WHY?!? CTD lameness...

[mayhew2070]

So, it's making no sense at all. I do everything just right, my load order (to the best of my knowledge looks right, so please double check), no overheating, no over encumbrance of hardware, no justification for why this is happening:

 

[Fallout 4 has stopped working. Click here to close the Program]

 

As seen in this picture the hardware is not over-stressed. Top left screen Guide to the numbers according to MSI afterburner:

 

GPU: Temp/USAGE (The Usage is Void, and I have no problems with it @100, because this is an overclock)

MEM: Video

CPU: Temp

CPU: Usage

Memory Ram: Hard Memory/Memory Page File Usage

Direct Version: FPS

 

 

Computer Hardware/Software Specifications:
-AMD FX8370
-Nvidia 750ti FTW
-MSI 970 Gaming Motherboard/ integrated sound
-32 GB/s Memory 1866hz
-16GB/s Virtual Memory Page-File
-Window 7 64bit Pro

-EVGA 1000w Gold Series (plugged into direct surge/not surge/battery)

>Note on Power: I read several hours of documents, and found that if you plug your pc into a surge battery slot that it actually lowers your power outcome of your pc. This fixed my issue that I had with a new FX CPU that kept wiggin' out my motherboard/gpu. You know.... that endles beep loop that would make you pick up a FatMan and end it all.. lol.

 

Third Party Programs:

-MSI Afterburner (Overclock at 75% core/memory w/power optimal preference)
-FO4SE (always up to date)
-ENB (vanilla file no preset for performance)
-LOOT (updated masterlist)

 

 

Texture loose files:

-Seasons Summer Edition v3.3 (I diffused this to a 512 edition because it had a terrible impact on my system. Still looks great as seen in the screenshot.)

 

 

