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Info overload, some guidance requested


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Hello Oblivion Community, been a while but happy to see y'all still thriving :thumbsup:

 

I'm afraid I'm going to be one of those annoying please hold my hand guys today, but I'll try to keep it to a minimum and would like to express my deepest thanks to anyone willing to offer some guidance.

 

Here's my situation. I had learned how to mod Obliv with Wyre Bash, OMOD, and used the OBSE (script extender, think that its name) a little over a year ago. I had the game installed on my secondary hard drive where I put all my games and had 2 Obliv folders, one was my working game, the other was my modded base that I had tested and verified for stability which had FCOM and Frans installed, my working game had that base and Supreme Magica along with a bunch of others built into it and was quite stable barring the occassional hang. Occassionaly something would go south, but some searching on the forums or even a post detailing it and looking for advice always got me out of the woods and taught me more. I got to the point where I was adding/removing mods and building stable patches regularly. Then Life came along and yanked away my free time for about a year, but for that I got rewarded with a infusion of cash which I promptly put to building a more powerful pc.

 

No doubt the savy amongst you are grinning already knowing what the noob ran into. But to be (hopefully) more specific, here is the Then Situation:

 

My previous rig ran on Win7-64 and had a system hard drive and a games hardrive. The games HD is still in my new rig but the system drive got replaced with a SSD drive and a clean Win7-64 install. Obliv is installed on the games HD, but as I learned later, all my saves and .ini file was on the old system drive, which sadly, I did not back up prior to the upgrade. While I regretted losing all those saves (I had two chars that I was *really* enjoying) I didn't mind starting over, only to learn, shock of shock, the game won't launch.

 

 

The Now of it:

 

So I can't launch Obliv. I remember often running across warnings about the right and wrong way to reinstall Obliv, and that sometimes you didn't have to scrub it off your system only a couple software-fu tricks would set things right. I'm not sure if that's possible here or not, but before that is gone into, some advice would be welcome.

 

I see from perusing the nexus site that there is a new mod manager called NMM and was unsure if it made OMOD obsolete? Also I ran across a referance in another forum post that suggests there's a new and improved BAIN or Wyre utility that's come about (which I may be wrong about my understanding of that post) which is both easier to use and makes the old one obsolete (the old one I had required Python to be installed, which I no longer have).

 

Then I got to wondering, since the save games are off in oblivion (mild pun intended) would it be better for me to do a total clean reinstall and rebuild the game from scratch using these new utilities? Or should I march through a reinstall of the game and use the data I copied and saved from my working installation of the game? It seems like a total rebuild from scratch would be better, as my suspicioun is it would let me troubleshoot more effectively should issues arise. I'm just guessing here but based upon some of the articles I read about reinstalling the game, since my system drive is brand new with a brand new Win7-64 install but with the above described game hard drive, reinstalling Obliv for me is releatively easy but may require only a couple of extra steps?

 

I don't wish to impose too much upon any kind responders, the most simple solution is sought after here if possible, I don't mind putting in the extra work of rebuilding a working game from the ground up (with perhaps a couple of helpful pointers as to which utilities to make use of and which are now obsolete), its just that from what I've read, Obliv seems to demand a lot of hoop jumping should you need to do a reinstall unlike many other games which you just hit the uninstall, then reinstall and you're off to a new start. :mellow:

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Did you just get your machine running, and then try and run oblivion? The installation process creates some files/folder that oblivion is going to expect, and will probably be annoyed if it doesn't find them. Good news is, you don't "have" to uninstall anything yet at this point. Just run the installer, re-install the game to an existing Oblivion directory, make sure the game is updated to 1.2.0416, and then try the game again. See what happens.

 

Bain, and NMM are both good tools, but, I don't think NMM OR Wrye support the OMOD install scripts for some of the more complicated mods, that have many different options..... (FCOM, DarnUI, and the like) Not to mention the Archive Invalidation tools that I don't think either of the other two have...... If you are comfy with OBMM, use it. You can play with the other two tools at your leisure. :D

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