If someone could take a minute to take a look at these logs - random CTD

[u2020bullet]

So all of a sudden my game has developed the tendency to crash to desktop.

Now, in the logs i'm about to post, there's mention of Sim Settlements, which i have uninstalled, so i have no idea why they're appearing, in any case, if someone could take a look and see what could be crashing my game, that'd be awesome.

 

Papyrus log:

[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Papyrus log opened (PC-64)
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Cannot open store for class "Overlays", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] error: Native static function Add could find no matching static function on linked type Overlays. Function will not be bound.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] error: Native static function Remove could find no matching static function on linked type Overlays. Function will not be bound.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] error: Native static function set could find no matching static function on linked type Overlays. Function will not be bound.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] error: Native static function Get could find no matching static function on linked type Overlays. Function will not be bound.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] error: Native static function RemoveAll could find no matching static function on linked type Overlays. Function will not be bound.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] error: Native static function GetAll could find no matching static function on linked type Overlays. Function will not be bound.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] error: Native static function Update could find no matching static function on linked type Overlays. Function will not be bound.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] error: Native static function ClearAll could find no matching static function on linked type Overlays. Function will not be bound.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Function Add in the empty state on type Overlays does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Function Remove in the empty state on type Overlays does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Function Set in the empty state on type Overlays does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Function Get in the empty state on type Overlays does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Function RemoveAll in the empty state on type Overlays does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Function GetAll in the empty state on type Overlays does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Function ClearAll in the empty state on type Overlays does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Function Update in the empty state on type Overlays does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 153600 (max total)
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] Maximum stack depth: 100
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:27PM] This is a script log only and does not contain information on any other part of the game, including crashes.
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:28PM] Cannot open store for class "ccRZRFO4001:ccRZRFO4001_SetStageOnTriggerEnter", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:28PM] Cannot open store for class "ccRZRFO4001:ccRZRFO4001_RadioSceneScript", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:28PM] Cannot open store for class "CreationClub:ccAWNFO4001:LeveledListInjectorScript", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:28PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC04:DLC04OperatorsRifleAnimationScript", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:28PM] Cannot open store for class "ccRZRFO4001:ccRZRFO4001_RadioSceneToggleScript", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:31PM] Cannot open store for class "TrueStorms:TrueStorms_SpawnCleanup", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:32PM] Cannot open store for class "hudframework", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:32PM] Cannot open store for class "simsettlements:combinedobjectmanager", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:32PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::CombinedObjectManagerQuest_var" on object "SimSettlements:PuzzleObject_Container"
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:32PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "CombinedObjectManagerQuest" on object "SimSettlements:PuzzleObject_Container"
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:33PM] Cannot open store for class "ts_holotape_questscript", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:33PM] Cannot open store for class "DeconBoothScript", missing file?
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:39PM] error: Property iRequiredExpansions on script simsettlements:cityplan attached to  (0D00837E) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:39PM] warning: Property evanpox_workshopcategory_counters on script evanpoxmkcategoriesinstallerscript attached to evanpox_CategoriesInstaller (1700AFDC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:39PM] error: Property SuccessTopic on script simsettlements:advweaponsp1 attached to kgSIM_AdvWeaponsResearch_P1 (0D0101B3) cannot be bound because <nullptr form> (0D00B78B) is not the right type
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:45PM] VM is freezing...
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:45PM] VM is frozen
[07/20/2018 - 06:13:45PM] Reverting game...
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:07PM] error: Unable to bind script simsettlements:beerrecipe to  (FF00C3BA) because their base types do not match
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:27PM] error: Unable to bind script simsettlements:beerrecipe to  (FF00C3BA) because their base types do not match
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:27PM] Loading game...
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:27PM] error: Property iRequiredExpansions on script simsettlements:cityplan attached to  (0D00837E) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:27PM] warning: Property evanpox_workshopcategory_counters on script evanpoxmkcategoriesinstallerscript attached to evanpox_CategoriesInstaller (1700AFDC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:27PM] error: Property SuccessTopic on script simsettlements:advweaponsp1 attached to kgSIM_AdvWeaponsResearch_P1 (0D0101B3) cannot be bound because <nullptr form> (0D00B78B) is not the right type
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:27PM] warning: Variable ::TS_Holotape_Quest_var on script SimSettlements:TransferSettlementsSupport has an invalid type ts_holotape_questscript loaded from save. This variable will be skipped.
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:27PM] warning: Variable hud on script simsettlements:workshophudscript has an invalid type hudframework loaded from save. This variable will be skipped.
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:28PM] error: Variable object type hudframework is unknown - data will be ignored
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:28PM] error: Unable to load object 0x000001E359C081C0 from save game
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:28PM] error: Variable object type ts_holotape_questscript is unknown - data will be ignored
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:28PM] error: Unable to load object 0x000001E30FC33420 from save game
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:29PM] error: Unable to bind script simsettlements:beerrecipe to Item 1 in container  (00000014) because their base types do not match
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:29PM] error: Unable to bind script simsettlements:beerrecipe to Item 19 in container  (00000014) because their base types do not match
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:29PM] error: Unable to bind script simsettlements:beerrecipe to Item 22 in container  (00000014) because their base types do not match
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:29PM] error: Unable to bind script simsettlements:beerrecipe to Item 23 in container  (00000014) because their base types do not match
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:29PM] error: Unable to bind script simsettlements:beerrecipe to Item 25 in container  (00000014) because their base types do not match
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:29PM] error: Unable to bind script simsettlements:beerrecipe to Item 46 in container  (00000014) because their base types do not match
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:29PM] error: Unable to bind script simsettlements:beerrecipe to Item 68 in container  (00000014) because their base types do not match
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:29PM] Errors occurred while loading the Papyrus save game data
[07/20/2018 - 06:14:34PM] VM is thawing...
[07/20/2018 - 06:15:17PM] SimParent ready for addon registration.

