Deleted42692995User Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Pulling my hair out for the last two days. Mod order has slowly got larger over the last few months, and this randomly started happening, not after a specific mod was installed. Specs: i7-6700k 4.2Ghz16Gb DDR4 2133GTX 1080Game running on SSD Mod orderGameMode=Fallout4 Fallout4.esm=1DLCRobot.esm=1DLCworkshop01.esm=1DLCCoast.esm=1DLCworkshop02.esm=1DLCworkshop03.esm=1DLCNukaWorld.esm=1ccbgsfo4001-pipboy(black).esl=1ccbgsfo4004-pipboy(camo02).esl=1ccbgsfo4006-pipboy(chrome).esl=1ccbgsfo4016-prey.esl=1ccbgsfo4018-gaussrifleprototype.esl=1ccbgsfo4020-powerarmorskin(black).esl=1ccbgsfo4042-bfg.esl=1ccfrsfo4001-handmadeshotgun.esl=1ccrzrfo4001-tunnelsnakes.esm=1ccbgsfo4045-advarccab.esl=1ccswkfo4002-pipnuka.esl=1ccswkfo4003-pipquan.esl=1ccfrsfo4002-antimaterielrifle.esl=1ccbgsfo4029-powerarmorskinpink.esl=1ccbgsfo4010-pippnk.esl=1Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1ConcealedArmor.esm=1TrueStormsFO4.esm=1DamageThresholdFramework.esm=1ArmorKeywords.esm=1Loads.esm=1NewCalibers.esp=1CROSS_CryoLance.esp=1HandmadeAntiMaterielRifle.esl=1Loot Detector.esp=1aesscroungerexpanded.esp=1aesscroungerexpandeddlc.esp=13dscopes.esp=1AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1ConcealedArmor.esp=1OCDecorator.esp=1OCDispenser.esp=1OCDecoratorDLC.esp=1LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1SKKKillablePreston.esp=1EnclaveX02.esp=14 x XP.esp=1M9.esp=1QuadBarrelShotgun.esp=1BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp=1GaussRifleMk2.esp=1M2216.esp=1DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp=1Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp=1Crafting Workbench.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp=1BTB- Beyond the Borders FO4.esp=1Dustbowl Overhaul.esp=1MoreUniques.esp=1BTInteriors_Project.esp=1nvvault1080.esp=1MojaveImports.esp=1Armorsmith Extended.esp=1GlowingSeaEXPANDED.esp=1SalemEXPANDED.esp=1ASVektor.esp=1BattleRifle.esp=1America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp=1vault165.esp=1TheCode.esp=1OutcastsAndRemnants.esp=1ScumOfTheCommonwealth.esp=1NIS - Hunted.esp=1HagenEXPANDED.esp=1AA FusionCityRising.esp=1Fusion Gun.esp=1WZWildWasteland.esp=1MikeMooresMCAM.esp=1MaxwellsWorl.esp=1mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp=1F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp=1Alien Encampments.esp=1Vault115.esp=1AA 50 Ways To Die.esp=1Be Exceptional.esp=1Intoxicants Of The Commonwealth.esp=1ChemsPlus.esp=1MojaveImports_ChemsPlusCompatibilityPatch.esp=1Nuka-Cola Flavors for the Commonwealth.esp=1Remington.esp=11918bar.esp=1Egret's Secret.esp=1TFDeagle.esp=1CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp=1Tomacuzi9.esp=1MP40.esp=19mmPistol.esp=1HandmadeAntiMaterielRifle.esp=1standaloneconstruct.esp=1WattzLaserGun.esp=1SCAR-L.esp=1stumbleuponinteriors.esp=1Rangergearnew.esp=1VaultTecStory.esp=1LAER.esp=1M1Garand.esp=1M2045MagnumRevolverRifle.esp=1LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp=1AK74M.esp=1P99.esp=1GS Benelli M3S90.esp=1AtomicAnnieLagrieGun.esp=1BullpupBozar.esp=19x39Project.esp=1DP_CaravanShotgun.esp=1SigSauer127.esp=1SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp=1StG44.esp=1fn five-seven v3.0.esp=1AK47.esp=1R91M.esp=1M14.esp=1HuntingShotgun.esp=1Hellfirenew.esp=1OTs-02 Kiparis.esp=1PlasmaGatling.esp=1D.E.C.A.Y.esp=1Skip DIMA memories.esp=1ClassicSuperSledge.esp=1PlagueDoctor.esp=1WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp=1Glowing Eyes.esp=145autoPistol.esp=1AlienAssaultRifle.esp=1Classic VATS.esp=1AN94.esp=1GreaseGunSMG.esp=1Walther MPL.esp=1LightsaberMod.esp=1ACR-W17.esp=1NewCalibers_LeverActionReload.esp=1MinigunDamage v2.0x.esp=1Alien Blaser Overhaul.