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Hey, everyone!

 

I'm having an annoying problem. :psyduck:

I'm playing with a lot of mods and, sometime during the game, it will get slower and slower and crash. And if I've made a save state in the place it happens, I can't load it back, as it crashes to desktop when I try (it don't say the file is corrupted, through).

 

I think my description is kinda confusing, so I'll try to give an example with what is happening right now in my save game:

 

I'm in the Arrow of Extrification quest and went way down to where I find a door outside to the ocean (near the Giant Slaughterfish). When I entered it, the game crashed. I was able to load my game (at the ocean, outside the Grotto) and it was just fine, but whenever i tried to get back to the Bravil's Wizard Grotto, the game CTD. I've tried to go back via this submerse door and back again at the castle, to no avail.

 

So I loaded a quicksave a few minutes back, still inside the Grotto, and tried some other route. The game gradually got slower and slower, untill I tried another quicksave, which ended the same way (crashing to desktop).

When I open Oblivion back I can see the save is still there (and the picture shows me it was made where i tried to) but it won't load.

 

It happened the same in another save. I was playing a Dunmer and trying to up my Block skill just outside of Skingrad with a wolf when this happened.

 

I know this looks like an old bug that affected unpatched games, but mine is patched.

 

Any ideas? It's so annoying to play knowing that, sooner or later, your game will crash.

 

Here is my list of mods, by load order:

 

 


  1.  
  2. Oblivion.esm
  3. RealisticLeveling.esm
  4. Romance Air.esm
  5. Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
  6. Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
  7. Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
  8. CM Partners.esm
  9. Toaster Says Share v3.esm
  10. No Lights Flicker.esm
  11. NLF Orrery.esp
  12. NLF Knights.esp
  13. NLF FrostCrag.esp
  14. NLF VileLair.esp
  15. NLF MehrunesRazor.esp
  16. Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
  17. UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
  18. Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
  19. DLCHorseArmor.esp
  20. DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
  21. X-Ray Detect.esp
  22. DLCOrrery.esp
  23. DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
  24. _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
  25. DLCFrostcrag.esp
  26. DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
  27. oc_darker_nights.esp
  28. DLCThievesDen.esp
  29. DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
  30. M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part One.esp
  31. M.O.E. - New Classes.esp
  32. M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp
  33. M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp
  34. M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp
  35. M.O.E. - Better Icon for Script Effects.esp
  36. M.O.E. - Playable Dremora and Custom Race Fix.esp
  37. M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp
  38. M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp
  39. M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part Two.esp
  40. M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp
  41. M.O.E. - Levitation Magic.esp
  42. M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp
  43. DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
  44. M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp
  45. M.O.E. - Alternative Script Effect Icon I.esp
  46. M.O.E. - Alternative Script Effect Icon II.esp
  47. DLCVileLair.esp
  48. DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
  49. DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
  50. CM Partners.esp
  51. CM Partners NPC NE.esp
  52. M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp
  53. M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp
  54. M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp
  55. M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp
  56. M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp
  57. M.O.E. - Kill Martin and Jauffre.esp
  58. M.O.E. - Undermined Leveled Gameplay - Creature Edition.esp
  59. M.O.E. - Undermined Leveled Gameplay - Item Edition.esp
  60. M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp
  61. M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp
  62. M.O.E. - Realistic Prices, Realistic Weights, No Quest Items.esp
  63. CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp
  64. CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
  65. CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
  66. DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
  67. DLCSpellTomes.esp
  68. DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
  69. Knights.esp
  70. Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
  71. Gaenor in Dementia.esp
  72. DLCShiveringIsles.esp
  73. DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
  74. Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
  75. Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
  76. Francesco's Optional Files 4.esp
  77. Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp
  78. Francesco's Optional Files 3.esp
  79. Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp
  80. SupremeMagicka.esp
  81. Dark Dungeons.esp
  82. DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
  83. Quest Award Leveller.esp
  84. Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
  85. Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
  86. M.O.E. - Vampire Players Scarier.esp
  87. M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp
  88. M.O.E. - Travel Services.esp
  89. TSS Custom Companion Template.esp
  90. SM_NoPoisonLevitationEffects.esp
  91. Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
  92. Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
  93. Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
  94. Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
  95. Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part E.esp
  96. Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part A.esp
  97. Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part B.esp
  98. Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part C.esp
  99. Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part D.esp
  100. Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 1.esp
  101. Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 2.esp
  102. Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 3.esp
  103. CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
  104. MidasSpells.esp
  105. Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp
  106. Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp
  107. Clock Hotkey.esp
  108. Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.esp
  109. DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
  110. pmCrimeHandler.esp
  111. pmRealTimeInteractions.esp
  112. Horror Walkway.esp
  113. EyesOfTamriel.esp
  114. Daremo's Galaxy Eyes EE.esp
  115. Male Hair Mod.esp
  116. RA ADD GRV.esp
  117. RA Chain Add-on.esp
  118. RA Objects.esp
  119. Dark Dungeons - SI.esp
  120. DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp
  121. SneakMultiplier.esp
  122. RealisticHealth.esp
  123. RealisticFatigue.esp
  124. UVII.esp
     

