Oblivion Crash on The Anvil Docks.

[FerrFerr]

So yeah, I got a crash in the Anvil Docks.

Im using big mods like Better cities, Unique Landscapes, Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul, Elsweyr Anequina (the one in the Assimilation Lab forums) and Waalx animals and Creatures, between other quest mods like Order of the Dragon, The Lost Spires and Integration The Stranded Light , also Cobl, but this crash was happening before I installed cobl.

I used Oblivion Reloaded with its Memory Management (which has been a godsend so far), OSR (with TcMallor and 760MB as heap replacement), and EngineBugFixes.
The OR Memory Management makes such as Enboost and MoreHeap redundant. At first I thought it was the game just not handling all the overload in the Anvil bay, since that games is quite FPS unfriendly, but for me I always found that weird cus I can handle the Imperial Waterfront without crash which is way more taxing than the Anvil bay.

So then I found the exact spot where oblivion crashes, and its the gate to the Anvil's Castle Courtyard, you know that gate you enter in right after the bridge to the Anvil castle?

Yeah its that spot, and the exact crash happens when I go from the castle's Courtyard to the anvil bay, It just loads a see like just one frame of the game then it freezes and crashes. And it always crashes there, no matter how much I played the game, after loading the world it always crashes when i go out from that door.

So There's probably something that causes the game to crash, maybe a bad mod or a conflict?.

Here's the mod list if you wonder:

Active Mod Files:

^{• 00 Oblivion.esm}

^{• 01 TR_OoT_Main.esm}

^{• 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.37]}

^{• 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.74]}

^{• 04 Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm}

^{• 05 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 6.0.8]}

^{• 06 bookplacing.esm [Version 1]}

^{• 07 Knights - Revelation.esm}

^{• 08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.5]}

^{• 09 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]}

^{• 0A Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp}

^{• 0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp}

^{• 0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9]}

^{• 0D Better Cities .esp [Version 6.0.5]}

^{• 0E All Natural.esp [Version 1.37]}

^{• 0F All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.37]}

^{• 10 GOSH.esp}

^{• 11 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.37]}

^{• 12 Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp}

^{• 13 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]}

^{• 14 DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp}

^{• 15 kuerteeCleanUp.esp}

^{• 16 OblivionReloaded.esp}

^{• 17 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]}

^{• 18 DLCHorseArmor.esp}

^{• 19 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]}

^{• 1A DLCOrrery.esp}

^{• 1B DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]}

^{• 1C DLCVileLair.esp}

^{• 1D DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]}

^{• 1E DLCMehrunesRazor.esp}

^{• 1F DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]}

^{• 20 DLCSpellTomes.esp}

^{• ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]}

^{• 21 Book Jackets DLC.esp}

^{• 22 GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp}

^{• 23 Immersive Weapons.esp}

^{• 24 DLCThievesDen.esp}

^{• 25 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15]}

^{• 26 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14]}

^{• 27 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]}

^{• 28 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]}

^{• ++ Cobl Tweaks - SI.esp}

^{• ++ BMEnchantmentRebalance.esp}

^{• 29 WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0b.esp}

^{• 2A WAC.esp}

^{• 2B WAC - Gladiator.esp}

^{• ++ WAC Gargoyles Fix.esp}

^{• ++ WAC - HGEC Equipment Replacer.esp}

^{• ++ WAC - No Custom Races.esp}

^{• 2C Orden des Drachen.esp [Version 2016]}

^{• 2D ODD Map Addon.esp}

^{• 2E ODD Map Icon Markers FastTravel.esp}

^{• 2F Cardac.esp}

^{• 30 Fighters Guild Quests.esp}

^{• 31 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp}

^{• 32 KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp}

^{• 33 Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp}

^{• 34 TR_Stirk.esp}

^{• 35 Stirk_Compatibility_Patch.esp [Version 1.4]}

^{• 36 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp}

^{• 37 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12]}

^{• 38 DLCFrostcrag.esp}

^{• 39 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]}

^{• 3A Knights.esp}

^{• 3B Knights - Book Jackets.esp}

^{• 3C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8]}

^{• 3D Knights - Revelation.esp}

^{• 3E The Lost Spires.esp}

^{• 3F AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.32.Non-COBL]}

^{• 40 Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp [Version 2.2]}

^{• 41 MannimarcoComplete.esp}

^{• 42 MannimarcoRevisited.esp}

^{• 43 ElsweyrAnequina.esp}

^{• 44 ReclaimSancreTor.esp [Version 1.0.5]}

^{• 45 Kragenir'sDeathQuest-RSTpatch.esp [Version 1.1]}

^{• 46 Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.11]}

^{• 47 Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp [Version 2.0]}

^{• 48 Gottshaw Village.esp [Version 1.0.1]}

^{• 49 Reedstand.esp [Version 1.0.4]}

^{• 4A ShezriesTownsMaster.esp}

^{• 4B Cardac-ShezriesTowns Patch.esp}

^{• 4C LostSpires+PellsGate Patch.esp [Version 1.0]}

^{• 4D AFK_Weye Arrius_Creek Patch.esp}

^{• 4E Snowdale - Fighters Guild Quests Patch.esp}

^{• 4F Unique Landscapes.esp [Version 2.1.0BC]}

^{• 50 bartholm.esp}

^{• 51 bartholm - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]}

^{• 52 Frostcrag Village.esp [Version 1.0.7]}

^{• 53 ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp}

^{• 54 Sutch Village.esp [Version 1.0.4]}

^{• 55 SutchUnificationPatch.esp}

^{• 56 ULE WAC-DarkForest patch.esp}

^{• 57 ULE Anequina-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp [Version 1.1]}