ESM/ESP/ESL Load Order:
0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCWorkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCWorkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCWorkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgsfo4036-trnsdg.esl
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 HUDFramework.esm
10 a SimSettlements.esm
11 b EthreonMasterPlan.esm
12 c TortureDevices.esm
254 FE 1 TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp
13 d Armorsmith Extended.esp
14 e Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
15 f Cleaner Nuka-World Environment.esp
16 10 General Atomics Galleria Clean up Project.esp
17 11 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
18 12 ChrisAnimeEyes.esp
19 13 Eli_Accessories.esp
20 14 DX_Atom_Girl_Outfit.esp
21 15 DX_Atom_Girl_Outfit AE Patch.esp
22 16 Deathclaw Hunter Armor.esp
23 17 Deathclaw Hunter - AWKCR Patch.esp
24 18 Crimsomrider's Immersive Market.esp
25 19 AWCKR-ArmorPaintPatch.esp
26 1a Crafting Workbench.esp
27 1b Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
28 1c Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp
29 1d Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
30 1e Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp
31 1f Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
32 20 Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp
33 21 Clean Water - Clear - ExtraRads.esp
34 22 spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp
35 23 Craftable Adhesives.esp
36 24 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
37 25 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
38 26 CROSS_Cybernetics.esp
39 27 CROSS_Cybernetics_NoRobotFootStepSounds.esp
40 28 DCHorns.esp
41 29 FAR.esp
42 2a Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp
43 2b FemsheppingsPorts_LeahLilithAndKalilies_AWKCR_AE.esp
44 2c g2m_FishFarmBridges.esp
45 2d GunmetalArmorSkins-MetalPack.esp
46 2e CR_OuthouseCollection.esp
47 2f Aluminum_Recipe.esp
48 30 BallisticFiber.esp
49 31 DirtyRadWater_v2.esp
50 32 Fiberoptics_recipe.esp
51 33 Fiberglass_recipe.esp
52 34 K9TacticalHarness.esp
53 35 LegendaryModification.esp
54 36 LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
55 37 LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
56 38 LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
57 39 SettlementLimitSlashedFarHarbor.esp
58 3a SettlementMenuManager.esp
59 3b SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
60 3c Spartan-Calyps.esp
61 3d Stackable Brick Wall Foundations.esp
62 3e FO4 Seasons - Summer - AllDLC.esp
63 3f Survivalist.esp
64 40 Tactical Flashlights.esp
65 41 Tactical Flashlights - Settings.esp
66 42 TroublemakerOutfit.esp
67 43 Starwarzneverchanges.esp
68 44 doubleperkbonusbasic.esp
69 45 EasyHacking.esp
70 46 Fusion core.esp
71 47 LongerPowerLinesInf.esp
72 48 patch_respawn.esp
73 49 SolarPower.esp
74 4a sp_mole_rat_disease_timed.esp
75 4b MaterialSwapFixes.esp
76 4c VendorCaps.esp
77 4d Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
78 4e WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
79 4f WestTekTacticalOptics-AWKCR.esp
80 50 Z51_MDroid_XPLevelingLinearized.esp
81 51 LoweredJetpakAPDrain.esp
82 52 LooksMenu.esp
83 53 LMBTOverlays.esp
84 54 LooksMirror.esp
85 55 Locksmith.esp
86 56 Live Dismemberment - LiebermodeNoHeadshots.esp
87 57 Live Dismemberment - RegularNoHeadshots.esp
88 58 Live Dismemberment - BrutalNoHeadshots.esp
89 59 Acid_Recipe.esp
90 5a Insignificant Object Remover.esp
91 5b HN66-SiriusArmor.esp
92 5c PlasmaSword.esp
93 5d FOC_NCR_Armors.esp
94 5e FOC_NCR_Armors_AWCKR.esp
95 5f MiscHairstyle.esp
96 60 Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp
97 61 LagStealthModul.esp
98 62 QuickTrade.esp
99 63 MTM-NukaVimPowerArmorPaint.esp
100 64 Unique PipBoy.esp
101 65 PlasmaSword_LL.esp
102 66 LegendaryModification Enhanced.esp
103 67 Custom Legendary Modifications Remade.esp
104 68 Wasteland Sniper by Hothtrooper44.esp
105 69 FalloutKensei.esp
106 6a Assaultron PowerArmor DLC Edition.esp
107 6b 200-Far-Harbor-Customs.esp
108 6c WorkshopRearranged.esp
109 6d AdvBubbleTurretSet.esp
110 6e BalconySupports.esp
111 6f nuka_world_settlements.esp
112 70 General Atomics Galleria and Bowling Alley Settlements.esp
113 71 project eba.esp
114 72 UnlockedTrailersProject[uTP]v2.0.esp
115 73 stronger_vanilla_weapons.esp
116 74 collector.esp
117 75 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
118 76 Goodfellow's Goodneighbor Defences.esp
119 77 USSRiptideSettlement.esp
120 78 Goodfellow's Diamond City Defences.esp
121 79 NightstrikerCreatureMod.esp
122 7a Leaders Of The Commonwealth.esp
123 7b starlightwingfix.esp
124 7c SKKFastStart.esp
125 7d powerarmort49.esp
126 7e Crimsomrider's Obedient Concord Group.esp
127 7f ellen.esp
128 80 Abandoned_X-01_PA.esp
129 81 Glock 17&18.esp
130 82 BetterShackBridges.esp
131 83 Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp
132 84 starlightdoorfix.esp
133 85 Sanctuary Raider & Dog Removed.esp
134 86 FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
135 87 FalloutSamurai.esp
136 88 CompVictoria.esp
137 89 DiamondCityAutoClose.esp
138 8a AllConsoleCommands.esp
139 8b strongerRobotsSynthsTurrets.esp
140 8c MoreRobotParts.esp
141 8d Crossbow.esp
142 8e half_level_requirements.esp
143 8f ColtDeltaElite_10mmReplacer v1_1.esp
144 90 Eli Armor Compendium AE Patch.esp
145 91 FahrenheitComp.esp
146 92 STARCORES.esp
147 93 LegendaryModification2LM.esp
148 94 LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp
149 95 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
150 96 Hamed04 Sim Settlements Foundation AddOn.esp
151 97 YogMasterSword.esp
152 98 MasterSword.esp
153 99 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
154 9a ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
155 9b dlc_fh_half_level_requirements.esp
156 9c dlc_half_level_requirements.esp
157 9d quadscrap.esp
158 9e stronger_vanilla_weapons_dlc.esp
159 9f svw_half_level_requirements.esp
160 a0 PCDugBuildAWall.esp
161 a1 ModdableRobotSettlers.esp
162 a2 PCDugWedges.esp
163 a3 LightsaberMod.esp
164 a4 Companion PA.esp
165 a5 DeathclawInfusedCait.esp
166 a6 AS_CraftableInstituteStations.esp
167 a7 Institute Clean.esp
168 a8 InsElevator.esp
169 a9 DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp
170 aa 1nivDX Courser X-92 Power Suit Male.esp
171 ab CBBE.esp
172 ac DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
173 ad DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
174 ae SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
175 af SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
176 b0 SimSettlements_LeaderPack_Gannon_Patches.esp
177 b1 CREAtiveClutter.esp
178 b2 dinoshelf.esp
179 b3 dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp
180 b4 Northland Diggers New.esp
181 b5 CabinInTheWoods.esp
182 b6 woodysWastelandStuff.esp
183 b7 XnjguyFilledMods_AIO.esp
184 b8 GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
185 b9 Sunshine Tiding Wild West.esp
186 ba HostileAviation.esp
187 bb More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
188 bc Cygirl.esp
189 bd HeavyFullMetalSword.esp
190 be OWR2_CraftableDecor.esp
191 bf OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
192 c0 OWR2.esp
193 c1 CRX.esp
194 c2 Banana.esp
195 c3 Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
196 c4 OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
197 c5 OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
198 c6 OWR.esp
199 c7 SettleObjExpandPack.esp
200 c8 NanoSuit.esp
201 c9 NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp
202 ca OA_LootableMaterialsCrates_vanilla_mergedDLC.esp
203 cb Afurn.esp
204 cc Holdup.esp
205 cd VltElevatorDLC.esp
206 ce slootyVaultSuit.esp
207 cf AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

