Black Water (Water without texture/black texture)

[JoyDoll]

Since not long ago I have been starting having issues with black water with no reflections. This black water appears mostly on the open world. I remember that the "empire company warehouse" dungeon has normal water with blueish color (as it should be).

 

My notebook has:

i3 1.7 ghz, 2 cores, 4 threads

8 gb ram ddr3

geforce 820m 2gb

win 10 version 1803

 

I don't remember the exact moment it all started, but I tried uninstalling the mods and the game and reinstalling it (and modding the game before opening it).

I even started a new game, but that didn't help.

 

Also, I was having issues with ctd, even in this new savegame, but noticed that the crash started when quicksaving and loading it after sexlab was installed, which I could not understand because I'm using enb boost and thats all I needed on previous setups I had with sex mods to not get CTDs. Still, the crashes didn´t were too constant so I kept playing my old savegame (which didn´t crashed never before, when using enb boost that is).

 

So, the issue with the black water started before my actual setup of the game and mods, and before the tweaks Im going to mention now.

 

The crashes continued until I tried to fix the "enb boost" (mod) I'm using. I expanded the memory the enb could use from my video card, from 256 to 512mb. That have fixed my CTD issue and even decreased the load times. By the way, I'm not using enb graphical tweaks, only its "speedhack".

 

Here are my mods. I think I must mention that I installed, at some point, on my previous setup, TROPICAL SKYRIM and GREEN SKYRIM (separatedly). I wanted to use tropical skyrim but the monster were parallyzed (yeah I ran the FNIS tool), and green skyrim gave me too low FPS, so on my newer, actual setup of skyrim, I did not install neither of them.

 

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
6 6 Perk-Reset-MCM.esm
7 7 RaceCompatibility.esm
8 8 hdtHighHeel.esm
9 9 BSAssets.esm
10 a BSHeartland.esm
11 b SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
12 c SexLab.esm
13 d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
14 e Heels Sound.esm
15 f SexLabAroused.esm
16 10 HighResTexturePack01.esp
17 11 HighResTexturePack02.esp
18 12 HighResTexturePack03.esp
19 13 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
20 14 RaceMenu.esp
21 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
22 16 SkyUI.esp
23 17 FNIS.esp
24 18 cpkinokopose.esp
25 19 FNIS_PCEA2.esp
26 1a ShakeIt!.esp
27 1b XPMSE.esp
28 1c SkyRE-Patch.esp
29 1d IHSS.esp
30 1e NARC-SkyTEST.esp
31 1f CharmingHighHeels.esp
32 20 redguard_bow.esp
33 21 lilithsLacerator.esp
34 22 Visual Improvement For Absorb Enchantments (2).esp
35 23 SSAssist.esp
36 24 Vivid Weathers.esp
37 25 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
38 26 Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp
39 27 honedmetal.esp
40 28 No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp
41 29 Proper Aiming.esp
42 2a Rebirth Monster.esp
43 2b LPBards.esp
44 2c KS Hairdo's.esp
45 2d Blowing in the Wind.esp
46 2e Neithteam Warpaint.esp
47 2f BSHeartland - Meshes.esp
48 30 BSHeartland - Textures.esp
49 31 The Ningheim.esp
50 32 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
51 33 SBF All In One + DLC.esp
52 34 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
53 35 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
54 36 Rifle.esp
55 37 HDT Havok Object.esp
56 38 UIExtensions.esp
57 39 AddItemMenu.esp
58 3a 12FemaleBrows.esp
59 3b NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp
60 3c RailLight.esp
61 3d SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
62 3e KS Jewelry.esp
63 3f KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
64 40 Armor Depravity Chsbhc V3 T.esp
65 41 TavernGames.esp
66 42 Nyotengu Gust Mashup Swimwear.esp
67 43 Cre_FF_Tifa.esp
68 44 [NINI] Death Lady.esp
69 45 [NINI] Dragon Rises.esp
70 46 ElysiumEstate.esp
71 47 fantasy music overhaul.esp
72 48 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp
73 49 ModernHouseMod.esp
74 4a Unicorn.esp
75 4b Solar's Portable Crafting.esp
76 4c SexLab Romance.esp
77 4d Insignificant Object Remover.esp
78 4e Vampire and Werewolf Potions DG.esp
79 4f iNeed.esp
80 50 Quick Start - Skip the Opening Sequence.esp
81 51 CSO2_Gears.esp
82 52 Cuteunitized Twohanded Dawnbreaker.esp
83 53 Auriel's Divine Bow.esp
84 54 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp

 

 

Also, I must mention that I didn't delete the skyrim.ini between my former and actual setup of skyrim, so I'm going to insert it in case there is something wrong with it.

 

 

[General]
sLanguage=SPANISH

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

[Display]
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
bAllowScreenshot=1

[Audio]
fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0
fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0
fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0
fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

[Grass]
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0

[GeneralWarnings]
SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

[Combat]
fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=1000.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0
[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=0
bReflectLODLand=0
bReflectSky=0
bReflectLODTrees=0

 

 

The fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS was modified by myself, on my attempts to fix the CTD issue. Originally it was 500 I think.

