Long Load for PC

[mrm1676]

I have asked this question of other mod makers and am trying to find the source of the problem... Does this mod have anything to do with having really large save files? Every time I have to load an area or save it takes 1m 38 sec- 1m 42sec. It didn't use to be this way. Maybe loads took 5 seconds. I am playing on a PC and everything I look up people always automatically assume it is hardware issue. Well if other games are running fine it is not a hardware issue.

 

I just installed many mods before this happened and also made sure it can run with 4gb of RAM. So my theory is it is one or the other. These are the mods I run with BOSS reporting no conflicts:

 

1- Imps more complex needs

2- Apachii hair

3- Jaysus Swords

4- Hideout

5- Retreat

6- Frostfall

7- Sounds of Skyrim Dungeons

8- Sounds of Skyrim Wilds

9- Realistic Lighting

10- Static Mesh Imporvement

11- Lore Friendly Armors

12- Smithing Perk Overhauls

13- Weapons and Armor Fixes

14- Complete Crafting Overhaul

15- Rich Merchants

16- Midas Magic

17- Deadly Combat

18- DynaVision

19- Dual Wield Blocking Animation

20- Dual Wield Parry

21- UFO

22- Torches For Realistic Lighting

23- Cloaks of Skyrim

24- Deadly Dragons

25- Deadly Dragons Armor

26- Advanced Kill Moves

27- WATER

 

Now you may say holy s*** that is a lot of mods but honestly these mods are not always active. For instance Frostfall and IMCN are always running. If you guys see a problem let me know please. It is really unbearable to try to get to an NPC inside have to wait 1m 40sec to load talk to them for less than 1m then have to head out the door and load for another 1m 40sec. It happens with sleeping, waiting, fast travel, saving.... It is becoming unplayable, I find myself going GOD mode just because I am tired of dieing and having to wait to load the save...

 

 

I have 2 characters now. 1 was created before the patch the other was created after the patch and mods were added. My first character is at level 43 and its save file is only 13.9mb. My second character is at level 24 and its save file is 31.8mb. I expected there to be some difference between the two since mods were added but this is a large difference.

[Georgiegril]

I have a lot of the same mods you do and over 30, so I don't think the number you have is the issue, but maybe mod conflict or load order?

 

I had a problem for a bit with super long loads, and it turned out to be a particular mod I had added (not one of the ones you have, sorry).

 

Can you think back to when it was working properly and try uninstalling the mods that you added just before the problem appeared?

 

The only other thing I notice is that my deadly dragons is much higher on the load order, above UFO and my player abode mods. Not whether that is important or related to you issue.

 

Hope some of this helps!

[mrm1676]

Someone suggested it could be Dynavision I can confirm that Dynavision is not the issue as I took it out and still am having problems.

 

According to the BOSS application for load order:

 

1. 
    
   
2. Skyrim.esm Active
   
3. Update.esm Active
   
4. Imp's More Complex Needs.esm Active
   
5. JSwords.esm Active
   
6. hideout.esm Active
   
7. retreat.esm Active
   
8. ApachiiHair.esm Active
   
9. Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
   
10. SoS - The Dungeons.esp Active
    
11. SoS - The Wilds.esp Active
    
12. Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active
    
13. Natural Skyrim Rain.esp Active
    
14. Realistic Lighting.esp Active
    
15. StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
    
16. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
    
17. Cloaks - No Imperial.esp Active
    
18. Cloaks.esp Active
    
19. Cloaks - Player Only.esp Active
    
20. JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Active
    
21. LFArmors.esp Active
    
22. Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Active
    
23. Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active
    
24. Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active
    
25. Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes
    
26. DeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    
27. DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active
    
28. WATER.esp Active
    
29. WATER - Get Wet.esp Active
    
30. torches for RL (happy medium).esp Active
    
31. IMCN - Overrides.esp Active
    
32. MidasSkyrim.esp Active
    
33. QuickShouts.esp Active
    
34. DeadlyCombat.esp Active
    
35. Dual Wield Parrying_ScriptDragon.esp Active
    
36. Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks.esp Active
    
37. Dual Wield Parrying_LeftHand.esp Active
    
38. Dual Wield Parrying_DualPowerAttack.esp Active
    
39. Dual Wield Parrying_DualAttack.esp Active
    
40. AdvancedKillMoves.esp Active
    
41. UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load, save and install UFO
    

 

So, only a few things are out of it's suggested order but that doesn't mean that is the issue. I can try to reorder them to the suggested one and see if there is any impact although I highly doubt it.

Edited April 29, 2012 by mrm1676

[Georgiegril]

Finding mod conflicts can be a beast! Hope you get it going.

[Georgiegril]

Another thing, you probably already tried...have you verified your game cache? That has also helped me in the past. And I still forget to try it!

[mrm1676]

I do not know how to "verify game cache". I might have and just don't know it....

 

Another thing, I just messed around with the Skyrim.ini file to see if it would help...

 

[Papyrus]
iMinMemoryPageSize=100000
iMaxMemoryPageSize=5000000
iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=1800000000

 

 

I added that and now my load times are only ~10 seconds long. I want to know what this does before I say I fixed the issue....

 

I am also wary about messing with the config files but this is what I have in my Skyrim.ini file...:

[Display]
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+"
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=1
[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=0
bReflectLODLand=1
bReflectSky=0
bReflectLODTrees=0
[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
[Papyrus]
iMinMemoryPageSize=100000
iMaxMemoryPageSize=5000000
iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=1800000000

 

I know there are a s*** ton of templates for these .ini's but I wish there were some that came highly recommended. I know you are going to ask too:

 

Specs:

Windows 7 64bit
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+
Processor	Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8400  @ 3.00GHz, 2667 Mhz
4GB RAM

[JarlWilhelm]

If you have used BSAOpt to extract the graphics or sound from a bsa file, the game will load these instead of using the bsa. It takes the game and CK a lot longer to load these for some reason, so suggest moving to a different directory while they're not in use. Or if any installed MOD added any new directories to the DATA folder ie: Meshes and Sound, That will also cause a bit of a slowdown. Edited April 30, 2012 by JarlWilhelm

[kevkiev]

I do not know how to "verify game cache". I might have and just don't know it....

 

In your steam game library, right click on your game then click "properties" then, under the "local files" tab, click "verify integrity of game cache". Steam will DL any files that you may be missing in your game folder. (Had to do this a TON with FONV, not so much of a problem with skyrim, though it did help me out a couple times.)