pablosplinter Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Hello again, I started a new game and have not removed any mods since starting, and I am getting crashes seemingly everywhere(conversations, combat, just walking around, indoors/outdoors etc). The following is always the last line in my papyrus log- [10/16/2012 - 01:57:02PM] error: (000DC8E1): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.stack: [ (000DC8E1)].lvlpredatorscript.Enable() - "<native>" Line ? [ (000DC8E1)].lvlpredatorscript.OnCellLoad() - "LvlPredatorScript.psc" Line 26 As I say, I have not uninstalled any mods since I reinstalled the game, so I am not sure what my problem is....if someone has any suggestions, I would be most grateful. As I've mentioned before, the "cannot enable an object with an enable state parent" error is completely harmless, and it simply means that scripts are not allowed to disable objects if they have an "enable parent" linked to them. Trying to disable such objects will simply be ignored by the game and will not cause CTDs. As there is no way in Papyrus to query if a reference has an enable parent, it is not possible to circumvent this error. "Note that references with an Enable Parent cannot be enabled or disabled independently of their parent, even through script. Their disable/enable state is always determined by their enable parent." - CK wiki. Hi Steve, thanks for your response. Obviously, I don't really know what I am doing here with regards to the Papyrus log, but are you saying that the last lines shown there are not the cause of my crashes, so I should be looking elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve40 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 @pablosplinter: in this case, yes, I don't see any major problems in your log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve40 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) yes Im using unofficial skyrim patch as I was told that it fixes some bugs that are still not fixed by patches.looks like it didnt.I was using sos but I uninstalled it some while ago.My current quicksave is 9mb big.So uninstalling uskp will solve my problems probabely ? thank u very much for taking a look at my problem.I have over 100 hours in skyrim and the last time I want to do is starting a new game. btw I just ran boss looks like a mod modified my update.esm in a bad way ? I replaced it with a fresh one but boss still says its edited.The cleaning guide isnt specific enough on how to clean the update.esm file in my case. These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action. Skyrim.esm Active Checksum: C665FD56 Update.esm Active Checksum: 412D96FB Contains dirty edits: 50 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide) EDIT: without uskp my game wont even make it to the main menu anymore.it crashes after the bethesda logo. Are you sure it was USKP, not SKSE that you uninstalled? From your Papyrus logs, it looks like some of the essential SKSE scripts have now been deleted. You may need to reinstall SKSE. Edit: don't get hung up on the BOSS "errors", they are false positives. Update.esm is Bethesda's patch, so naturally it will have made changes to the vanilla records :) Edit2: the usual cause of a crash at the Beth logo happens when you try to load a mod that depends on a master file (*.esm, either from vanilla, a DLC or a mod) but that masterfile is either missing or not activated. So for example, if you load a mod that requires Hearthfires but Hearthfires.esp is not activated, then the game will crash immediately. Edited October 19, 2012 by steve40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiaBLoW666 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) yes Im using unofficial skyrim patch as I was told that it fixes some bugs that are still not fixed by patches.looks like it didnt.I was using sos but I uninstalled it some while ago.My current quicksave is 9mb big.So uninstalling uskp will solve my problems probabely ? thank u very much for taking a look at my problem.I have over 100 hours in skyrim and the last time I want to do is starting a new game. btw I just ran boss looks like a mod modified my update.esm in a bad way ? I replaced it with a fresh one but boss still says its edited.The cleaning guide isnt specific enough on how to clean the update.esm file in my case. These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action. Skyrim.esm Active Checksum: C665FD56 Update.esm Active Checksum: 412D96FB Contains dirty edits: 50 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide) EDIT: without uskp my game wont even make it to the main menu anymore.it crashes after the bethesda logo. Are you sure it was USKP, not SKSE that you uninstalled? From your Papyrus logs, it looks like some of the essential SKSE scripts have now been deleted. You may need to reinstall SKSE. Edit: don't get hung up on the BOSS "errors", they are false positives. Update.esm is Bethesda's patch, so naturally it will have made changes to the vanilla records :) Edit2: the usual cause of a crash at the Beth logo happens when you try to load a mod that depends on a master file (*.esm, either