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp=13dscopes-G67addon.esp=13dscopes-replacer-g67addon.esp=13dscopes-m2216addon.esp=13dscopes-replacer-m2216addon.esp=13dscopes-m14addon.esp=13dscopes-r91maddon.esp=13dscopes-replacer-r91maddon.esp=13dscopes-UMPaddon.esp=13dscopes-replacer-UMPaddon.esp=13dscopes-xm73addon.esp=13dscopes-replacer-xm73addon.esp=13dscopes-replacer-vektoraddon.esp=1RechamberingPlus.esp=1GatlingRifle.esp=1GatlingRifle-Loads.esp=13dscopes-M9addon.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp=03dscopes-replacer-m14addon.esp=13dscopes-vektoraddon.esp=13dscopes-FarHarbor.esp=13dscopes-replacer-FarHarbor.esp=1Crossbow.esp=13dscopes-Crossbowaddon.esp=13dscopes-replacer-Crossbowaddon.esp=1IOTC - Wasteland Imports Compatibility.esp=1OCD FarHarborDLC.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp=1DOOMDesertEagle.esp=1Family Mauser.esp=1DOOMMAC11.esp=1Remington 1858.esp=1Brawl Bug Fix.esp=13dscopes-NukaWorld.esp=13dscopes-replacer-NukaWorld.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp=1LunchboxSurprise.esp=1USP 45.esp=13dscopes-uspaddon.esp=1ExtraPerkPoints.esp=1RightHandedHuntingRifle.esp=1OCD NukaWorldDLC.esp=1M1Garand - AWKCR-VIS-VW.esp=1M1Garand - AWKCR-VIS.esp=1M1Garand - AWKCR-VW.esp=1M1Garand - AWKCR.esp=1More Loot in Containers.esp=1More Loot in Boss Chest.esp=13dscopes-defenseaddon.esp=1P90.esp=1P90NPC.esp=1BallisticWeaverAWKCR-All_in_one.esp=1ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp=110mmSMG.esp=1AUG-A1.esp=1The Deadly Commonwealth Expansion.esp=1TDCE + AE Patch.esp=1RU556.esp=13dscopes-replacer.esp=13dscopes-replacer-wattzaddon.esp=13dscopes-wattzaddon.esp=1ConcordEXPANDED.esp=1MilitarizedMinutemen.esp=13dscopes-framework.esp=1AQUILA.esp=1LeeEnfieldNo4MkI - VIS&AWKCR.esp=1Quad_Accelerator.esp=13dscopes-servicerifleaddon.esp=13dscopes-replacer-servicerifleaddon.esp=1cheatterminal.esp=1osm_alternatestart_protocol-infiniteanswer.esp=0LeverActionReloadOverhaul.esp=1 I know this is a lot but I've run over 320+ plugins before with no issue, I am not sure why these don't sit right.Currently I have disable a plugin 1 by 1 and launched the game to see if a specific mod was the cause. This didn't work.I completely uninstalled everything (Including my saves) and started fresh, I could start the game with no mods, and slowly add them. Its not until I add all of them that I get a crash.I added an enb and tried the enb boost patch to see if it helped, I can now enter combat for about 1-2 seconds and then I get a crash to desktop.Currently the crash only happens when I go to kill the first rad roach in the vault.I have tried using 3 different alternative start mods to try and exit directly to the wasteland with no avail.LOOT did not help either. Running out of options. Any help would be gracious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) the limit for the load order is 256 mods with a check mark in NMM or WRYE, with 320 "plugins" you're guaranteed to crash, if you've done that before then i would bet that Wrye or MO was merging some mods into the patch file and that is why you were able to play with that many The part where you said you were disabling mods? you'e doing it backwards, do it this way instead start a game with only the vanilla files, make a character and hard save - a hard save is going into the menu and choosing save manuallyload 5 mods and check if the game loads, if it does, keep loading 5 at a time till it crashesIf it doesn't load or the game crashes, then one of those 5 mods you just installed or enabled is the culprit also you can run your load order through Fallout 4 Edit and if there is anything wrong or missing it will tell you, like if you're missing a master file or patch file use this to get out of the vault and once you're standing outside then make the hard save i described - https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/33129 good luck Edited August 17, 2018 by gromulos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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