Negitive comments on mods

[dazzerfong]

Regarding the 'unrealistic' spectrum of armours, despite them not appealing to some person's taste, you have to admit: they are crafted quite brilliantly.

[Aurielius]

Regarding the 'unrealistic' spectrum of armours, despite them not appealing to some person's taste, you have to admit: they are crafted quite brilliantly.

No one holds a gun to your head and forces you to download or use them and yes some show skill in construction even if they are not to my taste.. :whistling:

Edited April 26, 2012 by Aurielius

[Tamujiin]

Regarding the 'unrealistic' spectrum of armours, despite them not appealing to some person's taste, you have to admit: they are crafted quite brilliantly.

No one holds a gun to your head and forces you to download or use them and yes some show skill in construction even if they are not to my taste.. :whistling:

 

very true, some are to my taste and those same mods may not be to your taste, glad folks realize that. i go for that heavy metal (1981 movie) "adult fantasy feel", in my games, because i am an adult and that stuff apeals to me. May not appeal to the next guy though.

Edited April 26, 2012 by tamujiin

[grannywils]

In a sense it seems we are almost getting a little bit off topic here; or maybe I just misunderstood the topic.

 

There are mods of all different types. For example, if you are looking for an armor mod and you happen upon one that is obviously not to your taste, i.e. too skimpy or not skimpy enough, you can simply bypass it. Case closed. No need for commenting at all, one way or the other. That seems fairly obvious to me.

 

On the other hand if you come across an armor mod that you do like and you download it, and it has some sort of a negative impact on your game or does not appear to work in the way that it was intended, you might want to either mention it to the modder or at least question him or her to determine if you might have done something incorrectly in your installation.

 

In any event, I believe that all communication with the modder needs to be polite and non-abusive, as he or she has taken a great deal of time in an attempt to provide us with something for our enjoyment. Just rudely attacking someone is pointless and non-productive. Not to mention the fact that it certainly make you look like a butt... :whistling:

[HeyYou]

In a sense it seems we are almost getting a little bit off topic here; or maybe I just misunderstood the topic.

 

There are mods of all different types. For example, if you are looking for an armor mod and you happen upon one that is obviously not to your taste, i.e. too skimpy or not skimpy enough, you can simply bypass it. Case closed. No need for commenting at all, one way or the other. That seems fairly obvious to me.

 

On the other hand if you come across an armor mod that you do like and you download it, and it has some sort of a negative impact on your game or does not appear to work in the way that it was intended, you might want to either mention it to the modder or at least question him or her to determine if you might have done something incorrectly in your installation.

 

In any event, I believe that all communication with the modder needs to be polite and non-abusive, as he or she has taken a great deal of time in an attempt to provide us with something for our enjoyment. Just rudely attacking someone is pointless and non-productive. Not to mention the fact that it certainly make you look like a butt... :whistling:

 

I completely agree with you. Now, if everyone would actually DO that...... we would have no need for the report button, or, for mods to give folks the boot for being.... erm.... butts...... :D Oh well. Not gonna hold my breath.

[Syco21]

When I say that some modders need to toughen up, what I mean is that they should report troll comments and move on.

 

I recall a modder once going crazy and deleting her mods multiple times, throwing temper tantrums and generally acting like a child. All because the same group of people trolling her mods. They were make sexuality mods and she was very vocal about her dislike of female sexuality mods due to the lack of make sexuality mods.

 

What I found childish about her rants and ravings, was just the way she went about it. She entirely ignored her fans and constantly acted like she was being victimized by everyone. When she deleted her work, it was so she could play the martyr. She just wanted the attention.

 

She annoyed me quite a bit because of that. People actually were massive douchbags toward her. She was also highly skilled, so a lot of people sucked up to her. That also annoyed me.

[Moveing]

Im going to say it like this, how many people have left the modding scene because of negative comment?

I can't remember anyone.

 

 

And lets be mature and face things like they are. There is no quality standart and many, many, many mods just sucks. Never got bored of this "Hey there is a new weapon with wrong texture path so i call it a mod" stuff? This sucks, and everyone who thing it sucks should call out.

