I need to know what mods do increase weapon damage

[Draghy]

Let me explain: I have a pretty modded game and lately been adding some new ones, but nothing really weapon or item related, yet I've noticed weapons damage values in pip-boy and in the game seem to have increased abnormally, regardless of said weapons skill or SPECIAL stats, like the brass knuckles do 40 something damage with 10 unarmed skill, the 44 revolver does 80 damage, 357 revolver does 60, the gauss rifle does 250 something damage, I've one shot every deathclaw and it just feels really overpowered, I've tried maxing out the difficulty in the game settings but to no avail.

 

If anyone can look down my modlist and tell me what mod do you think might be giving me these outrageous weapon damage values, or maybe if it's some load order issue, please help me

 

 

 

falloutnv.esm

SolidProject.esm

FNVToolkit.esm

JIP Selective-Fire.esm

New Vegas Redesigned 3.esm

DeadMoney.esm

More Perks.esm

More Perks for Dead Money.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

SaltLakeStories.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

Operation Mirai - AR20 FAR.esm

T6M Equipment Replacer NV.esm

Gomorrah Redesigned v2.esp

NVStripOpen.esm

Bionic Augmentation.esp

VanessaFollowerNV.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

ForgeBeyond.esm

More Traits.esm

FCOMaster.esm

More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

AEVegas.esm

More Perks for Companions.esm

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

oHUD.esm

Automag180.esp

BartonThornTrigger.esp

StickyRagdollCam.esp

B42Inertia.esp

aWHK.esp

Terminal welcome text fix.esp

TMCOTT - Restored.esp

Lucky 38 intro poster.esp

Hayes Dialogue Restored.esp

Eddie Hears An Explosion.esp

ArmedToTheTeeth-NewVegas.esp

JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp

JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

T6M Old World Blues Replace.esp

MiscItemIconsNV.esp

NoBlurMenus2.esp

Uncut Wasteland.esp

Legion Quests Expanded.esp

New Vegas Landscape Overhaul.esp

JokerineUsableFurniture-NV.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

FCO - NPC Changes.esp

JSawyer Ultimate.esp

Integration - Couriers Stash.esp

BLEED - NV.esp

Mojave Raiders.esp

TLD_Travelers.esp

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

vault22FloralOverhaul.esp

Mojave Arsenal.esp

Mojave Wildlife (Vanilla-Style).esp

Nights are Darker - Dead Money.esp

Unofficial Patch Plus.esp

BushSounds.esp

Bullet Impact Increased LOD.esp

Lucky38 Climate Fixed.esp

TrooperOverhaul-Dragbody.esp

Cn - BlackMamba.esp

More Perks Update.esp

NV_IFR.esp

StripOpenMain.esp

Alternative Start.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.esp

YUP-PN Patch.esp

JSawyer Ultimate - Project Nevada Patch.esp

ThrowableFixes.esp

Camp Grills.esp

ADAM Complete.esp

ADAM - MERGE.esp

Ultra Luxe Fountain Cut Content.esp

ncrandlegionpatrols.esp

IncreasedLegion1_1.esp

Rewarding Exploring.esp

1nivVSLArmors.esp

Delay DLC - DM + HH + OWB + LR + GRA.esp

NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp

Nights are Darker - Fallout New Vegas.esp

T6M Lingerie NV.esp

T6M Jeans Outfit.esp

JSawyer Ultimate - FCO Patch.esp

JSawyer Ultimate - NVR3 Patch.esp

Unforgiving Combat - BLEED edition.esp

More Traits Update.esp

More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

Hanlon dialogue fix.esp

ADAM - Trooper Gloves.esp

YUP-Spice of Life Patch.esp

Reworked Health Effects.esp

Couriers Stash - Package Selection Menu.esp

Tutorial Killer.esp

NVDLC04 Allegiance w Duster.esp

More Perks for Companions Update.esp

JSawyer Ultimate - Mojave Arsenal Patch.esp

Pickpocket Overhaul.esp

MojaveDelight.esp

OWB Better Hazmat Suit.esp

Exploding Ammo.esp

BetterBigHorners.esp

CarryWeightSpeedMod.esp

gunslinger buff.esp

Threshold.esp

Bash_Stealthboy.esp

Bash_Stealth.esp

True Leaning.esp

HelplessFalling.esp

Faction Armor Redone.esp

Ultimate Illness Mod.esp

DeadMoneyMoreCraftedKnifeVariants.esp

StripEnemies.esp

Real Rad-X.esp

Real Radiation Suits.esp

Real Radiation Suits- Science Suit Rad Protection.esp

GyrojetCarbine.esp

No More Double Open & Close Sounds.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

