Micro-stuttering

[MattC]

Hey everyone,

 

I can't get rid of some small but really annoying micro-stuttering in my game. The framerate in itself is good but sometimes it looks like a couple of frames are skipped.

 

I think it comes from one of my mods but I can't figure out which one. I did disable them almost one by one but everytime I think it's gone I later realise it's not.

 

It seems to be working fine without any mods though.

 

Here is my mod list:

 

 

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name
"0025","Agony"
"0023","Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource (AWKCR)"
"0082","Armorsmith Extended v4.0"
"0026","ARR - Alcholic Rad Relief - Valdacils"
"0028","Auto Doors"
"0062","Be Exceptional - Skills and Perks"
"0052","Better Locational Damage"
"0080","BodySlide and Outfit Studio - v4.6.0"
"0018","Boston FPS Fix - AIO"
"0070","Button Lowered Weapons"
"0008","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-"
"0079","ClassicCombatArmor AE.zip"
"0029","Commonwealth Chickens and Rabbits 1 05b"
"0030","Conquest 1.3 Release"
"0010","CPAO v1.1"
"0031","CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.rar"
"0077","CROSS BrotherhoodRecon"
"0081","CROSS BrotherhoodRecon skinpack 4k"
"0078","CROSS Uni Scarf101b0"
"0071","CWSS Redux"
"0054","DEF_UI"
"0006","DLC: Automatron"
"0005","DLC: Contraptions Workshop"
"0004","DLC: Far Harbor"
"0003","DLC: Nuka-World"
"0002","DLC: Ultra High Resolution Texture Pack"
"0001","DLC: Vault-Tec Workshop"
"0000","DLC: Wasteland Workshop"
"0032","Enemies Don't Shoot So Good"
"0017","Enhanced Lights and FX"
"0016","Fallsouls - Unpaused Game Menus"
"0058","Favorites Menu Quick Item Switch (0.9.0)"
"0051","FO4 NPCs Travel"
"0033","Follower Revive System v2.11"
"0035","Freeze - Vanilla Patch.7z"
"0034","Freeze 2.2b Handcuff fix"
"0022","Full Dialogue Interface"
"0036","Give Me That Bottle"
"0009","Glowing Animals Emit Light - ALL DLC"
"0055","HUDFramework 1.0f"
"0053","Immersive Fallout"
"0060","Immersive HUD - iHUD"
"0024","Immersive NPC Ammo - AWKCR"
"0057","Immersive Settlers"
"0067","Inside Jobs - Commonwealth Interiors Add-On"
"0019","Insignificant Object Remover"
"0038","Legendary Modification"
"0039","Level Cap - 50"
"0068","Lexington Interiors"
"0040","Locksmith v1.02 - Lock Doors Only"
"0041","Locky Bastard"
"0063","LooksMenu"
"0042","Lootable Cars And Trucks"
"0043","Lootable Vault-Tec Containers and Wood Crates - Merged ESP"
"0013","Mod Configuration Menu 1.28"
"0044","MPPA x3 Vanilla and DLCs"
"0083","NCR Patrolman and Trooper Armors"
"0059","No Bethesda and S.P.E.C.I.A.L Intro"
"0027","PiP-Boy 2000"
"0084","Pip-Boy Flashlight"
"0050","Place (Fallout4 1.10.98 - latest release)"
"0072","Ponytail Hairstyles by Azar v2 5a - BA2 version"
"0007","Power Armor Materials AND Paints (PAMAP)"
"0086","Pricer Food (Valdacil's Item Sorting Version)"
"0061","prkf 0.996"
"0066","PVoFS v1.5"
"0073","RU556 - Assault Rifle v2.0"
"0075","RU556 Retexture"
"0085","Sofa Surfer - Sleeping on Couches"
"0021","Start Me Up - Full Dialogue Prompts - version 6.1"
"0045","Survival Options"
"0047","Survival Unlocker v1"
"0046","SurvivalOptionsV1.7 GiveMeThatBottleV2.6aPatc"
"0049","Tactical Distraction System"
"0069","The Beantown interiors Project"
"0048","Unbogus Health Scaling"
"0065","Unlock All Hairstyles - default version"
"0020","Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch"
"0056","Valdacil's Item Sorting"
"0074","Visible Weapons 1.3"
"0076","Visible Weapons Extended"
"0014","Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice"
"0011","Vivid Weathers MERGED"
"0012","Weapons of Fate (Ballistics Overhaul)"
"0015","Wetness Shader Fix"

