MeowPatch Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Just as a supplement before I explain this mess, I have like 170+ mods active at once for Skyrim. I do mod the game, and yes, I think that these crashes I'm getting are related to said modding. I decided that trying out the NMM would be a good idea since there was a super complicated mod I wanted installed and NMM makes those mod installations easy, right? I install like three mods, blah blah blah, regret. I delete them from the data folder and uninstall NMM from the programs list. Recycling bin emptied. Bam. And then Skyrim starts CTDing. CTD will occur if I load a saved game, or start a new game. When the loading screen ends and the game attempts to resume or start, CTD. I then added this to my Skyrim.ini:[Papyrus]bEnableLogging=1bEnableTrace=1bLoadDebugInformation=1 That gave me a log of the crash; not only is it extremely confusing, but from my amateur log analyzing eyes it looks like pretty much everything under the sun is causing these crashes. Here's the full text: https://pastebin.com/sKFH0csR For reference, the crash occurs somewhere around line 300. I've done pretty much everything I can think of to fix this. First off, I immediately went to TES5Edit and cleaned up a bunch of junk that LOOT told me to clean up. After that, I verified the integrity of the game cache with Steam. 5 files missing, retrieved, and still no luck. After retrieving the 5 files, I verified the integrity again and it said 1 file was missing. I let it do its thing again and looked at LOOT. Suddenly, all DLC and Update.esm decided they needed to be cleaned again. Not sure if that's normal after what I did, but whatever, it happened. I cleaned it all up again hoping something would happen. Nothing. Still CTD. Then I decided to defrag my hard disk. No idea what it would do, but who knows? Yeah, it did nothing besides make my computer run marginally faster. I really don't want to delete all mods, redownload Skyrim, etc. etc. because that is horrible and frankly would take all night and although that's something I'm willing to do, it's also something I'm not willing to do. I know that makes no sense on paper, but it does in my head. Any help or answers would be appreciated, particularly in the form of understanding what's causing these crashes. Edited April 11, 2018 by MeowPatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted21550714User Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 You have tes5edit, load all mods into tes5edit and see if your missing a master. If your missing a master tes5edit will stop, and tell you.hopefully your missing a master. I have never used nmm, I don't know how it works when you install a mod that overwrites vanilla,or maybe worst another mod, to then uninstall mod that overwrote stuff. What mods did you uninstall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeowPatch Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) You have tes5edit, load all mods into tes5edit and see if your missing a master. If your missing a master tes5edit will stop, and tell you.hopefully your missing a master. I have never used nmm, I don't know how it works when you install a mod that overwrites vanilla,or maybe worst another mod, to then uninstall mod that overwrote stuff. What mods did you uninstall?I uninstalled NetImmerse Override, Realistic Force, Bathing in Skyrim, and XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended. I think I should have kept NetImmerse Override, so I'll reinstall that. Prior to the installation of these mods, I didn't install anything that required XP32 MSE, Realistic Force, or Bathing in Skyrim, but I might've had NetImmerse Override initially. I went ahead and reinstalled it, but that did nothing for my CTDing. As a side note, Skyrim is telling me that my saves rely on data no longer present. I don't think that means anything since I have uninstalled mods from those saves indeed, but whatever. It's a thing. I went ahead and installed Mod Organizer to determine if I'm missing any masters since I hear that can tell me if I am or not by trying to run Skyrim through it. It's telling me that my saves are missing a few mods I should have installed, so I went ahead and reinstalled those mods for good measure. I don't think I'm missing anything otherwise one of these programs would probably have told me by now. In addition, I'm now seeing a shitload of flags up for a bunch of mods I have installed on Mod Organizer which seems to have pinpointed my problems(?). This is what I'm looking at: http://prntscr.com/j42sj0 As far as I can tell, most of these mods are being overwritten by that mod up top - the [KijikoHair_MalePack], but stuff like HearthFires is being overwritten by Dragonborn, which is making me even more confused. Am I having load order issues? Because it