[ginnyfizz]

Erm...no, Moveing. That is precisely the problem. A mod may "suck" - in your opinion. It does not necessarily make it a bad mod just because it is not to your taste, and it is against the forum rules to shout out and simply troll.

 

If a mod does have issues, such as a wrong texture path, it is legitimate to point that out - politely, with an explanation why if you are able. "I'm sorry to say but the textures are not appearing in game because they are in the wrong path, it should be X...". I remember in the early days of race mods in Oblivion suggesting to some modders of my acquaintance that it might be good for their new races to have their eye meshes and textures in separate folders to avoid interfering with vanilla races. No-one took exception to that because it saved the modders a lot of work fixing googly eye issues.

 

It really riles me when I see modders trolled by people who have self evidently not followed the instructions and who have no knowledge of how to manually mod their game and how to fix issues. I get asked to beta test because I do. I love using the mod managers, Wrye Bash, BOSS, etc, etc, but I strongly believe that you also need to look at and understand what you are installing. If you do, then when you say to a modder "Hey mate, there's a problem..." without trolling, please note, then you will be listened to.

[Tamujiin]

As the creator of this thread, i greatly apprecitate what ginny just said, for future reference, please, keep your personal opinions about mods, mod authors ect, to yourself, and debate the subject, dont say "a lot of mods suck" or state "i was friends with this author but he left" that is not what this thread is about, it is to debate why people have to make stupid comments on someones work, even if it has problems. Trying to get people to play nice here, and if your going to make comments like that , please do not comment here, move on.... Not here to debate if a lot of mods suck, or why authors left, or if a lot of mods are good, thats left up to the user, and an opinion that should be left out of the debate, an probably off the site.

 

Some things people should know, mods dont work with other mods a lot of times, you cant mash 255 mods together and expect that everything will work. In order to be a pro, like a lot of the veterans here like me, it takes time, patience, and "intelligence", a lot of trouble shooting, and a few re-installs. a lot of people dont get that. down there by the picture of Ghengis Khan holding the Bow up, thats what i mean by going nuts, and a lot of people do that.

 

I help people, because I used to be a new person, and i came off like an idiot, im sure Bben46 remembers that, but after taking the time to learn it, im a PRO, and i help people out when i can. a lot, because i think in this sense: I was a new person once, and seriously, i know a lot, and if i can share that with somebody with an effort to learn they can be a pro too, and it only makes the community stronger. I dont care about peoples opinion on helping some one out, im going to do it, im nice. so lets not debate that either.

 

I wont help people that make idiot comments off the bat, because obviously there intelligence shows through and wont be around for long. If i can change someones attitude by helping and they learn from that it "may be" benefitial to the community, because we may have the next guy that makes an MMM or OOO type mod.

But idiot comments, i know get you nowhere around here, (and get you nowhere with me). After that, its staff that deals with you, and they don't hesitate to use that ban hammer a lot of times.

 

Here is another point of view...

 

When you go off in frustration, and say "this mod sucks" (example) it shows me one of two things off the bat, 1. you didn't read the read me. or 2. The mod has "issues" that can be worked on, nobody should ever degrade someone for trying, even if they're mod does suck, because at least they tried. And of the majority of users, and i am sure staff would agree, that make comments that are no good, probably don't even know how to either 1. install the mod or 2. Make a mod and upload it. In my opinion, and i'm a little crabby today :P is that if your not going to put forth any effort and try yourself, you have no right to complain, and you should just move on and not to do any of this.

[HeyYou]

Fully 90% of mod problems result from bad installs. Of course, there are some that view this as the modders fault.... even though said mod user didn't read the documentation that comes with the mod, for the correct installation instructions.

 

One modder I am aware of went so far as to put a 'switch' in one of his scripts, that you had to change a setting in the ini, else the mod wouldn't work. Said change was specifically stated in the readme. The sheer volume of folks that stated "It don't work, you suck" were 99% because they didn't read the readme...... and the modder took a LOT of flak for that......