CTD when I get close to Falkreath

[75190255508]

I have installed quite a few mods and everything is working perfectly fine, until I got the quest to kill vampires for the Companions. I get close to the place I am supposed to go to, coming from the east, and it CTDs on me. So I try to grab a carriage to Falkreath (havent been there yet) and it CTDs during the loading screen. I try aproaching from west and north and the same thing happens. I really have no idea why.

I use NMM, LOOT and I have cleaned with SSEEdit. Tried today with Wrye Bash but still no luck.

Here is my load order, I would be very grateful for any kind of advice and help on what to do. Many of the mod pages dont say anything about the load order, so I have no idea whether they cause the problem or not. And yes, I have a ton of follower skimpy mods installed.

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

7 7 FlowerGirls SE.esm

8 8 ApachiiHair.esm

9 9 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

10 a SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

11 b SkyUI_SE.esp

12 c RaceMenu.esp

13 d XPMSE.esp

14 e RaceMenuPlugin.esp

15 f 12FemaleBrows.esp

16 10 FNIS.esp

17 11 RLO - Interiors.esp

18 12 RLO - Exteriors.esp

19 13 Eli_Breezehome.esp

20 14 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

21 15 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

22 16 Follower Neisa.esp

23 17 FNISspells.esp

24 18 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

25 19 NecromageConjuration.esp

26 1a LeftHandRings.esp

27 1b LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp

28 1c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

29 1d RLO - Effects.esp

30 1e RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp

31 1f ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L1.esp

32 20 Adernia.esp

33 21 AP Skyrim SE.esp

34 22 TrueStormsSE.esp

35 23 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

36 24 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

37 25 RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp

38 26 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

39 27 JKs Skyrim.esp

40 28 LeafRest OnePiece.esp

41 29 JKs Skyrim Leafrest Patch.esp

42 2a icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

43 2b UNP Undies.esp

44 2c Immersive Patrols II.esp

45 2d Melt_Down_Everything.esp

46 2e Heybaby_Follower_Olivia.esp

47 2f AnyaErikoFollowers.esp

48 30 Keri Companion SSE.esp

49 31 mihailmoa.esp

50 32 Abba.esp

51 33 xElenwe.esp

52 34 River Rock Village.esp

53 35 Lendri.esp

54 36 Karo's Cairn.esp

55 37 JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

56 38 NBsNPCApachiiHair.esp

57 39 Shino Miko Outfit.esp

58 3a VGS_Sucettes.esp

59 3b Shino Bikini Pack SSE.esp

60 3c Invisible_Helmet.esp

61 3d LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp

62 3e R18pn - lingerie Set.esp

63 3f female mannequins.esp

64 40 Northern Priestess - EX.esp

65 41 yurica_kimono.esp

66 42 SimpleOutfitManager.esp

67 43 CS_TagNTrackSE.esp

68 44 Luna_GoV.esp

69 45 AshNWnisePinkSeduction.esp

70 46 My Home Is Your Home.esp

71 47 AzuraHouse.esp

72 48 Immersive Wenches.esp

73 49 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp

74 4a Shino_Traveling Magician.esp

75 4b MBWSYNFollowersACT2.esp

76 4c Hermit.esp

77 4d EOMSIC_YunsolCustomVoiceFollower.esp

78 4e Elysia.esp

79 4f Recorder Follower Base.esp

80 50 Immersive Followers.esp

81 51 DragonPlateBrazen.esp

82 52 RosaFollower.esp

83 53 OK_Followers.esp

84 54 Lolidia_se.esp

85 55 Miqo'te Follower.esp

86 56 AwpSylvanas.esp

87 57 Immersive Conjure Spells.esp

88 58 Immersive Movement Speed.esp

89 59 Immersive Encounters.esp

90 5a RohPoses.esp

91 5b Marie Follower - Vampire.esp

92 5c Capri.esp

93 5d Letizia.esp

94 5e Nami.esp

95 5f Better Weapons.esp

96 60 Lost Dragon Dungeon.esp

97 61 HammetDungeons.esp

98 62 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[gromulos]

I see you have several follower mods, these should be loaded directly above the bashed patch, ALL of them

 

The followers that have quest should be loaded below the followers who don't - the reason for this is you don't want anything interferring with their scripts when they fire, a broken script can easily break your game and corrupt your saves

 

I see you used a bashed patch, that's great :) , BUT, were any of the mods orange or red?

 

when you installed wrye and had it load up your load order, did you rebuild the bashed patch by right clicking it?

