Immediate CTD outside Whiterun

[PikeyS999]

Hey guys,

I have been getting a CTD outside Whiterun when starting a new file and going there for the first time.

It happens just after where the Companions are fighting the Giant. Does anyone else know whats the problem or having this issue?

 

Heres my Load order (Done by LOOT):

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 ApachiiHair.esm

7 7 BSAssets.esm

8 8 BSHeartland.esm

9 9 BS_DLC_patch.esp

10 a SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

11 b Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

12 c Cutting Room Floor.esp

13 d Vivid WeathersSE.esp

14 e icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

15 f AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

16 10 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

17 11 Immersive Jewelry.esp

18 12 Helgen Reborn.esp

19 13 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

20 14 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

21 15 skyBirds_SSE.esp

22 16 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

23 17 zMirai.esp

24 18 Run For Your Lives.esp

25 19 Cloaks.esp

26 1a LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp

27 1b Inigo.esp

28 1c WindstadMine.esp

29 1d OH GOD BEES.esp

30 1e Skyshards.esp

31 1f Immersive Followers.esp

32 20 SofiaFollower.esp

33 21 InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack.esp

34 22 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

35 23 Recorder Follower Base.esp

36 24 ElysiumEstate.esp

37 25 ElysiumEstateSSE.esp

38 26 notice board.esp

39 27 Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp

40 28 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

41 29 garm_ghost.esp

42 2a IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp

43 2b My Home Is Your Home.esp

44 2c giftsofakatosh.esp

45 2d ISD_Longclaw.esp

46 2e Hearthfire Warehouse.esp

47 2f Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

48 30 GoldToSeptims.esp

49 31 Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

50 32 ISD_Dragonspear.esp

51 33 FNIS.esp

52 34 Jormundandr Dragon.esp

53 35 FNISspells.esp

54 36 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

55 37 UNP Vanilla Outfits.esp

56 38 Notice Board MCM.esp

57 39 zzArmormashups.esp

58 3a Zikoru Swords.esp

59 3b DragonLordSwords.esp

60 3c ValkyrieSwordShield.esp

61 3d RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp

62 3e MasterSword.esp

63 3f Potions.esp

64 40 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp

65 41 Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp

66 42 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

67 43 50 More Perk Points.esp

68 44 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp

69 45 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp

70 46 Northgirl.esp

71 47 Realistic Death Physics - No Animations - Skyrim.esp

72 48 Rebalanced Leveled Lists.esp

73 49 SkyUI_SE.esp

74 4a BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

75 4b SeeEnchs.esp

76 4c Stinger-Poisoner.esp

77 4d SwordOfTheSeeker.esp

78 4e Unique Uniques.esp

79 4f VioLens SE.esp

80 50 VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp

81 51 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

82 52 NamelessLight.esp

83 53 sandboxcylinderheight.esp

84 54 Bloodskal100.esp

85 55 More Weapons Please.esp

86 56 Margery Follower.esp

87 57 BBLorkhanMoonlightGreatsword.esp

88 58 Luna_GoV.esp

89 59 KS Hairdo's.esp

90 5a JS Armored Circlets SE.esp

91 5b HearthfireMultiKid.esp

92 5c HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

93 5d Fenrir Blades.esp

94 5e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

95 5f dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

96 60 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp

97 61 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp

98 62 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

99 63 DiamondSmithingComplete.esp

100 64 Delayed Dragonborn.esp

101 65 DeathbrandItems.esp

102 66 DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp

103 67 Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp

104 68 Ars Metallica.esp

105 69 Dr_Bandolier.esp

106 6a Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

107 6b Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

108 6c RaceMenu.esp

109 6d XPMSE.esp

110 6e RaceMenuPlugin.esp

111 6f LeftHandRings.esp

112 70 AKA_LeftHandRings_Patch.esp

113 71 Eimar's Edge.esp

114 72 SGEyebrows.esp

115 73 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

116 74 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

117 75 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

118 76 Hunters Not Bandits.esp

119 77 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp

120 78 Convenient Horses.esp

121 79 CH Bruma Patch.esp

122 7a RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

123 7b RealisticWaterTwo.esp

124 7c RWT Lod Fix.esp

Is any one of these mods conflicting and causing the issue?

Thanks in advance

[Mercury71]

Two things i react to when seing load order.

No Bashed or Smashed patch? With so many mods a patch would probably solve a lot of problems.

FNIS always end up at the end of my loadorders just before patches. So their placements in your order seem a bit weird to me.

[PikeyS999]

Ok I will try that, I'm still a noob with modding aha.

 

The odd thing for me is the fact that i haven't seen this issue appear before and I've been playing modded skyrim for ages with the same set of mods, some had been updated though so that could be one of the issues.

I'll try either bash or smash patching and see what happens.

 

Thanks for the reply :)

[PikeyS999]

Two things i react to when seing load order.

No Bashed or Smashed patch? With so many mods a patch would probably solve a lot of problems.

FNIS always end up at the end of my loadorders just before patches. So their placements in your order seem a bit weird to me.

 

Ok, I've done both of these things and it keeps crashing in the exact same area,

is there any mods on the list which could be conflicting which isn't being picked up by the tools?

 

Beacuse I have no idea what could be causing these issues.

[Xuprmefenix]

Do you use loot externally or in MO2 I would check for dirty plugins first. I see a lot wrong with your load order but i would start with Cleaning mods if need be first . Then Review what you know about load orders and remember to always read mod description pages before downloading you want to know everything thier is to know about the mods youre downloading.

 

 

 

 

 

Gamer poets is going to be your best friend these guys know all there is to know

Edited August 30, 2018 by Xuprmefenix

[leonardo2]

What Mercury 71 said. Where is the bashed patch, I can't see it?

 

Most people knows that the bashed patch is essential for a modded game like your loadorder and using Wrye Bash is known to make a modded game stable.

 

 

IIRC LOOT works best if used outside of MO and this post and the next post might help you to solve your issue.

 

Also, try to deactivate this mod just to see if it helps. Remember, always run Generate FNIS for users.exe every time you install or uninstall or deactivate a mod.

 

39 27 Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp

[RikoFutatabi]

I have also been having this EXACT same issue and I only had 2 Mods installed. I use Nexus Mod Manager and have only USSEP and Immersive Citizens installed. And yes I have SKSE64 properly installed, using LOOT and I've cleaned Skyrim and the DLCs thoroughly of ITMs and UDRs before any mods were installed. The crash at Whiterun when around the Companions vs. Giant fight seems like a notorious issue that has never been solved. You only need to search google about it to see how common it has been.

 

Occasionally I'll get by without a CTD, but it's almost certain that I will crash.

 

And just to be more clear this is my very simple Load order:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

I have been testing this out for the past few days with only SKSE64 running and I got to Whiterun without issues and I also had no issues after installing USSEP, so of course this led me to believe that Immersive Citizens was the culprit however even after disabling Immersive Citizens I did continue to crash at that same spot making me assume that I'd just got somewhat "lucky" the times I ran through with only SKSE64 and USSEP installed or at the very least there was less chance of a crash. And surprisingly so, I've found that no one has pin-pointed this issue considering it seems like a common occurrence when I searched google about it.

Edited August 30, 2018 by RikoFutatabi