Here are my specs:

NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1060
Intel Core i7 7700HQ CPU @2.80 GHz (8CPU)

My fallout4.ini:

[General]
sStartingConsoleCommand=cl off
sLanguage=en
uGridsToLoad=5
uExterior Cell Buffer=36
bDisableAllGore=0

[screenSplatter]
bBloodSplatterEnabled=1

[Display]
iFPSClamp=58
iPresentInterval=0
bDeferredCommands=1
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
bAllowScreenshot=1
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=3500.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=2000.0000
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
bNvGodraysEnable=1
bDynamicObjectQueryManager=1
bMultiThreadedAccumulation=1
bMultiThreadedRenderingUNP=1

fSAORadius=108.2
fSAOBias=0.6
fSAOIntensity=7.1

fSunUpdateThreshold:Display=0.5f
fSunShadowUpdateTime=1.0

[HairLighting]
fHairPrimSpecScale=0.02
fHairPrimSpecPow=125.0
fHairPrimSpecShift=0.36
fHairSecSpecScale=1.2
fHairSecSpecPow=160.0
fHairSecSpecShift=-0.40

[sSSSS]
fSSSSSPower = 4.0

[Audio]
bEnableAudio=1

[interface]
fDefaultWorldFOV=90
fDefault1stPersonFOV=90
fSafeZoneX=15.0
fSafeZoneY=15.0
fSafeZoneXWide=64.0
fSafeZoneYWid=36.0
fSafeZoneXWide16x10=64.0
fSafeZoneYWide16x10=36.0

[MapMenu]
uLockedObjectMapLOD=16
uLockedTerrainLOD=32

[Controls]
fMouseHeadingXScale=.021
fMouseHeadingYScale=.021

[Grass]
iMinGrassSize=20
bAllowCreateGrass=1

[imageSpace]
bDoRadialBlur=1

[Weather]
bPrecipitation=1

[Archive]
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
sResourceIndexFileList=Fallout4 - Textures1.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures2.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures3.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures4.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures5.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures6.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures7.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures8.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures9.ba2
sResourceStartUpArchiveList=Fallout4 - Startup.ba2, Fallout4 - Shaders.ba2, Fallout4 - Interface.ba2
SResourceArchiveList=Fallout4 - Voices.ba2, Fallout4 - Meshes.ba2, Fallout4 - MeshesExtra.ba2, Fallout4 - Misc.ba2, Fallout4 - Sounds.ba2, Fallout4 - Materials.ba2
SResourceArchiveList2=Fallout4 - Animations.ba2
sResourceDataDirsFinal=
SGeometryPackageList=Fallout4 - Geometry.csg
SCellResourceIndexFileList=Fallout4.cdx
SResourceArchiveMemoryCacheList= Fallout4 - Misc.ba2, Fallout4 - Shaders.ba2, Fallout4 - Interface.ba2, Fallout4 - Materials.ba2

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0

[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=4.5000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=2.5000

[Pathfinding]
fWarpMaxTime=4
iWarpMaxPathFailureCount=3
[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=0
bReflectLODLand=0
bReflectSky=0
bReflectLODTrees=0
[Launcher]
bEnableFileSelection=1

And my fallout4prefs :