seems like anything like that would be solved by LOOT or TES5edit when I ran them. Upon further investigation as well, this looks kinda fishy (focus on that rightmost pane with all the grayed-out check boxes): http://prntscr.com/j42u05 It seems like the [KijikoHair_MalePack] archive includes a f*#@load of other mods which have nothing to do with it (i.e. s*** like JSwords, HeartFires, or Live Another Life). How do I fix this? Edited April 12, 2018 by MeowPatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted21550714User Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 looking at the last pic you posted, you clearly have problems with your data folder. none of the mods should show up with the hair pack mod. all your mods showing in MO are thrown into the data folder, MO works outside of the data folder. After looking in pic from your first post, you got some problems. I would be amazed if there was a solution other than starting from scratch, sorry not trying to be rude. it i was in your position i would nuke it, start over. 2 options for that route. this link can get your skyrim vanilla again.http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Make_Skyrim_Vanilla_Again after getting clean you should verify your game files in steam. https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2037-QEUH-3335 option 2, you uninstall steam and reinstall steam and games, if you have more than skyrim in steam probably want to go with first option. if you go with 2nd option make sure you delete your skyrim folder in appdata folder. Users/yourname/appdata/local/skyrim. I would also recommend,after getting back to vanilla, getting MO going so that your data folder is never touched. MO should look like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitl2017 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 looking at the last pic you posted, you clearly have problems with your data folder. none of the mods should show up with the hair pack mod. all your mods showing in MO are thrown into the data folder, MO works outside of the data folder. After looking in pic from your first post, you got some problems. I would be amazed if there was a solution other than starting from scratch, sorry not trying to be rude. it i was in your position i would nuke it, start over. 2 options for that route. this link can get your skyrim vanilla again.http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Make_Skyrim_Vanilla_Again after getting clean you should verify your game files in steam. https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2037-QEUH-3335 option 2, you uninstall steam and reinstall steam and games, if you have more than skyrim in steam probably want to go with first option. if you go with 2nd option make sure you delete your skyrim folder in appdata folder. Users/yourname/appdata/local/skyrim. I would also recommend,after getting back to vanilla, getting MO going so that your data folder is never touched. MO should look like this. ^ Agreed. I'd reinstall skyrim. It sounds worse than a simple "download some other mod and it will be fixed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeowPatch Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) looking at the last pic you posted, you clearly have problems with your data folder. none of the mods should show up with the hair pack mod. all your mods showing in MO are thrown into the data folder, MO works outside of the data folder. After looking in pic from your first post, you got some problems. I would be amazed if there was a solution other than starting from scratch, sorry not trying to be rude. it i was in your position i would nuke it, start over. 2 options for that route. this link can get your skyrim vanilla again.http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Make_Skyrim_Vanilla_Again after getting clean you should verify your game files in steam. https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2037-QEUH-3335 option 2, you uninstall steam and reinstall steam and games, if you have more than skyrim in steam probably want to go with first option. if you go with 2nd option make sure you delete your skyrim folder in appdata folder. Users/yourname/appdata/local/skyrim. I would also recommend,after getting back to vanilla, getting MO going so that your data folder is never touched. MO should look like this. ^ Agreed. I'd reinstall skyrim. It sounds worse than a simple "download some other mod and it will be fixed" I see! Thanks for the help. I kinda figured after looking through a bunch of s*** that this wasn't gonna get fixed by deleting one mod or downloading another or just screwing with load order. I'll do as suggested and start from scratch (and maybe mod a little more lightly). Edited April 14, 2018 by MeowPatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SniperDog69 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Heels Sound.esm 7 7 HepsyHair.esm 8 8 BeeingFemale.esm 9 9 hdtHighHeel.esm 10 a RaceCompatibility.esm 11 b ApachiiHair.esm 12 c CreatureFramework.esm 13 d dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm 14 e SMSkyrim.esp 15 f SexLab.