Fallout 3 Wanderers Edition + MMM + EVE need help with installing

[Deleted57485586User]

Hello,

 

I'm having problems with crashing and freezing game after installing these three mods. Game is crashing or freezing after passing through the doors and during the fast travel. I tried everything, Blackened patches, Paradox, FOIP, and some other compatibility files found in search bar, still no result.

 

Any suggestions, guys? Perhpas I installed mods incorrectly, but I don't think i did. I read all readmes. Can't play normally if my game crashes ever 15mins. I have STEAM version of Fallout 3 GOTY.

 

My laptop:

 

CPU: i7

RAM: 8gb ram ddr4

GPU: GF 1060 6gb

 

Cheers.

Edited August 12, 2018 by Guest

[M48A5]

Where is the game installed? How did you install your mods? What did you use to sort your load order? What is your load order? And much more information is needed before anyone can give a guess to a solution.

 

Please see "How to ask for help" https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/How_to_ask_for_help and provide all the information noted there.

[Deleted57485586User]

Sorry for lack of informations, but I just reinstalled the game for the third time so I gotta install everything again.

 

I installed the mods with Nexus Mod Manager, Load orders is sorted by LOOT. I've been trying also Mod Sorter and Mod Organizer. Honestly, I don't think it's a matter of sorting. It must be something with these mods.

 

Generally I wish to know is there a way to make MMM, FWE and EVE work together without crashes. Something except Blackened/FOIP.

 

EDIT::::::::::

 

Ok, problem fixed by uninstalling FWE.

Edited August 12, 2018 by Guest

[M48A5]

There is nothing wrong with the mods, but the problem is with your install and sort tools. There are various posts on the FWE comments pages on how to install FWE with NMM. NMM is not the best tool to install FO3 mods.

 

Never use LOOT to sort FO3 mods. It does not now and never has sorted FO3 mods correctly.

 

If you read and follow the instructions for Blackened, it is the best patch for FWE, MMM and EVE. It is better than FOIP. You just need to read the instructions.

 

The best tool to sort FO3 mods is still B.O.S.S.

[Deleted57485586User]

Alright, then what would you suggest about my load order? Order below sorted with LOOT. Im suffering crashes when using the doors (into the building and out of the) and sometimes outside the cities. Before I tried to play without FWE, but removing it nothing changed.

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] StreetLights.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] Project Beauty.esm

[X] EVE.esm

[X] RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

[X] JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

[X] BrokenSteel2.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[X] Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp

[ ] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

[ ] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

[X] Blackened RH + FWE + EVE.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] RH_FWE_Bridge.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp

[X] RH_EVE_Bridge.esp

[ ] Flora Overhaul.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

[X] RH_WMK_Bridge.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

[ ] MMMfix ver 2.esp

[ ] WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp

[X] JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp

[X] ManualReload.esp

[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp

[X] Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Edited August 13, 2018 by Guest

[M48A5]

Uninstall all of the inactive mods.

 

Use B.O.S.S. to sort your load order.

 

Read the mod pages. Most of the large mods have sample load orders.

 

Compatibility patches must load after the last mod being patched.

 

And again, if you want a game that you can play, do not use LOOT!

[Deleted57485586User]

Boss sorted the mods and ... changed nothing. Load order is still the same. I started to move some mods by myself but truly I don't know anything about mod sorting, while the MMM's readme suggestions are difficult to compare with FWE's suggestions and other mods.

 

That's funny because I'm running FNV with many more mods (including few of the biggest modifications like PN) and game isn't crashing at all. Anyway if anyone had any suggestions, please post it in this topic.

Edited August 14, 2018 by Guest

[M48A5]

Boss sorted the mods and ... changed nothing. Load order is still the same. I started to move some mods by myself but truly I don't know anything about mod sorting, while the MMM's readme suggestions are difficult to compare with FWE's suggestions and other mods.

 

That's funny because I'm running FNV with many more mods (including few of the biggest modifications like PN) and game isn't crashing at all. Anyway if anyone had any suggestions, please post it in this topic.

It is impossible for BOSS and LOOT to come up with the same load order. They use different criteria to sort the mods and LOOT does not now and never has sorted FO3 mods correctly.

 

Any load order sorting tool that places compatibility patches before the last mod being patched is not sorting correctly.

 

You either did not install BOSS correctly or you have the game installed in "Program Files" If it is the latter, you will need to install the game in a location on your harddrive outside of "Program Files" I have my game installed directly on C: in a Bethesda Softworks folder. There are quite a few people that have the game installed in the "My Games" sub-folder in the "Documents" folder.

[Deleted57485586User]

Oh i see. Ok I'll try to install game somewhere else. But it's steam and it doesn't like to change directory. But I'll handle that.

 

Can we talk about installing FWE+MMM+EVE+PB+WMK? I'm wondering in what order I should install these mods.

 

I just can't make it work. Game is crashing every 20mins.

 

I have UUF3P patch for FWE and I'm using Blackened patches (combo for FWE+MMM+EVE+PB). Also had to use one FOIP patch for WMK+FWE. Am I missing anything?

 

EVE and MMM are Paradox merged versions.

 

My current load order:

 

 

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] Project Beauty.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] EVE.esm

[X] BrokenSteel2.esp

[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

[X] CALIBRxMerchant.esp

[X] ManualReload.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

[X] UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp

[X] Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

[M48A5]

Mods with DLC plugins should be in the same order as the base game DLCs.

 

Do not include the Blackened patch in the Bashed patch and load it after the patch.

 

You have to re-do the bashed patch, so leaving Blackened out is not a problem.

 

As for install order, I don't know since I don't use PB, MMM or EVE.