch.esp 30 1e Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp 31 1f Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp 32 20 TruBy9.esp 33 21 Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp 34 22 Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets SSE.esp 35 23 SimplyKnock.esp 36 24 Simple AUA.esp 37 25 SilentSneakAttack.esp 38 26 RaceMenu.esp 39 27 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 40 28 QuickLight.esp 41 29 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp 42 2a dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp 43 2b sandboxcylinderheight.esp 44 2c Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp 45 2d Mortal Enemies - Rival Remix - NoRunWalkChanges.esp 46 2e Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp 47 2f HearthfireMultiKid.esp 48 30 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 49 31 Insignificant Object Remover.esp 50 32 honedmetal.esp 51 33 hjerimtnf.esp 52 34 VHTNFSSE.esp MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp 53 35 iHUD.esp 54 36 Footprints.esp 55 37 FNIS.esp 56 38 Vanilla Vibrant Colors - Image Space.esp 57 39 DisarmlessDraugr.esp 58 3a Dawnguard Delayed - Level 20.esp 59 3b DBRewards.esp 60 3c CAMP.esp 61 3d Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp 62 3e tcbm.esp 63 3f Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp 64 40 HSTNF.esp 65 41 goodbrother.esp 66 42 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp 67 43 Brighter And Infinite Torches.esp 68 44 Breezehome free.esp 69 45 BHTNF.esp 70 46 OpulentThievesGuild.esp 71 47 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 72 48 Point The Way.esp 73 49 Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp 74 4a MajesticMountains_Moss.esp 75 4b Tes Pagran Village.esp 76 4c ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp 77 4d imp_helm_legend.esp 78 4e MLU - ZIA.esp 79 4f DawnguardDawnbreaker_SunEd.esp 80 50 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 81 51 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 82 52 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp 83 53 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Vivid Weathers Patch.esp 84 54 Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp 85 55 Vivid Weathers SE - Summer Season.esp 86 56 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 87 57 50 More Perk Points.esp 88 58 SunDaytimeSouth.esp 89 59 MajesticMountains.esp 90 5a EMHearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp 91 5b Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp SummonableChest.esp Marriable Serana HF.esp 92 5c AMatterOfTime.esp 93 5d AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 94 5e Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 95 5f Serana Dialogue Edit.esp 96 60 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 97 61 Joy of Perspective.esp 98 62 TheChoiceIsYours.esp 99 63 SkyrimSewers.esp100 64 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp101 65 Tes Arena Nimalten.esp102 66 WayshrinesIFT.esp103 67 Immersive Encounters.esp104 68 CFTO.esp105 69 JKs Skyrim_No Snow Under the Roof_Patch.esp106 6a TravelByBoat.esp107 6b Inigo.esp108 6c TES Arena Amol.esp109 6d Tes Vernim Wood.esp110 6e TES DunstadGrove.esp111 6f Tes Granite Hall.esp112 70 Frostfall.esp113 71 CFTO-JK-Patch.esp114 72 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp WayshrinesIFTMoonpath.esp115 73 DG-NoAttacks.esp116 74 Night Eyes for the Dragonborn.esp117 75 MLU - Inigo.esp118 76 Better Vampires.esp119 77 DBM_AOS_Patch.esp120 78 Unique Uniques.esp121 79 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp122 7a Simply Faster Horses (x1.5).esp123 7b DBM_CRF_Patch.esp124 7c notice board.esp WheelsOfLull.esp125 7d ThievesGuildLadder.esp126 7e Shortcuts.esp127 7f ThievesGuildLadder_Patch_OTG.esp128 80 DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp129 81 Map Markers Complete.esp130 82 Vampirelordroyal.esp131 83 BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp132 84 WetandCold.esp133 85 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Unique Uniques Patch.esp134 86 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - MLU Patch.esp135 87 DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp136 88 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Zim's Immersive Artifacts Patch.esp137 89 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp138 8a DestructibleDisplayCases.esp139 8b Ars Metallica.esp140 8c DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp141 8d SkyrimRecycling.esp142 8e DBM_GoodBrother_Patch.esp143 8f SPFixed Stone of Barenziah places.esp144 90 GetBothRewardsSeries.esp145 91 Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp146 92 Ish's Souls to Perks.esp147 93 AFT_NoDances.esp148 94 Tanning And Smelting Experience.esp149 95 Faction Crossbows.esp150 96 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp151 97 Ash Pile Expiration.esp152 98 CT_AskToShowRoom.esp153 99 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp154 9a Dawnbreaker_PeacefulExplosion.esp155 9b PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp156 9c PeopleAreStrangers.esp157 9d TwohandedSpeed.esp158 9e RealisticSpeedMovementWalkingSE.esp159 9f DBM_DGE_Patch.esp160 a0 DBM_ISC_Patch.esp161 a1 DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp162 a2 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp TCIY_BCS Patch.esp163 a3 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp RDO - USSEP Patch.esp164 a4 Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp165 a5 BCS_TCIY_Patch.esp ISC Morrowloot Patch.esp166 a6 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Ordinator Patch.esp167 a7 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp168 a8 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp169 a9 LycHairstyler.esp170 aa HavenBag.esp171 ab Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp172 ac MLU.esp MLU - Immersive Armors.esp173 ad MLU - Improved Closefaced Helmets.esp174 ae MLU - Summermyst.esp175 af MLU - Ars Metallica Patch.esp176 b0 DBM_MLU_Patch.esp177 b1 My Home Is Your Home.esp178 b2 MLU - Unique Uniques Patch.esp179 b3 MLU - Lore Weapon Expansion.esp180 b4 Open Cities Skyrim.esp181 b5 JKs Skyrim_Open Cities_Patch.esp182 b6 DBM_OpenCities_Patch.esp254 FE 1 OCS + Skyrim Sewers.esp183 b7 Convenient Horses.esp184 b8 Predator Vision.esp185 b9 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp186 ba RealisticWaterTwo.esp187 bb RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp188 bc RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp254 FE 2 JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp189 bd RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp190 be Audio Overhaul Skyrim - RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp191 bf RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp thanks! LOOT only shows 2 errors, JK's and OCS, but i have the patch for them so it should work. but it still wont launch SKSE without OCS or any of the patches installed either, so its not that specific "conflict"

