load order help please.

[shadowstart220]

Im here today to ask for some help regarding my load issues. ill be honest and say that im by no means a pro at this even tho iv seen everywere that its an easy thing to handle yet i cant seem to get things to work. Now iv installed the TESmodmanager NMM and BOSS. and iv taken a look at the mod conflict feature in TESMM. But I realy dont understand what its trying to tell me is the problem. Iv also read in places that the BOSS program isnt doing what its supposed to be doing, and that later updates to NMM have also taken away from the load ordering situation. That aside, what can you guys tell me about how to get my load ordering to start rolling.

 

As far as the mods go, i just last night started all over again and narrowed my current list to 67 mods. Now i do also relalize that the more mods one has the more complex the build a particual game can get in regards to conflicts and CTDs. I will paste my current list that i have in the hopes that my only real issue is infact just my load order and all i need to do is place some mods in the right area.

 

One other note. in regards to the mod "type" ill call it. im not sure if i should put liked mods together or if its more of a this needs to be first then this and this and so one (exp. weapons mods or visual enhancments mods ENBs for example)

 

so here is my list. i look forward to your feedback and thank you in advance.

 

Update.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm

LianVera-v2.1.esm

SkyMoMod.esm

OrientalRace.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp

Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp

Realistic Lighting.esp

huntingprofit.esp

LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Ultra.esp

LFox Alchemists Have Potions and Poisons.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

FullBootForKKSA.esp

FlameAtronachArmor.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

AT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp

AT - Increased Progressive Damage +100%.esp

AT - Merchants Arrows +100%.esp

AT - Recover +50% Arrows.esp

BuildableHouse.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp

Braithwen Fernleaf Auburn Auto.esp

Breezehome_FullyUpgradable.esp

Extended Slider Colors.esp

ENG_Firewood_Ore_&_Ingot_weight_reduction_v1.0.esp

FishingInSkyrim.esp

Get More Ingots 10 ingots.esp

BetterFishAdded.esp

LevelersTower.esp

LianVera-v2.1.esp

Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp

MasterOfMagic.esp

More Craftables.esp

skyrimespawn7.esp

skyrimespawn3.esp

skyrimespawn2.esp

skyrimespawn.esp

Skyrim15SmithingFix.esp

SkyMoMod_lists.esp

SkyMoMod Extras Conjuration.esp

SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_vampire.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_mage.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_forsworn.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_falmer.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_dwerven.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_draugr.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_bandit.esp

SkyMoMod_morespawns_animal.esp

Soul Gems Glow When Full.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

Uncapped Perks - Combat + Stealth.esp

Uncapped Perks - Magic.esp

ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp

WATER.esp

Unlimited_Rings.esp

LFox Vendors Have Black Soul Gems.esp

LFox Vendors Have Soul Gems.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp

whiteruntrees.esp

Neo's Witch.esp

[fleabittendog]

I picked other because I use NMM, BOSS, and Wrye Bash. I use NMM for installing and uninstalling and for checking my current mod version against the most recent. I use BOSS to create my load order. I use Wrye Bash for the merged patch which reduces conflicts with leveled lists. Also I can use Wrye Bash to compare saves if I remove or add a mod. If I want to adjust my load order I can use either NMM or Wrye Bash but I prefer the latter as I have to rebuild my patch every time I change my load order. BOSS seems to work pretty well at creating a workable load order but I do shuffle some mods around. For instance, Realistic Lighting is always placed close to the top by BOSS but the mod author claims that it should be placed near the end.

[shadowstart220]

oki so then how do i find out (likely thro the modders site im betting?) what mods need to go where on the list?

[fleabittendog]

Since many mod authors seem to want their mods close to the bottom of the load order I would go with the BOSS list unless I noticed problems and then I would try moving mods one at a time to see if anything improves. It's mostly trial and error but you should always pay attention to a mod's readme for special instructions.

[shadowstart220]

Thats good to know. I do note a lot of the time the authors dont put load order specifications in there discrptions. I see off compatibiliy notes. I will give that a try. atm my game is broken. so ill start there :).

 

thanks

[shadowstart220]

so is it safe to assume that when reodering mod. i should try to keep them near the bottom, make sure they dont do the same thing anotehr mod is, keep liked mods with liked mods so to speek. but load things like hari mods and face mods before lets say,,,,, a custom race mod? just trying to get a deeper understanding of just how this works.

 

 

oh and what are peopels thoughts on steam running mods and such. ?