Load order:

  0  0     Fallout4.esm
  1  1     DLCRobot.esm
  2  2     DLCworkshop01.esm
  3  3     DLCCoast.esm
  4  4     DLCworkshop02.esm
  5  5     DLCworkshop03.esm
  6  6     DLCNukaWorld.esm
254 FE   0 ccbgsfo4001-pipboy(black).esl
254 FE   1 ccbgsfo4003-pipboy(camo01).esl
254 FE   2 ccbgsfo4004-pipboy(camo02).esl
254 FE   3 ccbgsfo4006-pipboy(chrome).esl
254 FE   4 ccbgsfo4005-bluecamo.esl
254 FE   5 ccbgsfo4016-prey.esl
254 FE   6 ccbgsfo4025-powerarmorskin(chrome).esl
254 FE   7 ccbgsfo4024-pacamo03.esl
254 FE   8 ccbgsfo4038-horsearmor.esl
254 FE   9 ccgcafo4002-factionws02acat.esl
254 FE   a ccgcafo4003-factionws03bos.esl
254 FE   b ccgcafo4007-factionws07hrflames.esl
254 FE   c ccgcafo4008-factionws08inst.esl
254 FE   d ccgcafo4009-factionws09mm.esl
254 FE   e ccgcafo4012-factionas01acat.esl
254 FE   f ccgcafo4017-factionas06inst.esl
254 FE  10 ccgcafo4018-factionas07mm.esl
254 FE  11 ccgcafo4022-factionas11vt.esl
254 FE  12 ccswkfo4003-pipquan.esl
254 FE  13 ccbgsfo4056-dglabb.esl
254 FE  14 ccbgsfo4036-trnsdg.esl
254 FE  15 ccrzrfo4004-pipinst.esl
254 FE  16 ccrzrfo4003-pipover.esl
  7  7     unofficial fallout 4 patch.esp
  8  8     SettlementKeywords.esm
  9  9     Snap'n Build.esm
 10  a     Homemaker.esm
 11  b     TrueStormsFO4.esm
 12  c     ArmorKeywords.esm
 13  d     Better Manufacturing.esp
 14  e     Snappy_HouseK.esp
 15  f     Snappy_Scrap.esp
 16 10     Decal Stain Remover REDUX - All DLC.esp
 17 11     BreakTheWallsDownNukaWorld.esp
 18 12     BusySettlersRug.esp
 19 13     dinoshelf.esp
 20 14     dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp
 21 15     dinoshelf_retex.esp
 22 16     Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp
 23 17     IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp
 24 18     OCDecorator.esp
 25 19     OCD FarHarborDLC.esp
 26 1a     OCD NukaWorldDLC.esp
 27 1b     OCDecoratorDLC.esp
 28 1c     OCDispenser.esp
 29 1d     SanctuaryParts.esp
 30 1e     SettleObjExpandPack.esp
 31 1f     SettleObjExpandPack-AllLightShadowEnabler.esp
 32 20     SettleObjExpandPack-LightShadowDisabler.esp
 33 21     Snappy_DecoKit.esp
 34 22     Thematic and Practical.esp
 35 23     Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp
 36 24     SnapBeds.esp
 37 25     [Bug fix] enable placing objects on floor - All in one (English).esp
 38 26     ImmersiveScrapping_TidyUp.esp
 39 27     More Pre-War Assets.esp
 40 28     BreakTheWallsDown.esp
 41 29     Snappy_DLC03.esp
 42 2a     BreakTheWallsDownFarHarbor.esp
 43 2b     BreakTheWallsDownVault88.esp
 44 2c     FilledDinerCounters.esp
 45 2d     cartman1975_warehouse.esp
 46 2e     More Pre-War Assets Contraptions.esp
 47 2f     g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp
 48 30     infinite_settlement_budget.esp
 49 31     cVc Dead Wasteland.esp
 50 32     Journal.esp
 51 33     SoundOfSilence-E.esp
 52 34     dinomore.esp
 53 35     CREAtiveClutter.esp
 54 36     Sound of Silence DLC Addon - Automatron.esp
 55 37     Sound of Silence DLC Addon - Far Harbor.esp
 56 38     Sound of Silence DLC Addon - Nuka World.esp
 57 39     Alternate_Power_Sources.esp
 58 3a     SSEX.esp
 59 3b     bandstandv2.esp
 60 3c     Deco_dressing.esp
 61 3d     sanc road.esp
 62 3e     ModelRobotDisplay.esp
 63 3f     NukaColaDisplayStand.esp
 64 40     PerkChartPoster.esp
 65 41     Northland Diggers New.esp
 66 42     AES_Renovated Furniture.esp
 67 43     NukaVimRack.esp
 68 44     ImmersiveVendors.esp
 69 45     TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
 70 46     TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
 71 47     EvilViking13_MinutemenMorale.esp
 72 48     BasementLiving.esp
 73 49     ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp
 74 4a     DLC items to manufacturing.esp
 75 4b     ManufacturingExtended.esp
 76 4c     Better Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Additions.esp
 77 4d     conveyorbarriers.esp
 78 4e     DLC05 Equipment Sorter.esp
 79 4f     ConstructionLight_ExtraBright.esp
 80 50     Home Plate Workbench - Mechanists Lair Workbench.esp
 81 51     My_Minutemen.esp
 82 52     ImmersiveScrapping_SeasonPass.esp
           LooksMenu.esp
 83 53     Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
 84 54     ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp

Save file:

https://mega.nz/#!qd1xGSyL!D5kEBsx0N4hsl5zDtYX_SulzcqwqFeQ1hGSC1NOBKeQ

 

 

The only new stuff i installed is Better Manufacturing, AWKCR (only because Better Manufacturing for some reason requires it) and Equipment Sorter (a new sorter for Contraptions DLC). I also had Armorsmith Extended but removed it in case it was causing the CTD, which unfortunately wasn't the case.

 

EDIT: So i went back to a previous save, this one was in Sanctuary, did some stuff there (rebuilt a store, blah blah blah), no CTD, then went back to where it kept crashing (Reeb Marina), and boom, the moment i enter the area, the game crashed. Can't for the life of me figure out why.

 

EDIT2: Did more testing, turns out it was AWKCR that causing the CTD, at least according to the game that hasn't crashed since i disabled it.

Edited July 20, 2018 by u2020bullet

[Deleted3082751User]

did you remove Sim Settlements during an active playthrough, or did you install it before starting a new game, if its the former, your issues will get a lot worse down the line ( i am going to assume it is the former since its scripts are mentioned in papyrus logs, which means Sim Settlements scripts are baked into your save file)

 

scripted mods, have their scripts baked into the save files, if said mod is removed, you are going to have issues (which will become very apperent the more progress you make on the save game), issues such as CTD, Freezing, Save bloat, and finally Save Game Corruption (which is highly caused by Save Bloat)

 

never delete a scripted mod in an active playthrough. only remove/delete a scripted mod before starting a new game.

 

unless bethesda done some magic to fallout 4, skyrim which shares the same engine, would cripple if scripted mods were deleted during an active playthrough, this should also apply to fallout 4. since they share the exact same engine.

 

 

Was Sim Settlements used in this location --> Reeb Marina <--

 

if it was, that would explain the CTD when entering that area, again assuming you Deleted Sim Settlements during an active playthrough.

 

and lastly, keep an eye on your save game files sizes, if their is major differences in save game sizes, this could be a sign of *Save Bloat* if that is the case, you could be stepping into *Save Game Corruption* Territory

Edited July 21, 2018 by Guest

[u2020bullet]

I haven't actually used Sim Settlements at all, it was installed and activated, but never used.

As far as the CTD, it seems to have been caused by AWKCR, since the crashes stopped as soon as i removed it and the files that depended on it. I went ahead and reinstalled AWKCR after a while (new version was released in the meantime), and the crashes haven't returned yet so i'm gonna start reinstalling the other mods i removed at the time one by one, starting with Sim Settlements, then moving on to Armorsmith, Better Manufacturing and that sorter mod.

Will be making a few passes near Reeb marina just in case to make sure everything works.

 

Here's the thing i noticed with my save file sizes. Before the removal of these mods, my file sizes were approximately 37mb per save. After the removal, any new saves are approximately 13mb in size.

[Deleted3082751User]

looking at them file size difference, i would say for almost certain that it could be Save Bloat, which is very likely to cause CTD and other issues. so this would then mean, that said mods are either badly scripted, or have a lot of scripts being fired very frequently.

[u2020bullet]

looking at them file size difference, i would say for almost certain that it could be Save Bloat, which is very likely to cause CTD and other issues. so this would then mean, that said mods are either badly scripted, or have a lot of scripts being fired very frequently.

 

 

Possibly, but so far so good, since the reinstall of those mods i haven't really had many crashes. In those 2 days, literally only 2 crashes, and my FPS seems to be back to normal (guessing NMM messed up the previous mod installs somehow as i was getting some FPS dips when i shouldn't have). Thankfully i back up my saves every once in a while, so if something does happen i always have a save to go back to. :)