from vanilla, a DLC or a mod) but that masterfile is either missing or not activated. So for example, if you load a mod that requires Hearthfires but Hearthfires.esp is not activated, then the game will crash immediately. yes it crashed only before main menu if I didnt have uskp installed cause of ASIS needed to be rebuild after I delete or add any new mod. I uninstalled uskp then rerun asis.jar and now it didnt crash when killing the specific mage bandit who always gave me the ctd after he died. thank u very much for your help I hope the game stays stable now.If not I report back.kudos to you btw :) Edited October 19, 2012 by DiaBLoW666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve40 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Thats good to hear, glad to have been able to help. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrimcrafter1919 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Heres my papyrus log: [10/17/2012 - 05:55:05PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)[10/17/2012 - 05:55:05PM] error: Native function SetDontMove in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Actor. Function will not be bound.[10/17/2012 - 05:55:05PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)[10/17/2012 - 05:55:05PM] Memory page: 8192 (min) 256 (max) 8388608 (max total)[10/17/2012 - 05:55:21PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] error: Property backupAlias on script SwapAliasOnDeath attached to alias Innkeeper on quest DialogueFalkreath (0004D78E) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (15) on <NULL quest> (0004D78E) is not the right type[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] error: Property backupAlias on script SwapAliasOnDeath attached to alias Tavernkeeper on quest DialogueDragonBridge (000212AB) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (13) on <NULL quest> (000212AB) is not the right type[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property Necromancy on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property SavageStrike on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property MagicResistance50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property Bladesman60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property MagicResistance30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property MageArmor30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property Bladesman90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property AugmentedFrost on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property WindWalker on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property DarkSouls on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:29PM] warning: Property MageArmor50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:30PM] VM is freezing...[10/17/2012 - 05:55:30PM] VM is frozen[10/17/2012 - 05:55:30PM] Reverting game...[10/17/2012 - 05:55:31PM] error: Property backupAlias on script SwapAliasOnDeath attached to alias Innkeeper on quest DialogueFalkreath (0004D78E) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (15) on <NULL quest> (0004D78E) is not the right type[10/17/2012 - 05:55:31PM] error: Property backupAlias on script SwapAliasOnDeath attached to alias Tavernkeeper on quest DialogueDragonBridge (000212AB) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (13) on <NULL quest> (000212AB) is not the right type[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property Necromancy on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property SavageStrike on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property MagicResistance50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property Bladesman60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property MagicResistance30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property MageArmor30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property Bladesman90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property AugmentedFrost on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property WindWalker on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property DarkSouls on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:55:32PM] warning: Property MageArmor50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[10/17/2012 - 05:56:27PM] Loading game...[10/17/2012 - 05:56:27PM] Cannot open store for class "MidasSCPTTardis", missing file?[10/17/2012 - 05:56:27PM] warning: Unable to get type MidasSCPTTardis referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.