 

Let me know and if you need more help i will be glad to help :)

Edited August 29, 2018 by gromulos

[75190255508]

I see you have several follower mods, these should be loaded directly above the bashed patch, ALL of them

 

1. The followers that have quest should be loaded below the followers who don't - the reason for this is you don't want anything interferring with their scripts when they fire, a broken script can easily break your game and corrupt your saves

 

2. I see you used a bashed patch, that's great :smile: , BUT, were any of the mods orange or red?

 

3. when you installed wrye and had it load up your load order, did you rebuild the bashed patch by right clicking it?

 

Let me know and if you need more help i will be glad to help :smile:

 

First of all, thank you for your advice, very much appreciated. I took the liberty to add numbers to your post for easier reading. I want to get deeper into this, and if there is anything you feel you want to explain further I am all ears (I dont want you to get exhausted over it though).

 

1. I rearranged the followers the way you told me.

 

2. Ok, so this is the first time I use Wrye and Im not very used to it. No reds, but a couple of orange ones.

Invisible_helmet.esp

JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

Eli_Breezehome.esp

 

3. Yes, I did it by right clicking it and then *Build patch*. I did not change any of the settings though. Still new to this software so I am not comfortable changing anything.

 

Just a quick question. The order of managing mods, should it be:

 

NMM

LOOT

SSEEdit

Wrye

?

 

Or should I go back to LOOT and let it arrange the order again for me?

 

Sorry for bothering you with all this newb questions, it takes me back to when I had to learn the Hammer editor for Half Life though, haha. Omg, that was ages ago.

 

New load order:

 

00 Skyrim.esm

01 Update.esm

02 Dawnguard.esm

03 HearthFires.esm

04 Dragonborn.esm

05 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.1.4]

06 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

07 FlowerGirls SE.esm

08 ApachiiHair.esm

09 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

0A SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

0B SkyUI_SE.esp

0C RaceMenu.esp

0D XPMSE.esp

0E RaceMenuPlugin.esp

0F 12FemaleBrows.esp

10 FNIS.esp

11 RLO - Interiors.esp

12 RLO - Exteriors.esp

13 Eli_Breezehome.esp

14 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

15 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

16 FNISspells.esp

17 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

18 NecromageConjuration.esp

19 LeftHandRings.esp

1A LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp

1B Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

1C RLO - Effects.esp

++ RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp

++ ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L1.esp

1D AP Skyrim SE.esp

1E TrueStormsSE.esp

1F RealisticWaterTwo.esp

20 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

21 RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp

++ RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

22 JKs Skyrim.esp

23 LeafRest OnePiece.esp

24 JKs Skyrim Leafrest Patch.esp

25 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

26 UNP Undies.esp

27 Immersive Patrols II.esp

28 Melt_Down_Everything.esp

29 mihailmoa.esp

2A River Rock Village.esp

2B Karo's Cairn.esp

2C JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

2D NBsNPCApachiiHair.esp

2E Shino Miko Outfit.esp

2F VGS_Sucettes.esp

30 Shino Bikini Pack SSE.esp

31 Invisible_Helmet.esp

32 LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp

33 R18pn - lingerie Set.esp

34 female mannequins.esp

35 Northern Priestess - EX.esp

36 yurica_kimono.esp

37 SimpleOutfitManager.esp

38 CS_TagNTrackSE.esp

39 AshNWnisePinkSeduction.esp

3A My Home Is Your Home.esp

3B AzuraHouse.esp

3C Immersive Wenches.esp

++ Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp

3D Shino_Traveling Magician.esp

3E Lost Dragon Dungeon.esp

3F MBWSYNFollowersACT2.esp

40 HammetDungeons.esp [Version dant]

41 Hermit.esp

42 EOMSIC_YunsolCustomVoiceFollower.esp

43 Recorder Follower Base.esp

44 Immersive Followers.esp

45 DragonPlateBrazen.esp

46 OK_Followers.esp

47 Miqo'te Follower.esp

48 Immersive Conjure Spells.esp

++ Immersive Movement Speed.esp

49 Immersive Encounters.esp

++ Better Weapons.esp

4A RohPoses.esp

4B Adernia.esp

4C AnyaErikoFollowers.esp

4D xElenwe.esp

4E Follower Neisa.esp

4F Capri.esp

50 Letizia.esp

51 Keri Companion SSE.esp

52 Heybaby_Follower_Olivia.esp

53 Lolidia_se.esp

54 Abba.esp

55 AwpSylvanas.esp

56 Luna_GoV.esp

57 Lendri.esp

58 Nami.esp

59 Elysia.esp

5A RosaFollower.esp

5B Marie Follower - Vampire.esp

5C Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[gromulos]

2. Ok, so this is the first time I use Wrye and Im not very used to it. No reds, but a couple of orange ones.
Invisible_helmet.esp
JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp
Eli_Breezehome.esp

 

Use Appendix 1 for these

 

Just a quick question. The order of managing mods, should it be: - swap Edit and Wrye

NMM
LOOT
SSEEdit
Wrye
?