 

Current Custom.ini:

 

[General]
SIntroSequence=0
fChancesToPlayAlternateIntro=0
bBorderRegionsEnabled=0
iNumHWThreads=8*
[Pipboy]
bPipboyDisableFX=1
[Archive]
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
sResourceDataDirsFinal=
iLocationX=0
iLocation Y=0
iLocation X=0
[Camera]
f3rdPersonAimFOV=70.00
fVanityModeMinDist=200.000
fVanityModeMaxDist=400.0000
fPitchZoomOutMaxDist=0.0000
fMinCurrentZoom=0.0000
fMouseWheelZoomSpeed=1.0000
fMouseWheelZoomIncrement=0.1000
f3rdPersonPowerArmorCameraAdjust=0.0000
fOverShoulderMeleeCombatAddY=0.50000
fOverShoulderMeleeCombatPosZ=15.0000
fOverShoulderMeleeCombatPosX=15.0000
fOverShoulderCombatAddY=0.50000
fOverShoulderCombatPosZ=30.000
fOverShoulderCombatPosX=20.000
fOverShoulderPosZ=30.000
fOverShoulderPosX=1.000
f3rdPersonAimDist=30.000
bApplyCameraNodeAnimations=0
[Gameplay]
fPlayerDisableSprintingLoadingCellDistance=0
[Grass]
iMinGrassSize=12




I apologize if there was a thread on here for this, but hopefully someone can make sense of my problem. ~thank you for reading.

Edited April 24, 2018 by daroule1982

[bbiller]

One thing I'd suggest: check where you have Scap Everything. That prefers to be near the bottom of the list. I do have it myself so where I have it (see my Need Some Help and Issues with Some Tools post, page 2 near the bottom for a good imported load order) should be about where you should, too. I do know that there have been issues with some stuff due to a shelf mod (Dino Shelf is in that list) though your load order looks like it's not following the general load order guide on bethesda.net (I'd fix that if things are out of general place, as that may clear some things up).

 

Aside from those issues, I don't see any other glarring issues, so once those are fixed, that should take care of the CTD's.