[10/17/2012 - 05:56:28PM] warning: Could not find type MidasSCPTTardis in the type table in save[10/17/2012 - 05:56:28PM] warning: Function dragonactorscript.alive.OnDeath in stack frame 0 in stack 795542 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save[10/17/2012 - 05:56:28PM] warning: Function dragonactorscript.deadAndWaiting.onBeginState in stack frame 2 in stack 795542 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save[10/17/2012 - 05:56:28PM] warning: Function dragonactorscript.alive.OnDeath in stack frame 0 in stack 795772 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save[10/17/2012 - 05:56:28PM] warning: Function dragonactorscript.deadAndWaiting.onBeginState in stack frame 2 in stack 795772 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save[10/17/2012 - 05:56:28PM] warning: Function dragonactorscript.alive.OnDeath in stack frame 0 in stack 795560 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save[10/17/2012 - 05:56:28PM] warning: Function dragonactorscript.deadAndWaiting.onBeginState in stack frame 2 in stack 795560 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save[10/17/2012 - 05:56:28PM] warning: Function tg08risingwaterscript..GotoState in stack frame 1 in stack 209114 doesn't exist in the in-game resource files - using version from save[10/17/2012 - 05:56:29PM] warning: Function Critter.KickOffOnStart.OnUpdate in stack frame 0 in stack 308672 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from save[10/17/2012 - 05:56:30PM] VM is thawing...[10/17/2012 - 05:56:30PM] [bYOHHouseBuildingPlayerScript <alias Player on quest BYOHHouseBuilding (0300305D)>] OnPlayerLoadGame...[10/17/2012 - 05:56:30PM] [DCL1VampireTurnPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC1VampireTurn (0200588C)>]OnPlayerLoadGame() calling MakeAliasesEyesRed()[10/17/2012 - 05:56:30PM] [dlc1vampireturnscript <DLC1VampireTurn (0200588C)>]MakeAliasesEyesRed()[10/17/2012 - 05:56:36PM] error: Native static function SetAllowFlyingMountLandingRequests could find no matching static function on linked type Game. Function will not be bound.[10/17/2012 - 05:56:36PM] error: Native static function IsFastTravelControlsEnabled could find no matching static function on linked type Game. Function will not be bound.[10/17/2012 - 05:56:36PM] error: Native static function AddPerkPoints could find no matching static function on linked type Game. Function will not be bound.[10/17/2012 - 05:57:15PM] error: Cannot call WaitingForShout() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[alias Player on quest MGMainQuestBridge (000C9F08)].MGBridgePlayerQuest.OnSpellCast() - "MGBridgePlayerQuest.psc" Line 6[10/17/2012 - 05:57:15PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp0"stack:[alias Player on quest MGMainQuestBridge (000C9F08)].MGBridgePlayerQuest.OnSpellCast() - "MGBridgePlayerQuest.psc" Line 6[10/17/2012 - 05:57:16PM] RNPC: Periodic update check.[10/17/2012 - 05:57:38PM] error: Cannot call WaitingForShout() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[alias Player on quest MGMainQuestBridge (000C9F08)].MGBridgePlayerQuest.OnSpellCast() - "MGBridgePlayerQuest.psc" Line 6[10/17/2012 - 05:57:38PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp0"stack:[alias Player on quest MGMainQuestBridge (000C9F08)].MGBridgePlayerQuest.OnSpellCast() - "MGBridgePlayerQuest.psc" Line 6[10/17/2012 - 05:57:41PM] error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.UnregisterForUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 53[10/17/2012 - 05:57:41PM] error: Cannot call IsDead() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 54[10/17/2012 - 05:57:41PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp3"stack:[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 54[10/17/2012 - 05:57:41PM] error: Cannot call IsDead() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 54[10/17/2012 - 05:57:41PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp3"stack:[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 54[10/17/2012 - 05:57:41PM] error: Cannot call ForceRefTo() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 77[10/17/2012 - 05:57:41PM] error: Cannot call ForceRefTo() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 78[10/17/2012 - 05:57:55PM] VM is freezing...[10/17/2012 - 05:57:55PM] VM is frozen Please help me! also heres link to my post: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/808462-names-not-showing-up/page__gopid__6487569#entry6487569 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablosplinter Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Just a quick update about mine. Cleaned all mods I was using in TES5edit and now I have had 8 hours of crash-free gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kynesgrove Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 For people just joining us, for additional clarity on the "dirty edits" appearing in BOSS under Update.esm, Dawnguard.esm, etc., see http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/808774-tes5edit-experimental-is-now-available-for-experience-testers-to-try-o/ andhttp://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/809181-boss-reporting-dirty-edits/page__gopid__6479523#entry6479523 The short answer is yeah, they are false positives. Your problem lies elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kynesgrove Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hi guys, would love some help. I have had problems since installing Dawnguard. I love it- - I love Dawnguard. I would rather have DG than pretty much any and all mods... except the UNP body replacer and say Trees for Solitude-- hey, aesthetics are my main thing for mods. Anyway, DG doesn't seem to like the Skyrim environment that