 

that is a LOT of followers, you basically have a platoon lol

 

3. Yes, I did it by right clicking it and then *Build patch*. I did not change any of the settings though. Still new to this software so I am not comfortable changing anything.

 

You need to go through both lists on the left and right of the rebuilding window to make sure that every listing on the left that has an entry on the right, that both sides have check marks, otherwise no check mark = not included in patch file

 

here is an example of what I mean

 

Edited August 29, 2018 by gromulos

[75190255508]

2. Ok, so this is the first time I use Wrye and Im not very used to it. No reds, but a couple of orange ones.

Invisible_helmet.esp

JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

Eli_Breezehome.esp

 

Use Appendix 1 for these

 

Just a quick question. The order of managing mods, should it be: - swap Edit and Wrye

 

NMM

LOOT

SSEEdit

Wrye

?

 

that is a LOT of followers, you basically have a platoon lol

 

3. Yes, I did it by right clicking it and then *Build patch*. I did not change any of the settings though. Still new to this software so I am not comfortable changing anything.

 

You need to go through both lists on the left and right of the rebuilding window to make sure that every listing on the left that has an entry on the right, that both sides have check marks, otherwise no check mark = not included in patch file

 

here is an example of what I mean

 

 

 

Thank you for your response. I have moved around the orange ones but it doesn't really matter where I put them, they will still stay orange. I have checked other sites on how to solve it but everyone just says to move them around until they turn green. Could it be so that they aren't fully compatible?

 

Yeah, my platoon of follower are more for filling the cities a little bit more. Most of them come in naked at first so I had to run around and give them clothes, haha. Maybe I should just uninstall most of them and get a citizen mod instead.

 

Thanks for the screenshot. The boxes have all been checked. Falkreath is still producing instant CTDs :/

[gromulos]

 

Thank you for your response. I have moved around the orange ones but it doesn't really matter where I put them, they will still stay orange. I have checked other sites on how to solve it but everyone just says to move them around until they turn green. Could it be so that they aren't fully compatible?

 

AH HA! I knew it. Ok those orange mods needs to be fixed with Appendix 1 in my guide using Tes5Edit. Fix them one by one and then after they are all fixed rebuild the bashed patch again please and then try the game.

[TonyOQuinn]

Maybe update Realistic Water Two? There was a bug in RW2 that caused a CTD near Wizard's Vale. Dawnguard...vamipires...I don't know. But the latest update fixed a cell CTD for me.

[75190255508]

 

 

Thank you for your response. I have moved around the orange ones but it doesn't really matter where I put them, they will still stay orange. I have checked other sites on how to solve it but everyone just says to move them around until they turn green. Could it be so that they aren't fully compatible?

 

AH HA! I knew it. Ok those orange mods needs to be fixed with Appendix 1 in my guide using Tes5Edit. Fix them one by one and then after they are all fixed rebuild the bashed patch again please and then try the game.

 

 

I spent the weekend doing some extensive research (read: intensive googling and some slightly questionable methods), I have now found the root of the problem.

 

This little bastard

JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

 

The entire load order for JKs Skyrim and Realistic Water 2 was completely off. JK had to be at the top of the order while RWT had to be on the bottom, with the patch after RWT. Then the patch turned green and it was all dandy.

 

For the other orange ones, I think I have found your guide.

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/

Good stuff! I will go through it and fix the other ones. By the way, maybe add the link to your signature? Making it more accessible for newbs like me would be greatly beneficial I think.

 

Maybe update Realistic Water Two? There was a bug in RW2 that caused a CTD near Wizard's Vale. Dawnguard...vamipires...I don't know. But the latest update fixed a cell CTD for me.

 

Thanks for the advice. I will check which versions I have, before I'll take an arrow to the knee.

[gromulos]

i would add the link, but i have 4 different guides lol

 

Fallout 3

Fallout New Vegas

Fallout 4

Skyrim ( same info works for SSE )

 

lol :tongue:

Edited September 4, 2018 by gromulos

[75190255508]

i would add the link, but i have 4 different guides lol

 

Fallout 3

Fallout New Vegas

Fallout 4

Skyrim ( same info works for SSE )

 

lol :tongue:

You could start a thread with your guides and then link to that. Just a thought. I guess you would be busy replying to people like me in that thread though :tongue: