Crash/freeze in Karthwasten

[tVEC]

Hi

 

Before I sift through my mods, I was wondering if anyone else has had crashing, freezing, or corrupted saves in or near Karthwasten?

It is a little settlement near Markath. I get random crashes in and around there. Sometimes it freezes. Any save made within sight of the village fails to load. Using magic there often triggers a freeze.

Sometimes I can run all around with no problem. I have done a quest there no problem. Killed a dragon in the center of town no problem.

Weeks ago the crashing there was consistent, now its random.

 

Only thing I could find online- http://www.freefrag.com/skyrim/20862-crash-every-time.html

 

Thanks for any info!

Edited April 23, 2012 by tVEC

[vitalsine]

I made a post about this the other day, except I thought it was because of a different location. Had to go back to a different save game that was 20 hours older and now I am back to this same place and I am crashing again. Wicked weird. Definetly not mod related, tried with fresh install, no mods or ENB, and it still happens. If I stand still no, but as soon as I start running around that area it crashes. I found that same post as you just now. Ill keep looking as well, let me know if you find anything! Thanks! Also, this never happened before I updated my Radeon drivers the other day to 12.4. Even after reverting I am still experiencing the issue though. Maybe I just made it to that zone for the first time that morning right after updating, lol. Who knows.

 

EDIT:

Just came across this. Tried to give it a shot, but then I clicked my General Stats tab to see how long had actually passed and I crashed. lol.

 

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/46197/certain-areas-cause-a-game-crash

 

I tried what they say in the link above and I seem to be alright. I just spent half an hour running around Karthwasten with NO CRASHES! Woohoo! I actually waited 12 days though. Wicked tedious, but worth it if its a fix. On another note, when I did the "Escape from Cidnha Mine" quest, I tricked Madanach into thinking I was on his side, then I killed his ass before we walked out the door after he gave me my s***. Screw that dude. Anyway, Thonar Silver-Blood was bugged after, and just stood that the entrance to that place where you meet him at the end. He never left. I am starting to think that has something to do with this. It has happened to me twice now on two different save games. Different combination of mods and everything. But, I did the same thing to Madanach in BOTH saves. Im just a swindling bastard like that. I am going to see if there is a way to reset him and/or check if the 12 days of sleep/wait finally fixed him. God knows I couldnt stand in one spot for 10 days.

 

I was also having an issue with the General Stats CTD. I fixed it by spamming some destruction spells. I think the problem was that I was using a mod based spell to change settings, like Dynavision. or maybe even the stuff from Frostbite. Anyway, some of the mod spells like that, especially the ones to change mod settings, sometimes don't have a "school" of magic attached to them. I believe that whatever spell became my "favorite" was from a mod, and that it did not have a school of magic. So, I think that messed up my General Stats. I never removed any mods or anything I was using prior that would have become a favorite, so that wasn't the case either. Just my thoughts on the subject. If anyone else has a similar problem, fear not, just spam away, and waste a bunch of magicka pots.

Edited April 30, 2012 by vitalsine

[vitalsine]

I managed to fix the problem on my computer. I used http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=89. What I did was I activated the 1 day re-spawn mod first, turned off all autosaving on my settings, then slept for 2 days. Only needed one but I did two to be safe. After that I saved and exited the game. Then I installed http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=4528 to try and keep my save from building up again. Doing that re-spawn thing dropped my save a few hundred KB right away, so it defiantly cleared some stuff out. Since then I have not crashed once, and have actually noticed the game is a bit smoother with these mods activated. Faster re-spawn on cells, and possessive corpses cleans up the messes. Hope this works for you and anyone else having this issue.

[tVEC]

Hey,

 

Yea I thought I had the (for me) Karthwasten bug fixed last week- because after deactivating a fire sound mod everything seemed to load and work fine- no freezes or crash.

 

Then yesterday, I was coming on to the hunting camp on the way from Riverhold to Helgen, thinking about how I haven't crashed in a while. Then I crashed. It's very ODD, I always sense the crash before it happens.

 

Save loads in Karthwasten hang again, fine everywhere else, but sometimes the Karthwasten saves load- about 10% of the time. Magic in the area usually triggers a freeze, not a crash.

 

Anyway, that area outside Riverhold has caused problems for me before, same symptoms as Karthwasten. Going to try your fix!

 

 

 

Update: Fix did not work for me, I thought it would but my problem must be different. I then started a new game and fast traveled to Karthwasten as soon as I got out of Helgen- and it would not finish loading.

 

So I'm stumped.

Edited May 4, 2012 by tVEC

[Lunyra]

I got the same issue in that Zone at the moment.

 

My character is Level 32 at the moment and since i started i havn't had a single CTD or Freeze.

 

Yesterday i was gonna do some quests in the area and went to Karthwasten first, well i thought i was gonna go there. As soon as i reached the crossing up to Karthwasten my game instantly CTDed. I went to browse the Log but it didn't make any sense. So today i been disabling Mods one by one to see if one was causing the issue, but no sigar. Sometimes i can reach into the village and walk around for a while, but in the end it will crash.

[tVEC]

Oh MAN... I had freezing and CTDs in and around Karthwasten today...do a search for Karthwasten freeze and the first result I get is my own post from 18 months ago. :facepalm:

 

Obviously I have a new game, new install, mostly different mods....so it must be something in the game engine. I'd love to hear if anyone still has problems here.

 

I'm using enb 227 with enb boost, and I get 50+ fps and smooth play everywhere else but for Karthwasten and the area between Riverwood and the Guardian Stones. And I have ALWAYS had issues there when using mods.