The reflections on [Water] I tried enabling them separatedly and together but in game there are no reflections no matter what, so I disabled them all just in case of performance increase.

 

Here is my config.ini which I tweaked too to get more nitid shadows without much performance loss.

 

 

[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
fBrightLightColorR=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
[imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
iRadialBlurLevel=1
[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=2
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=4000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
iShadowSplitCount=2
iMaxAnisotropy=4
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=3600.0000
fGamma=1.0000
fDecalLOD2=1500.0000
fDecalLOD1=1000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=1400.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODStartFade=3000.0000
iTexMipMapMinimum=0
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=0
iShadowMode=3
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=0
bFull Screen=1
iSize H=768
iSize W=1366
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096.0000
iScreenShotIndex=38
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=10
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=30
bFloatPointRenderTarget=1
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GT 820M"
bFXAAEnabled=1
iShadowMapResolution=1024
fShadowBiasScale=1.0000
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
iAdapter=0
iPresentInterval=1
iShadowFilter=3
bShadowsOnGrass=1
bTransparencyMultisampling=0
bDeferredShadows=1
bDrawShadows=1
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=0
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000
[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.0000
bSaveOnPause=0
bSaveOnTravel=0
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2
[interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=1
bGeneralSubtitles=0
fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000
bShowCompass=1
[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=1
bMouseAcceleration=1
bUseKinect=0
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[saveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=60.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=721575139
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=606530300
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=606530301
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=606530302
fVal3=1.0000
uID3=94881
fVal2=0.7500
uID2=466532
fVal1=1.0000
uID1=554685
fVal0=0.8000
uID0=1007612
[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000
[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=75000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=70000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=35000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000
bShowLODInEditor=0
[NavMesh]
fObstacleAlpha=0.5000
fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000
fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500
fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000
fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500
fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000
fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000
fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500
fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000
fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000
fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000
fEdgeThickness=10.0000
fPointSize=2.5000
[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20
[Decals]
uMaxDecals=250
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=50
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40
[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=10.5000
fLODFadeOutMultActors=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000
[Launcher]
bEnableFileSelection=1
bShowAllResolutions=1
uLastAspectRatio=3
[blurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1
[blurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0
[Water]
iWaterReflectHeight=512
iWaterReflectWidth=512
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterDepth=1

 

 

Im going to link a video that will explain to you whats going on with my water. It is recorded by me, so you can see that I have no issues with performance.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Law0oikHI

 

The video was recorded before disabling the water reflections. I entered the water so you can see that I don't have that "green water bug" that many people have had.

 

This is my first post asking for help, I couldn't find my problem on any other post. I hope the issue is not biggy.

Edited May 14, 2018 by Siwkann

[Deleted21550714User]

For the love of bouncing taâ¢tas on unicorns, we need help this person. I've never had said problem. I did a quick look and most issues seem to revolve around water and lighting mods conflicting. Don't think that's your problem. Your vivid weather's mcm is showing you have everything for that mod set right? I seen 1 user suggesting the deletion of Skyrim's Shader.bsa, then verifying files through steam to replace it. It worked for atleast 1 user though I don't like verifying files through steam unless I'm in-between play through.

[JoyDoll]

I tried deleting all the hdtextures bsa, dlc bsa, vanilla textures bsa and shader bsa to restore them with file verification, but the water is still black. I also deleted the skyrim.ini and config.ini, but that didn't work either. I also tried uninstalling vivid weather, but that only made the game look uglier; the black water was still there. Also I will add that the water looks black even on the map view. Also, the dungeons water look black too, and deleting the [Water] lines on skyrim.ini doesn't make a difference. Also I must say that the refractions, the reflection of the sun light, do work as intended.

[Deleted21550714User]

You got nothing to lose. Try disabling dlc hi-res pack and do a quick test on a new game. I have never seen anyone suggest using the dlc hi-res pact in fact a lot of people suggest staying away from them. Something to consider even if that dont fix said problem. Also. Install a water mod and place it below vivid weather's. I use Pure Waters, it's good mod

[JoyDoll]

Didn't work u_u. I going to keep hd textures disabled as it gives more performance it seems. Funny is that the pure waters mod made the sun light refractions more detailed and pretty, but still the water is black and with no reflections.

[Deleted21550714User]

It's at least another clue. Hoping someone more knowledgeable will chime in on topic. Right now we're at... Your vanilla water is black. Having Pure Waters installed, still black. I'm on phone, forgive if allready mentioned, what if you start a new game with no mods? Has that been tried?

[JoyDoll]

Well, a week ago I tried starting a new game without disabling the mods.

Now I tried a new game without mods and the water was working with reflections.

So that gave me the idea of start a new game with only some mods enabled, disabling and enabling plugins from the NMM.

Finally I isolated the guilty mod. It was https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70250/ (Modern vampire house)

Thank you very much, though you didn't had the answer (and nobody would), you absolutely helped me figure it out.

 

[Deleted21550714User]

Amazing! Bye-Bye black water. That water now is looking nice.....