so i had this problem before, and i dont think i ever fixed it, so ill link that if anyone wants to check out another post, but its happening again, and i truly cant find out how to locate the issue, https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/5221905-crashing-about-4-ish-seconds-after-entering-riften-jail/ what is the best way to find a problem? its getting really annoying because i cant start the frost quest nor can i start inigo. if anyone has any suggestions please let me know, because iv tried everything and nothing works... Current load order to compare to old load order with the same problem

unfortunately that was not it, as i said, it was an older mod where you could melt things down and convert components to other components while being reasonably balanced. it all happened from a components menu in the chemistry station, and i think it was from wither a crafting overhaul or a chemistry overhaul, i just cant remember which. the mod you linked looks cool, but unfortunately not the one i was trying to locate.

I know this mod exists because ive used it before, and i loved it, but i cant for the life of me remember what in the world it was called. it lets you break down components into others (such as melting down springs into steel) and also create components (such as ceramic from glass, concrete from steel and ceramic, fiber optics from crystal, ect.) can anyone help me find what this mod is? thanks! EDIT: fouuuuund it! Grenades Syringer Rifles and Ammo plus Chemistry Packplacing it here incase anyone wants to know as well

well for starters, its consistent on older characters too, and USSEP is where its at for another reason that im not really getting in to, its a mess if its not. i can try a memory patch, but ill get to that in a sec, everything is right as it is straight out of loot, but i suppose i can move some stuff around too, im not quite looking for load order maintenance, and im 99.99% sure this isnt related to the brawl bug fix : :tongue: i assume by big city editing mods you mean OCS? because if so wouldnt that no have an effect as the riften jail is an interior cell with the only link to OCS being the load door? aditionally, immersive NPCs is compatible with both cutting room floor AND OCS, so i doubt that would be an issue

essentially whats going on is that i enter the riften jail to do a quest, and i crash about 4 seconds past the load door. i actually get in the cell enough to look around for a little bit, and then it crashes afterwards. i can pause the game and postpone the crash for a good while, but the second i un-pause, i crash out. sometimes i can walk all the way up to the second door by the guard, but i can never go past that. additionally, i can get myself arrested and get in that way, but that changes nothing. from what i understand, its not a riftenjail01 cell issue, but something wrong with something IN the jail that i cant figure out... (this is also the first time i visited riften in this playthrough) heres the stuff you all probably need :smile: all mods installed with NMM Loadorder: https://modwat.ch/u/rotwhip example of crash when i can move and look around (up to the door): https://youtu.be/oHrUnyl5SAY?t=56s example of crash when i can only look around for a little bit: (note that both of these videos end at the crash. it does stop abruptly, however i cant really change that.) of course let me know if theres anything else you need to see.

essentially, night time makes windows look like this. obviously the enb is doing something, but the enb should not do this at all by itself, so clearly something else is effecting it. http://i63.tinypic.com/bi6mc6.jpg heres my load order in case my searching missed something http://pastebin.com/7HUusQd8 (yes i know its a little messy, it does its job) let me know if theres anything i need to do in adition.

yeah, re-creating the ini made the game actually start up this time, however my "weak" 860 apparently defaults to medum. apparently. now to install mods one by one and see what makes it crash, however, im just hoping it was the ini making things crash

uhh, alright. since i have a decent download speed, and i figured it would be easier to just re-install the game and start fresh. after a 25ish minite download, i sarted a completly untouched game, no obse or anything. and the game crashes upon startup i have no clue now...