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 17 11 SexLabAroused.esm 18 12 BBLuxurySuite.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 20 14 DonJuansPlayersClubMaster.esm 21 15 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 22 16 TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm 23 17 daymoyl.esm 24 18 zzEsSp.esm 25 19 Fox__GirlsClub_NPC.esm 26 1a Amputator.esm 27 1b Heretical Resources.esm 28 1c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 29 1d ZazExtensionPack.esm 30 1e Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 31 1f DeviousFramework.esm 32 20 PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm 33 21 OSA.esm 34 22 actorEvents.esm 35 23 HighResTexturePack01.esp 36 24 HighResTexturePack02.esp 37 25 HighResTexturePack03.esp 38 26 Angeli Devious Expansion.esp 39 27 Character Behaviors Enhanced.esp 40 28 CharmingHighHeels.esp 41 29 Cloth Diaper.esp 42 2a CustomizedMilkingCuirass.esp 43 2b Cute Succubus - Nokou.esp 44 2c DrunkenSluts.esp 45 2d Eyes of Aber.esp 46 2e GemBikini.esp 47 2f HentaiSuccubusArmor.esp 48 30 Jugs.esp 49 31 KS Hairdo's.esp 50 32 Kinky Kitties - Nokou.esp 51 33 PedsPlayerHFManakins.esp 52 34 LADL - No Starting Spells.esp 53 35 MoreRevelers.esp 54 36 PND-KNN wash patch.esp 55 37 Private Needs Discreet.esp 56 38 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 57 39 SLAdv_GoldWeight.esp 58 3a SLAdventures.esp 59 3b StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp 60 3c VivisCockcage.esp 61 3d XiNafay - Kitty Corset.esp 62 3e XiNafay - Shoes.esp 63 3f SkinTight.esp 64 40 SissySuite.esp 65 41 Shuffle Cosplay - Nokou.esp 66 42 lilithssickle.esp 67 43 SerialStrip.esp 68 44 vlkStripManager.esp 69 45 vlkStripManagerSOS.esp 70 46 RealisticRoomRental.esp 71 47 3DNPC.esp RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp 72 48 MilkModNEW.esp 73 49 SD Cages.esp 74 4a clubhouse.esp 75 4b Namiras Decorations.esp 76 4c MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancyB.esp 77 4d ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp 78 4e BHTNF_Eli.esp 79 4f zdd.esp 80 50 HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp 81 51 RM_Barbarian.esp 82 52 FlameAtronachArmor.esp 83 53 FullBootForKKSA.esp 84 54 kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp 85 55 GrimSovereignBoosette.esp 86 56 HDT Maid Outfit.esp 87 57 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 88 58 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 89 59 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 90 5a HearthfireMultiKid.esp 91 5b HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 92 5c Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 93 5d SkyUI.esp 94 5e InteractiveWashBasinsAllHFHomes.esp 95 5f Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 96 60 RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp 97 61 SMSkyrim - Compressed.esp 98 62 SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp 99 63 Ambriel.esp 100 64 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 101 65 BeeingFemale.esp 102 66 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 103 67 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 104 68 wolfclub.esp 105 69 Clockwork.esp 106 6a SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 107 6b zNightMistressMansion.esp 108 6c Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 109 6d InteractiveWashBasinsCOMPLETE.esp 110 6e HOBMint.esp 111 6f SimpleSlavery.esp RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp 112 70 Hunterborn.esp 113 71 zTrap.esp 114 72 MistySkye.esp 115 73 Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp 116 74 Bathing in Skyrim - Interactive Wash Basins.esp 117 75 FemaleUlfric.esp 118 76 The Ordinary Women.esp 119 77 Abigail The Maid.esp 120 78 ASSU - Nokou.esp 121 79 CoCo_TDM2.esp 122 7a SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 123 7b SofiaFollower.esp 124 7c Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 125 7d BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 126 7e SexLab-Parasites.esp 127 7f MoreNastyCritters.esp 128 80 SexLab_Dialogues.