[Display]
iFPSClamp=58
flocalShadowMapHalveEveryXUnit=750.0000
focusShadowMapDoubleEveryXUnit=450.0000
fShadowBiasScale=1.0000
fDirShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=3000.0000
uiOrthoShadowFilter=3
uiShadowFilter=3
iShadowMapResolution=1024
uPipboyTargetHeight=700
uPipboyTargetWidth=876
iVolumetricLightingQuality=0
bVolumetricLightingEnable=0
bSAOEnable=1
iDirShadowSplits=2
bVolumetricLightingForceCasters=0
iTiledLightingMinLights=40
bComputeShaderDeferredTiledLighting=1
iMaxFocusShadowsDialogue=4
iMaxFocusShadows=4
bForceIgnoreSmoothness=0
fBlendSplitDirShadow=48.0000
bSinglePassDirShadow=1
bEnableWetnessMaterials=1
fTessFactorMaxDistanceScale=100.0000
sAntiAliasing=TAA
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODFadeScalar=2.4000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fInteriorMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=1950.0000
fInteriorMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=2600.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=999999.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=999999.0000
iMaxAnisotropy=16
iPresentInterval=0
bTopMostWindow=0
bMaximizeWindow=0
bBorderless=1
bFull Screen=0
iSize H=1080
iSize W=1920
bAllowShadowcasterNPCLights=0
iScreenShotIndex=16
fMaxFocusShadowMapDistance=450.0000
bPrecipitationOcclusion=1
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060"
iTexMipMapSkip=0
bEnableRainOcclusion=1
iAdapter=0
[imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
bScreenSpaceBokeh=0
bMBEnable=1
bLensFlare=1
[Pipboy]
fPipboyEffectColorB=1.0000
fPipboyEffectColorG=1.0000
fPipboyEffectColorR=1.0000
[VATS]
fModMenuEffectHighlightPAColorB=0.4100
fModMenuEffectHighlightPAColorG=0.8200
fModMenuEffectHighlightPAColorR=1.0000
fModMenuEffectPAColorB=0.4100
fModMenuEffectPAColorG=0.8200
fModMenuEffectPAColorR=1.0000
fModMenuEffectHighlightColorB=1.0000
fModMenuEffectHighlightColorG=0.7500
fModMenuEffectHighlightColorR=0.0050
fModMenuEffectColorB=1.0000
fModMenuEffectColorG=0.7500
fModMenuEffectColorR=0.0050
[MAIN]
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000
bCrosshairEnabled=0
fHUDOpacity=1.0000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
[LightingShader]
bScreenSpaceSubsurfaceScattering=1
bScreenSpaceReflections=1
[General]
bGamepadEnable=1
bPipboyCompanionEnabled=0
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
uGridsToLoad=5
[interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
iHUDColorB=255
iHUDColorG=191
iHUDColorR=1
bDialogueCameraEnable=1
bShowCompass=1
uHUDActiveEffectWidget=2
[Controls]
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0300
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=0.6667
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=1
[GamePlay]
iDifficulty=6
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[saveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=10.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=3724717337
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=3724717336
fVal4=0.6500
uID4=138006
fVal3=0.6500
uID3=1007612
fVal2=1.0000
uID2=94881
fVal1=0.4935
uID1=466532
fVal0=1.0000
uID0=554685
[Water]
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterDepth=1
[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=75000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000
fBlockLevel2Distance=110000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=90000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=60000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000
bShowLODInEditor=0
[Grass]
fGrassStartFadeDistance=4960.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=400.0000
[Decals]
uMaxDecals=250
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=50
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40
[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=22.5000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=7.7250
fLODFadeOutMultActors=12.0000
[NVHBAO]
bEnable=1
fBackgroundAOViewDepth=750.0000
bBackgroundAOEnable=1
fDepthThresholdSharpness=100.0000
fDepthThresholdMaxViewDepth=500.0000
bDepthThresholdEnable=0
iDepthClampModeEnum=0
fCoarseAO=1.0000
fDetailAO=0.6500
fBlurSharpnessProfileBackgroundViewDepth=1.0000
fBlurSharpnessProfileForegroundViewDepth=0.0000
fBlurSharpnessProfileForegroundSharpnessScale=4.0000
bBlurSharpnessProfileEnable=0
fBlurSharpness=16.0000
iBlurRadiusEnum=1
bBlurEnable=1
fPowerExponent=2.5000
fBias=0.1000
fRadius=0.6500
[NVFlex]
bNVFlexEnable=0
iQuality=0
iMaxNeighbors2=64
iMaxNeighbors1=48
iMaxNeighbors0=32
iMaxParticles2=32768
iMaxParticles1=16000
iMaxParticles0=6000
fKillRadius2=4000.0000
fKillRadius1=3000.0000
fKillRadius0=2000.0000
bNVFlexInstanceDebris=1
bNVFlexDrawDebris=1
[blurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=0
[blurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0
[Launcher]
uLastAspectRatio=1
[bethesda.net]
uPersistentUuidData3=582497036
uPersistentUuidData2=2936881999
uPersistentUuidData1=1952400334
uPersistentUuidData0=955190123

Any help or suggestion would be really awesome

Edited July 27, 2018 by MattC

[sopmac45]

It has been advised that after every update ( or crashes ) to clean the game cache ( Steam ) and also clean the master files via xEdit. It has helped me a lot to avoid stuttering. Nevertheless, there may be some mods that contribute to the annoying stuttering but I do not know which are.

