Difficulty problems.

[Nicolai123]

Hey I am have problem with difficulty balancing, I just started a new game with a fresh modlist. So the problem is enemies outside a bandit camp or dungeons are weak bandits and inside they are a lot stronger for my level, im only level 6. Btw i am playing on adept. I dont think any of my mods changes level scaling, except maybe Ordinator. So any help would be very appreciated.

Modlist

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm

8 8 Cutting Room Floor.esp

9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

10 a VioLens SE.esp

11 b VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp

12 c EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

13 d Vivid WeathersSE.esp

14 e Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp

15 f Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp

16 10 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

17 11 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

18 12 Backshields.esp

19 13 Lethal Traps.esp

20 14 WetandCold.esp

21 15 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

22 16 Spells Emit Light - Dim.esp

23 17 MajesticMountains.esp

24 18 Immersive Jewelry.esp

25 19 WeightLessTrueAll.esp

26 1a Blowing in the Wind.esp

27 1b Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp

28 1c Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

29 1d WICO - Immersive People.esp

30 1e Distinct Interiors.esp

31 1f hearthfireextended.esp

32 20 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp

33 21 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

34 22 Point The Way.esp

35 23 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp

36 24 SkyrimSewers.esp

37 25 Run For Your Lives.esp

38 26 Immersive Patrols II.esp

39 27 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp

40 28 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

41 29 CollegeStudents.esp

42 2a Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp

43 2b Unique Uniques.esp

44 2c AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

45 2d Differently Ebony.esp

46 2e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

47 2f dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp

48 30 Footprints.esp

49 31 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

50 32 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

51 33 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp

52 34 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp

53 35 Predator Vision.esp

54 36 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp

55 37 Simple AUA.esp

56 38 SSE High Quality Music.esp

57 39 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

58 3a SGEyebrows.esp

59 3b Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp

60 3c Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp

61 3d Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

62 3e Artful Dodger - Dynamic Pickpocket Cap.esp

63 3f SkyUI_SE.esp

64 40 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

65 41 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended - Ordinator Patch.esp

66 42 20 More Perk Points.esp

67 43 honedmetal.esp

68 44 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

69 45 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

70 46 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

71 47 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

72 48 HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp

73 49 HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp

74 4a KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp

75 4b Crime Overhaul Expanded.esp

76 4c Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

77 4d Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp

78 4e WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp

79 4f ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

80 50 WICO - Immersive Character.esp

81 51 EEO CRF patch.esp

82 52 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp

83 53 MagicDuelReborn.esp

84 54 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

85 55 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

86 56 BVFE.esp

87 57 BVFE_Serana.esp

88 58 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

89 59 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

90 5a EEO Imperious patch.esp

91 5b Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

92 5c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

93 5d Convenient Horses.esp

94 5e Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp

95 5f Hunters Not Bandits.esp

96 60 MLU.esp

97 61 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

98 62 ELFXEnhancer.esp

99 63 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

100 64 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

101 65 RWT Lod Fix.esp

 

 

 

[gromulos]

you need a bashed patch from Wrye ( in my siggy ) and you also need to swap these 2 files

 

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

It specifically states on the patch description page that nothing should load before the patch except the vanilla files

[TonyOQuinn]

Hey I am have problem with difficulty balancing, I just started a new game with a fresh modlist. So the problem is enemies outside a bandit camp or dungeons are weak bandits and inside they are a lot stronger for my level, im only level 6. Btw i am playing on adept. I dont think any of my mods changes level scaling, except maybe Ordinator. So any help would be very appreciated.

Modlist

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm

8 8 Cutting Room Floor.esp

9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

10 a VioLens SE.esp

11 b VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp

12 c EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

13 d Vivid WeathersSE.esp

14 e Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp

15 f Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp

16 10 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

17 11 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

18 12 Backshields.esp

19 13 Lethal Traps.esp

20 14 WetandCold.esp

21 15 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

22 16 Spells Emit Light - Dim.esp

23 17 MajesticMountains.esp

24 18 Immersive Jewelry.esp

25 19 WeightLessTrueAll.esp

26 1a Blowing in the Wind.esp

27 1b Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp

28 1c Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

29 1d WICO - Immersive People.esp

30 1e Distinct Interiors.esp

31 1f hearthfireextended.esp

32 20 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp

33 21 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

34 22 Point The Way.esp

35 23 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp

36 24 SkyrimSewers.esp

37 25 Run For Your Lives.esp

38 26 Immersive Patrols II.esp

39 27 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp

40 28 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

41 29 CollegeStudents.esp

42 2a Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp

43 2b Unique Uniques.esp

44 2c AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

45 2d Differently Ebony.esp

46 2e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

47 2f dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp

48 30 Footprints.esp

49 31 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

50 32 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

51 33 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp

52 34 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp

53 35 Predator Vision.esp

54 36 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp

55 37 Simple AUA.esp

56 38 SSE High Quality Music.esp

57 39 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

58 3a SGEyebrows.esp

59 3b Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp

60 3c Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp

61 3d Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

62 3e Artful Dodger - Dynamic Pickpocket Cap.esp

63 3f SkyUI_SE.esp

64 40 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

65 41 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended - Ordinator Patch.esp

66 42 20 More Perk Points.esp

67 43 honedmetal.esp

68 44 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

69 45 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

70 46 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

71 47 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

72 48 HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp

73 49 HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp

74 4a KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp

75 4b Crime Overhaul Expanded.esp

76 4c Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

77 4d Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp

78 4e WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp

79 4f ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

80 50 WICO - Immersive Character.esp

81 51 EEO CRF patch.esp

82 52 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp

83 53 MagicDuelReborn.esp

84 54 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

85 55 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

86 56 BVFE.esp

87 57 BVFE_Serana.esp

88 58 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

89 59 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

90 5a EEO Imperious patch.esp

91 5b Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

92 5c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

93 5d Convenient Horses.esp

94 5e Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp

95 5f Hunters Not Bandits.esp

96 60 MLU.esp

97 61 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

98 62 ELFXEnhancer.esp

99 63 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

100 64 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

101 65 RWT Lod Fix.esp

 

 

 

I crank the challenge level all the way up, and still would like a higher level of challenge from the vanilla game. Even at the highest challenge many mobs are squishy with paper-towel armor.

 

Wrye won't fix this. But if you ever have technical problems with your game that Wrye could actually fix, you might follow gromulos's guide (link which is missing from his siggy ). I don't think it applies here.

[QuagaarWarrior]

I think the OP needs to look at difficulty enhancing mods. The vanilla game just isnt very challenging.

You could look at combat overhauls like:

Vigor

Wildcat

Mortal Enemies

 

Also enemy spawning mods:

Populated series

Immersive creatures

High level enemies

 

Maybe a delevelled world:

Morrowloot

Skyrim Revamped

 

Personally I am using Omega to sort all of the above

[QuagaarWarrior]

Just saw you have Morrowloot in your load order. That delevels the world and will definitely affect the levels of enemies you encounter.

I believe there is a patch on the mod page to undo the changes it makes to enemies reverting them back to vanilla

[gromulos]

@Tony_OQuinn

 

I posted my guide because i saw several mods that added leveled list, thinking that one of the mods could affect enemy levels was my reasoning

 

But, you are right, if the OP is not having issues like you outlined then my guide will still help him or her, but not fix the issue in question

 

Nice catch, I was not feeling well when I answered this post