IMPACT.esp

YUP + EVE + IMPACT + BLEED.esp

Asurah_reanimation.esp

LiveDismember.esp

Realistic Movement.esp

More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

FOVSlider.esp

brotherhoodpresence.esp

Strip Wall Billboards.esp

Crashed Vertibird Interior.esp

Elevator.esp

Enhanced NPC Awareness.esp

IPA.esp

housepresence.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.LITE.esp

A Place To Rest Their Heads.esp

SimpleStreetLightFix.esp

khanpresence.esp

Platinum Radio.esp

Forlorn Hope Letter 9.esp

PrimmSign.esp

OutfitConversionsT6MT6BBTN.esp

SAKO TRG M10.esp

ImmersivePickupSoundsFNV.esp

FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp

FCO - GlowingOne.esp

FCO - PathFixing Vanilla.esp

New Vegas Redesigned 3.esp

New Vegas Redesigned 3 Path Fixing.esp

Roberts_NewVegas.esp

Nights are Darker - Honest Hearts.esp

Nights are Darker - Lonesome Road.esp

Nights are Darker - Old World Blues.esp

SexyTacticalOutfitT6M.esp

RaiderGrunt (DT :cool:.esp

Oxenloadscreens.esp

NVFeralGhoulChildren.esp

DetectedByWhom.esp

FO2CombatArmor.esp

Smashed Patch.esp

Pipboy2501.esp

[dubiousintent]

Sorry, you have too many mods I don't know to say "this one". However, that is 182 plugins, which is well over the 130-140 cap. Strange things occur when that happens. Try temporarily reducing to under 130 just to see what happens. Drop things that won't affect damage, such as "Nights are Darker".

 

In addition, you don't have a "Bash/Merged Patch" file to resolve record level conflicts. (A "smashed patch" does NOT resolve record level conflicts. See the "Merged Plugin Guidelines for Personal Use" wiki article which discusses the differences between types of "patches".) Please see the 'Third Rule: The Rule of One' and 'Merge Patch File' sections of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.

 

Once you have a "Bashed Patch" (BP), select a weapon still doing an unexpected amount of damage, open your entire "load order" in FNVEdit and select the BP plugin, expand the "weapons" records, and find the chosen weapon. Then look in the right-hand pane "View" tab for the damage values each of the plugins affecting that record are providing. The one(s) that match the values in the "BP" plugin are the "winner" of the conflict and the source of the values used. Also check the "ammunition" and "ammo effect" records in the same manner.

 

-Dubious-

[M48A5]

Your load list is in terrible condition. It cannot even be called a load order. If the game starts and runs, you are very lucky.

 

Be sure to read the articles that dubiousintent has kindly linked.

[Draghy]

well im not exactly a modlist rocket scientist but i am trying to get by. so i merged similar plugins into single ones and reduced the count to 110, below the said limit. i also made a merged patch, smashed patch and bashed patch and fiddled with the load order to what i thought was good i think.

 

anyway the bashed patch shows the vanilla weapon base damage values in fnvedit, ammunitions the same, but in game all the weapons have much higher damage in the pip boy, things like the cleaver showing 30 something damage and 10mm pistol 60ish damage. now honestly I have quite some mods that make combat a lot deadlier, but i didnt notice the high pip boy damage values only recently, the gunplay still plays out the same, getting shot usually means you're dead, so i'm thinking: maybe the damage was always the same but only recently the pip boy value changed to higher ones? maybe this is intended?? the think is i dont remember reading higher weapon damage in the description of any mods.

 

if anyone thinks its necesary to see my revised load order ill post it

[Draghy]

im thinking maybe that's how they're intended to work? can anyone else that used these mods together( Project Nevada, YUP, EVE, BLEED, IMPACT, JSawyer's, Threshold, Unforgiving Combat) confirm?

[dubiousintent]

Have you seen how "combat damage" is calculated? While the various variables are "multipliers", most are fractionals. Mods which are intended to make combat deadlier have to affect at least one of those variable factors. As I recall, the Pipboy is just showing the weapon "base damage".

 

The only thing that mitigates the damage from a weapon is the DT and DR of your armor. Not all have either or both. "Deadlier" mods are typically based upon the premise of "don't get hit by anything penetrating your armor even once"! Taking increased amounts of damage is sort of assumed. Playing the game on higher difficulty skews the damage given and taken inversely proportionally towards the benefit for yourself (easy) or the enemy (hard). "Normal" applies it the same to both sides. Please see the "Issue: 'Difficulty' setting causes Player and NPC damage to be 'unbalanced' " entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.

If you can't figure out where the damage is coming from by way of FNVEdit, you are probably going to have to try removing some mods and then re-installing them one by one and checking the Pipboy weapon damage values to see which is bumping it up. My suspects would be "Unforgiving Combat", "Threshold", and "JSawyer's" in that order.

 

-Dubious-

[Draghy]

FIXED IT!

 

i tried turning on gradually most of the combat-related mods, to no avail, the damage was still high, but then I tried turning off Cover Based Stealth by Bashar and the damage reverted to vanilla. After reading the mods description I realized while rushing to configure the mod to my own stupidity I checked "Bashar's Selection" as the preset and that modified all damage in the game to 300%. Other people on the mod page complained about similar issues when used together with the BLEED mod, so I changed the preset to another one that only changes stealth.

 

I wouldnt have thought that a stealth mod could totally wreck the damage calculation and make the game so "deathly" haha. So yeah at least I cleaned up my load order and the problem was in fact my severe lack of patience to thoroughly read the mod description.

 

Thanks to everyone that replied !!

[dubiousintent]

Good to hear you resolved it. It's a surprise to me that "Cover Based Stealth" includes damage modifications as well. Just another example of why one really needs to carefully read the description (and comments) of a mod rather than assuming the title says it all. Don't sweat it. We've all had to learn that lesson the hard way.

 

Thanks for reporting the resolution. Go forth and have fun.

 

-Dubious-