I dropped it into. First I got a soul cairn ctd. I reloaded an autosave (according to a lot of people, that was one of my first mistakes). Since then, a bounty of ctds and freezes. Thing is, I would love to junk most of my mods and keep DG, but I am not sure that is an option. I will try it. If that fails I will uncheck DG instead. This is a 550-hour 62nd-level character (I know, ridiculous; I guess I am a "role-player"), so I am guessing those mods are so baked into my saves that my only hope is to scrap DG AND keep the mods. Though, granted, I try to avoid mods with scripts, and I attempted the "stopquest zGoreEffectsNPCQuest" -type console commands to uninstall "Enhanced Blood Textures", the one mod I've used that has a script folder as far as I know. Bye the way, my papyrus logs keep showing a repeating error on the DAWNGUARD RUNE AXE .psc. I've never touched that weapon or quest. I've used the Dust Drop fix provided by Steve40 to get rid of the fxDustDropRandomSCRIPT error, but that rune axe one, man, don't know how to get rid of that. My savegame is 14.5mb. My load order: Update.esmDawnguard.esmJSwords.esmmoonpath.esmApachiiHair.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espStaticMeshImprovementMod.espBabettesFeastBalanced.espCookingExpanded.espHjerimChests.espLost Art of the Blacksmith.espRadiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.espRealistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced.espUnique BOOZE Bottles.espDovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons UNP.espHuntressArmor.espMashupUNP.espsurvivor_armor.espUNPB Barbarian Armor.espInvisibleArmorSets - Low End Only.espSmithing Perks Overhaul.espHjerimForge.espmoonpath_questdata.espTrees for Solitude.espNo Helmets Required.espsneIsobel.espsneMordyn.espsneTobias.espsneThorek.espsneLola.espsneCosette.espsneAudmund.espNiremion.espCosnach.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiaBLoW666 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) Thats good to hear, glad to have been able to help. Cheers. Its still crashing but a lot less now which makes it playable for me.been playing for about half an hour and got that again.ctd happened after killing a dark brotherhood assasin.Maybe the crash source is just so deeply rooted in my savegames that its not possible to get it out again. Could I deactivate all mods make a vanilla save and reactivate all mods and load the save again ? [None].LightingBall.OnUpdate() - "LightingBall.psc" Line 79[10/24/2012 - 09:21:52AM] error: Argument variable "bLooping" was not successfully looked upstack: [ (0005C1FD)].CritterSpawn.OnLoad() - "<savegame>" Line ?[10/24/2012 - 09:21:52AM] error: Argument variable "bPrintDebug" was not successfully looked upstack: [ (0005C1FD)].CritterSpawn.OnLoad() - "<savegame>" Line ?[10/24/2012 - 09:21:52AM] error: Argument variable "recursions" was not successfully looked upstack: [ (0005C1FD)].CritterSpawn.OnLoad() - "<savegame>" Line ?[10/24/2012 - 09:21:52AM] error: Attempting to manipulate variable "recursions" was not successfully looked upstack: [ (0005C1FD)].CritterSpawn.OnLoad() - "<savegame>" Line ?[10/24/2012 - 09:21:53AM] error: Unable to call EnableNoWait - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack: [None].ObjectReference.EnableNoWait() - "<native>" Line ? [None].LightingBall.OnUpdate() - "LightingBall.psc" Line 79[10/24/2012 - 09:21:53AM] error: Unable to call EnableNoWait - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack: [None].ObjectReference.EnableNoWait() - "<native>" Line ? [None].LightingBall.OnUpdate() - "LightingBall.psc" Line 79[10/24/2012 - 09:21:53AM] error: Unable to call EnableNoWait - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack: [None].ObjectReference.EnableNoWait() - "<native>" Line ? [None].LightingBall.OnUpdate() - "LightingBall.psc" Line 79[10/24/2012 - 09:21:53AM] error: Unable to call EnableNoWait - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack: [None].ObjectReference.EnableNoWait() - "<native>" Line ? [None].LightingBall.OnUpdate() - "LightingBall.psc" Line 79[10/24/2012 - 09:21:53AM] error: Unable to call EnableNoWait - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack: [None].ObjectReference.EnableNoWait() - "<native>" Line ? [None].LightingBall.OnUpdate() - "LightingBall.psc" Line 79[10/24/2012 - 09:21:53AM] error: Unable to call EnableNoWait - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack: [None].ObjectReference.EnableNoWait() - "<native>" Line ? [None].LightingBall.OnUpdate() - "LightingBall.psc" Line 79[10/24/2012 - 09:21:53AM] error: Unable to call EnableNoWait - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack: [None].ObjectReference.EnableNoWait() - "<native>" Line ? [None].LightingBall.OnUpdate() - "LightingBall.psc" Line 79[10/24/2012 - 09:21:53AM] error: Unable to call EnableNoWait - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack: [None].ObjectReference.EnableNoWait() - "<native>" Line ? [None].LightingBall.OnUpdate() - "LightingBall.psc" Line 79 Edited October 24, 2012 by DiaBLoW666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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