[payl0ad]

I have the distinct feeling that this type of crash is not actually caused by the game doing something specific. Whenever I had that it was a clean, instant CTD without error message. I have had FO4 crash my video driver too, but that resulted in a freeze of Windows' display manager (had to soft reboot).

 

That means there could be issues not confined to the game. Do you get weird application behavior with other highly memory intensive applications, crashes perhaps? If so, that's likely an issue with your RAM (at 32 GByte that's probably split up across 4 modules, so even higher chance of having a faulty piece of hardware). I'd run memtest86+ over night just to be sure.

 

How often does this happen? Does it happen more frequently in specific gameplay scenarios?

[mayhew2070]

One thing I'd suggest: check where you have Scap Everything. That prefers to be near the bottom of the list. I do have it myself so where I have it (see my Need Some Help and Issues with Some Tools post, page 2 near the bottom for a good imported load order) should be about where you should, too. I do know that there have been issues with some stuff due to a shelf mod (Dino Shelf is in that list) though your load order looks like it's not following the general load order guide on bethesda.net (I'd fix that if things are out of general place, as that may clear some things up).

 

Aside from those issues, I don't see any other glarring issues, so once those are fixed, that should take care of the CTD's.

 

 

 

Oh don't I feel silly. Here's a direct quote from Scrap's Webpage:

 

Nexus Mod Manager/Mod Organizer: Download the file and add it to your mod manager of choice. For NMM, use the "Add Mod From File" button (it looks like a green + sign in the "Mods" tab). For Mod Organizer <TO BE ADDED>. Then simply install the mod, make sure it's enabled (AND LAST) in your load order, and play!

 

That might be part of it. I usually take LOOT, and let it do everything. Yes, my LOOT is up to date. I install the other mods that the mod pages say that need to be in last after all that. What is weird though, is that, I played for like 6 hours (just after this post) with no issues just by starting back up on the same save. Kind of one of those hit and miss things. Anyway, thank you. This does help.

 

If anyone else has suggestions on this load order please feel free to comment!

Edited April 24, 2018 by daroule1982

[mayhew2070]

I have the distinct feeling that this type of crash is not actually caused by the game doing something specific. Whenever I had that it was a clean, instant CTD without error message. I have had FO4 crash my video driver too, but that resulted in a freeze of Windows' display manager (had to soft reboot).

 

That means there could be issues not confined to the game. Do you get weird application behavior with other highly memory intensive applications, crashes perhaps? If so, that's likely an issue with your RAM (at 32 GByte that's probably split up across 4 modules, so even higher chance of having a faulty piece of hardware). I'd run memtest86+ over night just to be sure.

 

How often does this happen? Does it happen more frequently in specific gameplay scenarios?

None. None what so ever. Only Fallout 4. I can run FarCry Primal, WoW, ESO, and a multitude of several graphics intense applications. I have had those issues, but downloaded MSI afterburner, monitor it closely now, and lowered certain settings... those went away unless I download a mod implementing a ton of HQ items (all in one small area at the same time) congests my VRAM. Anyway.... I don't have that issue since I overclocked my card by 75 % core/memory. I also used to have the problem you are talking about when I turned off my pagefile to my memory.... I read somewhere that is a very naughty idea.

Edited April 23, 2018 by daroule1982

[bill8872]

Scrap Everything dose not have to be last . I have several Custom settlement mods Scrap Everything conflicts with the Pipboy settlement location. So I have to pace them below Scrap Everything.

Edited April 24, 2018 by bill8872

[mayhew2070]

Scrap Everything dose not have to be last . I have several Custom settlement mods Scrap Everything conflicts with the Pipboy settlement location. So I have to pace them below Scrap Everything.

Not completely last, but close to last. I found this Load list thread insightful:

https://bethesda.net/community/topic/57726/updated-load-order-faq-and-assistance-thread-post-1-10-patch :thumbsup:

[bill8872]

I been following a different list, plus a guide a posted on a mod page, but it dose follow that general order.

[mayhew2070]

I think it maybe to just having too many mods running at once. I froze yesterday without even a prompt, awaited 3 minutes for it to stop stalling, and no dice.