 

I've also tried to deactivate them all and nothing changed.

 

By the way, sorry about my english as it's not my first language! :whistling:

 

Thanks in advance!

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It won't help your current situation but quicksave is a known corrupter of save files. Either use save from the Esc menu or named saves via the console.

 

I doubt it will help your corrupted saves, but you could try the 'coc center' trick and see if it helps. Open the console (use the tilde (~) key right below the Esc key on standard keyboards) and type 'coc center' (without the quote marks) and then hit Enter. You'll be transported to an open plain with a few trees visible in the distance. Use the wait function to wait 72 hours plus a bit more (three full days and then a little longer). Open the console again and then 'coc weye' (or another location if you know the correct location code). Go back to your problem area and see if it's working (I tend to not use fast travel, especially when troubleshooting ... your mileage may differ).

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It won't help your current situation but quicksave is a known corrupter of save files. Either use save from the Esc menu or named saves via the console.

 

I doubt it will help your corrupted saves, but you could try the 'coc center' trick and see if it helps. Open the console (use the tilde (~) key right below the Esc key on standard keyboards) and type 'coc center' (without the quote marks) and then hit Enter. You'll be transported to an open plain with a few trees visible in the distance. Use the wait function to wait 72 hours plus a bit more (three full days and then a little longer). Open the console again and then 'coc weye' (or another location if you know the correct location code). Go back to your problem area and see if it's working (I tend to not use fast travel, especially when troubleshooting ... your mileage may differ).

 

Thanks for your reply!

 

I didn't knew that quicksaves corrupted files, but I don't think they are the problem in this matter.

 

Anyway, I'll try your solution right now, thanks again! :D

 

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Ok, when I opened the game i remembered that all the saves with this problem wouldn't open. So I had to get back and use a backup of my quicksave. Did what you said, but the game still crashes to desktop a little later (now, inside the Mage's Lair). I've waited there for 78 hours, but I don't think it changed anything.

 

But I've seen that with this backup of my quicksave I was able to do more and that, inside the Saves folder there were some save files with an ".obse" extension. i thought that maybe it was thisd very file fault and deleted it, but it didn't changed anything.

 

So, I'm still kinda stuck. :confused:

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If you look you'll notice that for each save with the .obse extension there's a corresponding save with the extension .ess (e.g. if you have a save named MySave.ess there will also be a save named MySave.obse). The reason for this is that Oblivion Script Extender (OBSE) stores information it needs in the smaller .obse save file. You shouldn't delete just the .obse file and then try to load the .ess file that goes with it. If you're deleting saves always do them in pairs (in other words delete both MySave.ess and MySave.obse).

 

Like I said I doubted that the 'coc center' trick would help, but it was worth a try. There's not much else I can think to try.

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If you look you'll notice that for each save with the .obse extension there's a corresponding save with the extension .ess (e.g. if you have a save named MySave.ess there will also be a save named MySave.obse). The reason for this is that Oblivion Script Extender (OBSE) stores information it needs in the smaller .obse save file. You shouldn't delete just the .obse file and then try to load the .ess file that goes with it. If you're deleting saves always do them in pairs (in other words delete both MySave.ess and MySave.obse).

 

Like I said I doubted that the 'coc center' trick would help, but it was worth a try. There's not much else I can think to try.

 

Yeah, I know. I've made a backup from the saves folder, so I just put it back and it's fine.

 

I think I'll just do some random dungeon exploring or a couple of quests for the Mages Guild and go back there, hoping that it will be fixed.

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