^{• 58 ULM SutchVillage-LostCoast patch.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 59 ULM ShezriesTowns-CloudtopMountains patch.esp [Version 3]}

^{• 5A ULM RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 5B ULM Cardac-ShezriesTowns-AspenWood patch.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 5C ULM ReclaimingSancreTor-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 5D ULE LostSpires-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 5E ULM OrdenDesDrachen-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 5F JMC - Layer 1b.esp}

^{• 60 ULE KragenirsDeathQuest-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp [Version 2.1]}

^{• 61 ULM MannimarcoResurrection-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 62 Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0]}

^{• 63 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]}

^{• ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]}

^{• ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]}

^{• 64 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]}

^{• ++ Book Placement v2.esp [Version 2.0]}

^{• 65 Better Dungeons.esp}

^{• 66 VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp}

^{• ++ Mass Outfit Redesign.esp}

^{• ++ VCEClassOverhaul.esp}

^{• 67 Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.4.5]}

^{• 68 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]}

^{• 69 Oblivion XP.esp}

^{• 6A Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]}

^{• ++ OCO uses merged teeth.esp}

^{• ++ NPC Hair Matches Beard.esp}

^{• 6B BalancedMagic.esp}

^{• 6C bgIntegrationIntegratedEV.esp [Version 1.0an]}

^{• ++ Integration-OCOpatch.esp}

^{• 6D ElsweyrAnequina - Integration Patch v1.0.esp}

^{• 6E ULM IntegrationIntegratedTheStrandedLight-EasternPeaks patch.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 6F Better Cities Full.esp [Version 6.0.8]}

^{• 70 Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp [Version 6.0.8]}

^{• 71 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 6.0.8]}

^{• 72 All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp}

^{• 73 Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 6.0.4]}

^{• 74 Better Cities - Chorrol Chapel Fewer Lights.esp}

^{• 75 xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 76 Better Cities Chorrol - ODD patch.esp [Version 6.0.0]}

^{• 77 Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 6.0.7]}

^{• 78 Better Cities Chorrol - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp [Version 6.0.4]}

^{• 79 Better Cities IC Arena - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp [Version 6.0.0]}

^{• 7A Better Cities Skingrad - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp [Version 6.0.0]}

^{• 7B Better Cities IC Arena - WAC Gladiator.esp [Version 6.0.4]}

^{• 7C Better Cities IC Arboretum - Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [Version 6.0.7]}

^{• 7D ULM BetterCities-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp [Version 2]}

^{• 7E BICFull_OotD_Patch.esp}

^{• 7F FGQ-BC6 Patch.esp}

^{• 80 ULM OSPS-BC_IC-II_UL-II_RRLR_Patch.esp [Version 2.1]}

^{• 81 Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 6.0.7]}

^{• ++ Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 6.0.4]}

^{• ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]}

^{• • • All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.37]}

^{• 82 LandMagicPatch.esp}

^{• 83 Bashed Patch, 0.esp}

^{• 84 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.9.1]}

^{• 85 Bashed Patch, 1.esp}

About the bashed patch after MOO, thats just a bashed patch only done to darnify all the books, and MOO includes some books.

Edited May 7, 2018 by rodmax36

[Oblivionaddicted]

What do you use to set your load order?

 

Do you use MessageLogger to get info about your CTD?

[FerrFerr]

What do you use to set your load order?

 

Do you use MessageLogger to get info about your CTD?

I use Boss, then just do some reajustements for some few plugins that are unrecognised by boss, there are 2, a patch that fixes a terrain problem between elsweyr anequina and Integration near Rimmen, and the other one is a compatibility patch between Region Rumare, Unique Landscapes and the Expanded Imperial City isle that Better cities adds.

 

Going to try that MessageLogger to see if something is just not working right on the anvil docks.

 

Edit: well it seems its the area around the Anvil castle that causes the crashes, and its only when I go from an interior cell to there. say for example, if I go out of the castle's courtyard to the docks or from the city gate to the bridge towards the castle.

 

also the navmeshes seem to be broken, npcs getting stuck in objects or some guards swimming rather than using the bridge or roads. There's a sea elf too from Integration the stranded light, walking to a wall from a bridge (one of the bridges that lead to a guard tower just to the side of the anvil castle)

 

Still don't know what can cause the crash there, its the only place so far I can get a crash this fast in less than a minute, even in the laggiest place in the game, the waterfront, it doesnt crash. And most of my crashes are after 3 to more hours of gameplay, not seconds.

 

The MessageLog is created, however I dont know exactly which errors are to take seriously and which others not.

Edited May 7, 2018 by rodmax36

[Oblivionaddicted]

Except if I'm wrong rhe most relevant infos are those you get a the CTD time especially if the same one always comes back.

 

And no Messagelogger's infos aren't alays easy to understand.

 

You can always disable a bunch of mods, play and check if the problem remains.

[FerrFerr]

Well I've been experimenting, so Far Integration, Knights of the Nine Revelations, Kagrenir's Death Quest, Order of the Dragon and Reclaiming sancre Tor aren't the mods conflicting.

Still the same on anvil, I've also noticed some enemies spawn inside the castle walls and and City walls, making them impossible to kill unless you use the TCL command or go to an interior cell.

Maybe the anvil docks are already buggy with just Better cities alone?
However, I think I found the culprit in this whole crashing mess, and I think, its the ship that you can buy.

Since well, this is the only place where I get a crash that isn't for playing too long, and Anvil is the only place on better cities that adds a ship that you can control.
I do wonder If i have a mod that can conflict with that ship.