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp 129 81 Mango.esp 130 82 SOS - Shop.esp 131 83 Azura's Club.esp 132 84 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp TemptressVixen.esp 133 85 Spousetocustomhome.esp 134 86 Follower Neisa.esp 135 87 SexLab_Hormones.esp 136 88 LairOfDarkness.esp 137 89 Laura's Bondage Shop.esp 138 8a FlowerGirls.esp 139 8b Darklilith.esp 140 8c EggFactory.esp 141 8d Dibellas Grace.esp 142 8e Merta Black Rose Armor.esp 143 8f Sextoys Calyps Chest.esp 144 90 SLSW Addicted.esp 145 91 sextoys-calyps-2.esp 146 92 SuccubusRaceLite.esp 147 93 TropicalIsland.esp 148 94 Arachnophobia.esp 149 95 Armbinders_With_Hands.esp 150 96 SoapRetex_BIS.esp 151 97 DwarvenAutomobile.esp 152 98 Bathing in Skyrim - Create Soaps.esp 153 99 BeautifulCorpse.esp 154 9a bestrape.esp 155 9b Namira'sGoat.esp 156 9c Nimra's Goat.esp 157 9d Gwelda Armor Pack.esp 158 9e Elewin Pumps 2.esp 159 9f Elewin Pumps.esp 160 a0 Cute Adoptable.esp 161 a1 silverfish.esp 162 a2 Ciceriareplacor.esp 163 a3 Lucretia.esp 164 a4 Breathing Rose.esp 165 a5 C5Kev's Hermaeus Mora Priestess UUNP.esp 166 a6 Clock Work Planet - Nokou.esp 167 a7 AmputatorFrameworkRecipe.esp 168 a8 DfwSupport.esp 169 a9 Devious Looting.esp 170 aa DeviousTraining.esp 171 ab DietBasedButt.esp 172 ac dcc-dm2.esp 173 ad Dwarven Cyborg Collection v2-00 - Edhildil Set.esp 174 ae Dwarven Cyborg Collection v2-00.esp 175 af Dwarven Cyborg Collection v2-00 - Gynoid Set.esp 176 b0 sr_FillHerUp.esp 177 b1 FourBoobs.esp 178 b2 HDTSextoys.esp 179 b3 HentaiCreatures.esp 180 b4 pchsImmersivePlugs.esp 181 b5 Kalena Rios.esp 182 b6 MagicNipple.esp 183 b7 dc-mana-tanks-000.esp 184 b8 UIExtensions.esp 185 b9 AddItemMenuLE.esp 186 ba RaceMenu.esp 187 bb RaceMenuPlugin.esp 188 bc TS_ECatsuit&Ballet.esp 189 bd SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 190 be SuccubusLife.esp 191 bf SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 192 c0 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 193 c1 SOSRaceMenuRotation.esp 194 c2 SlutPrincess.esp 195 c3 SLAnimLoader.esp 196 c4 KomAnimObjects.esp 197 c5 SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp 198 c6 NibblesAnimObjects.esp 199 c7 adcSexlife.esp 200 c8 yptg.esp 201 c9 SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp 202 ca SexLab Submit.esp 203 cb submitdd_ff.esp 204 cc submitdd_ff_exp.esp 205 cd SexLab Extra Voices.esp 206 ce SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 207 cf SerialStripper.esp 208 d0 RohZima_AnimObjects.esp 209 d1 ForcedMilkMaid.esp 210 d2 MilkModNEW HF.esp 211 d3 MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp 212 d4 MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp 213 d5 nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp 214 d6 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 215 d7 My Home Is Your Home.esp 216 d8 Seductress Serana.esp 217 d9 Seductress Elizabeth.esp 218 da HAnimations.esp 219 db SOSRaceMenu.esp 220 dc XPMSE.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0 - Main.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp 221 dd FNIS.esp 222 de FNISspells.esp 223 df zzEstrus.esp 224 e0 BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp 225 e1 Slavemarketplace.esp 226 e2 MonnoBikini.esp 227 e3 FaceHugger.esp 228 e4 NIOVHH.esp 229 e5 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 230 e6 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp 231 e7 DW.esp 232 e8 SkyHUD.esp 233 e9 CleavageEquip.esp 234 ea Merta Assassin Armor.esp 235 eb MidnightArmorUNP.esp 236 ec Northgirl.esp 237 ed Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 238 ee EstrusChaurus.esp 239 ef EstrusSpider.esp 240 f0 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 241 f1 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 242 f2 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp 243 f3 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 244 f4 ShakeIt.esp 245 f5 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 246 f6 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 247 f7 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 248 f8 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 249 f9 Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp 250 fa ImmerSlave.esp 251 fb Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp 252 fc Submit belt.esp can some one help me with my load order it keeps ctd at new game loading screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted21550714User Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 do you have tes5edit installed? MO or NMM? Skse ini or crash fix mod installed? Enboost installed? Unp or CBBE? Cat person or Dog person? other than seeing an esp file mixed in with esm files, in addition to seeing high resolution dlc installed, didn't see anything really wrong with load order, if didn't use loot i dont think loot would of done much better. the high resolution dlcs should not be used. Their huge in file size and has problems, Nexus has better options. If you have tes5edit run all active mods in it. If it loads all active mods your not missing masters or having a master mod loading after dependant mod. Rules some stuff out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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