[Arneercool]

Things that modify existing meshes is the culprit in my game.

 

Just mesh mods that modify existing meshes, like repair houses, open them up, fix broken things like bridges. Mods that add on top of those mods do not set that micro-stutter off. And all of this persist even though the pre-comb is rebuild and patched. I don't go near bUseCombinedObjects=.

 

Meshes show up fine, but introduces a twerk in the frames every 3 seconds. Not massive stutter or lag, just that little annoying jit. Was not the controller issue either in my end, but you could start by trying that, turn it off along with vibrate.

[MattC]

Thank you for you help both of you
I tried all your suggestions and it seems to have reduced the stutter.

However it's still here so if anyone has any other ideas it'd be great!

 

Also I forgot to mention that I use Mod Organizer 2

[blitzen]

I've just started to see stuttering in Skyrim SE for the first time. It seems to be the result of the fps limiter (using the nVidia card feature) not quite managing the frame rate effectively when it hits 60 fps. I see it hit 61 fps and it stutters. What sort of frame-rate limiter are you using, and what fps values are you seeing? That might be a factor.

Edited July 28, 2018 by blitzen

[MattC]

I don't think I'm using any FPS limiter...

Perhaps I'm using the same one as you without being aware of it

Where is it located ?

[blitzen]

I don't think I'm using any FPS limiter...

Perhaps I'm using the same one as you without being aware of it

Where is it located ?

 

There are a couple of options. I'm currently using the nVidia Control Panel, which has an option for 60 fps, but it's not handling 60 fps well when the game actually manages to hit that rate. There is also nVidia Profile Inspector, which gives you more options, such as setting the limit to 58 fps, which allegedly reduces issues I'm seeing. I'll be trying that soon. I used it for Skyrim LE and FO4 and it seemed to work well. If you use either of these, make sure Vsync is off in the ini file. In the Skyrim prefs ini, it's iVSyncPresentInterval=0, so I assume it's the same name in FO4. IIRC, some people were saying that using the game Vsync causes problems.

Edited July 28, 2018 by blitzen

[MattC]

 

I don't think I'm using any FPS limiter...

Perhaps I'm using the same one as you without being aware of it

Where is it located ?

 

There are a couple of options. I'm currently using the nVidia Control Panel, which has an option for 60 fps, but it's not handling 60 fps well when the game actually manages to hit that rate. There is also nVidia Profile Inspector, which gives you more options, such as setting the limit to 58 fps, which allegedly reduces issues I'm seeing. I'll be trying that soon. I used it for Skyrim LE and FO4 and it seemed to work well. If you use either of these, make sure Vsync is off in the ini file. In the Skyrim prefs ini, it's iVSyncPresentInterval=0, so I assume it's the same name in FO4. IIRC, some people were saying that using the game Vsync causes problems.

 

Where is the option in the control panel ?

[blitzen]

Oops. I did not remember this correctly. It's not a 60 fps setting. It's still Vsync, and the large-screen TV I'm using as a monitor runs at 60 fps. It's under "Manage 3D settings." It's supposedly better to use this Vsync than the game Vsync, but using the Inspector Profile setting is the best. You can pick the frame rate you want as an upper limit. If you use the in-game Vsync, it wants to run at either 60 or 30 fps. If it can't stay near 60, it drops down to 30 (it does this in Skyrim SE anyway). So maybe Vsync is crappy regardless of which one you use. Try the Inspector and see if that makes a difference. When I first installed SSE, I didn't find a profile for it, but I see one there now. I don't recall any stuttering in FO4 and Skyrim LE when using the profile settings, other than that caused by massive loading.

Edited July 29, 2018 by blitzen

[MattC]

Alright thanks will try that

Although I noticed that details (like grass and better tree meshes) on semi-distant terrain (25m away) seem to appear all at once in square area (possibly cells ?) and i think the stutter happens when all those details load at once, unlike skyrim for example where it smoothly appear in a radius around me)

 

Sorry if I'm not being clear I'm not sure how to explain it in a better way.

Edited July 29, 2018 by MattC