alright; yes i cleaned knights esp, however it would not launch prior to cleaning either i did not actually try to launch the game without mods.... so i can deffinatley try that... game is installed on external SSD i can try setting obse to run as admin, but i have not tried that yet but for now i can do the whole "uninstall and reinstall slowly meathod" (i was planning on doing that, but it was 3am and i didnt have time :P) thanks for the insight, and ill report back what i find

this is my first time getting into oblivion and i'm really looking forward to it. i have very few mods installed, and i have the script extender installed and running, however once the scrip extender window pops up, the game stops responding, and is forced to quit EDIT:(probably should add that i am running the GOTY edition through the steam launcher per ovse's instructions) loot is showing no warnings or errors and i have cleaned all my masters, any ideas on what is still left to do? i am also using windows 10, so i'm really hoping it will still work with that.... disclaimer: i am not new to modding, so i do not believe i have made any silly rookie mistakes, however i am brand new to modding oblivion, so there may be differences in procedure to mod an earlier Bethesda title regardless, here is my load order: looking forward to finally trying out oblivion for the first time, just need to sort out the whole "not starting" problem :D

sorry about the long reply time, no i am not using that mod, i uninstalled rulebreaker to replace it with survival options, so i would assume the problem is residual settings or scripts conflicting, is there a way yet to clean them out of the save? i understand we do not have a good way of cleaning saves yet for fallout 4 (that i know of) i hear visiting a doctor may fix the issues, but im unsure if that is true or not, i will have to test that once i get to a city (im also suffering from the fast travel bug, but i cant fix it with any of the fixes (im fine using coc)

for some reason, when I changed over from rulebreaker to survival options, i am no longer able to remove hunger and thirst from my character, no matter how much food or water i drink. i still loose hunger and thirst, but im not able to get "un-hungry/thirsty" the weird thing is i can still sleep to become un-tired is there either a console command that sets those variables, back to 0, or one that resets that system to hopefully "reboot" the hunger and thirst back to 0? or a fix would be cool too if thats available :P

i have reached the mod limit (255 plugins) and i am unable to load any more mods. this is super annoying because about 40% of my plugins are individual patches to make armor keywords, see-trough-scopes, and similar mods to work with my standalone weapons. how can i either get rid of these plugins, or make them all one single plugin instead of being 50+ random bs that is tanking up plugin space im not a new modder per-se, but im not super skilled either, (i have dabbled in xEdit to modify values, but beyond that, im not quite sure what to do.) i understand there is supposedly a mod on the skyrim nexus that is supposed to do this automatically, but im not sure how to get it working at all. (it dosent recognize fallout 4 existing.) http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69905/?

glad everyone is liking the title, something to be said for clickbait, it brings in the people :P

Load all your mods and open companions can sneak and select Nicks records, if you can see them. On the right panel it should show you how many mods edit same NPC, including original Fallout .esm. I load it up and i have nothing conflicting with it other than the Fallout4.esm, so i dont see how that could develop a problem, however, when i remove CCS, i get no face error (that i see so far) not sure what the problem origionally was, but since im not really playing a sneaky character, so im not against disabling the mod... i would have to do a few more hours of testing to see if the error pops back up again, however the only thing out of any of my mods that effects nick's records is that mod. so im not sure what else it could have been

the only thing i can see is the companions can sneak mod, and thats it, im not sure what effect that would have on his face, and i dont see any unusual numbers in FO4Edit, but i can do some more looking

http://tinypic.com/r/29zu0dc/9 its getting on my nerves having to go into the console just to disable>enable valentine every 10 mins or so, and while i could just put a helmet on him, i feel that wouldnt actually solve anything. any ideas? i have no replacer textures for him or anything, so i have no clue what it could be

apoligies, took me quite a while, did a 14 hour shift and passed out the second i got home :P here you go (so many plugins........) ill check on the UI mods in an hour or so, i need to take care of stuff for uni

still looking for help if anyone knows what the problem is, i really dont want to have to start a new save....

currently i am unable to heal any of my companions (survival mode), and workshop building is very annoying because of some error with activators only having 1 option currently the only options i have for companions is "R) go home" or "R) come on" (they swap when i click R) Reference: http://tinypic.com/r/28bqnhu/9 and with the workshops it only lets me "E) Search" reference: http://tinypic.com/r/kf2txx/9 when i activate the only option on the workshop (search) it brings up the inventory overlay and the building overlay at the same time (this can be worked around by doing a convoluted mes, but its still part of the problem) Reference: http://pasteboard.co/15DlcRrb.jpg (tinypic stopped working) has anyone seen this before? and does anyone have any clue how to fix this? its passed the point of being annoying, and has moved to game breaking

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