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Fallout series inspired by the Ultimate Warrior


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I'm watching this movie from the 70s called the Ultimate Warrior and I just keep thinking, oh look they are living like in fallout. Wall of ruined cars with a church bell on the top (ie a warning siren lol), random cookfire in the middle of the settlements entry way for no apparent reason, random npcs hammering on crap for no reason. Even the dude at the cookfire is chopping up way too much meat for a stew. Nobody eating pancakes, yep its a fallout movie apparently.

 

The funniest part is the "lone survivor" standing on top of a car for no reason so everyone can see him, like he's taking a fallout selfie. Then get this the two "gangs" in the movie both approach him and give him a quest, which he stays silent for each group pestering him. The last gang to ask for his help walks off only to get attacked by a group of psychos, then he comes to the rescue like any player worth his salt would. Must be the howards favorite movie.

 

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It's possible indeed that that was one of the inspirations, but the similarity is somewhat lower with Fallout 1 and 2, and a lot less with Fallout Tactics. If we're talking the series, that is. Fallout 1 and 2, for better or worse, had their stoves indoors, and I definitely don't remember the huge piles of tires and such.

 

 

That said, though, I think most post-apocalypse movies and games rehash a finite set of (highly unrealistic) tropes, so it would be harder to find one which DOESN'T look like more of the same. Or like Fallout.

 

But I guess it's the kind of thing that humans find easy to swallow and interesting enough to watch. It's really a case of keeping it at the point of being an MCI (Minimally Counter-Intuitive) for the audience. Veering in any direction from that point gets you a story that's either less interesting or less believable.

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LOTS of post apocalyptic material in the cheesy 70s. BUT maybe started with the much earlier "I am Legend" (not the Will Smith third or fourth version, but the early 60's Vincent Price one). The zombies/ghouls certainly came from there. Tho they were originally 'vampires'.

 

The film you found is one of a whole bunch, some from famous authors like "A boy and his dog". That is VERY fallout, but more from a 'raider' perspective.

 

Most famous is Mad Max, tho the dreadful Fallout engine could never do vehicles (or even horses well).

 

The REAL question is does the Fallout universe have anything original? Fallout's future retro is but a love of 1950's SF movies (like forbidden planet). The nukes from everywhere. The vaults from many sources, tho the cruel psychological experiments are a bit more original. The wasteland and raiders from everywhere. Supermutants and synths stolen from other SF sources.

 

Anyhoo I remember the OP movie from the days the BBC had a hard-on for showing this type of genre film just after 9PM in the mid to late 70s. This is the one where the guy loses an arm?

 

Beth bought the Fallout IP to save their own need to use their 'imagination'. So Fallout 3 was boss. Fallout 4 vastly less so. And FO76, narratively, an utter joke.

 

The movies were spicy grind-house tales, and this made them 'adult' and fun. All Beth knows today is how to dilute and make things 'vanilla' for the 'mainstream'. The faux clickbait 'controversy' of wolf 2 is not good adult world-building - it is actually just 'childish' 'shocks' for a very vanilla market. The first rebooted wolf was infinitely better.

 

Now there's nothing 'grindhouse' or classic pulp SF (that you haven't already seen as nauseum in previous Fallout games) in Beth's latest Fallout. And this speaks to the hopeless future of the IP at Beth.

 

I remember loving these movies at the time because they had something about them. The same reason Fallout 3 was such an astonishing experience. But these films rarely had sequels.

 

The original 'planet of the apes' movie cycle could have been given the fallout game treatment. Actually, given the ability to now render half-decent fur, I'm suprised no-one has done this. You'd get soemthing like a cross between Skyrim (the ape lands) and Fallout (the old remnants of earth). Ah- a person can dream.

 

It always amazes me that given how trivial Beth open world games are to replicate, and how poor the beth games really are against what they could be with even a little pro-effort, that Beth is left alone to make games in this billion dollar (profit per title) sub-genre. RDR2, Witcher 3 etc are really in a different gaming sub-genre. Beth could have spent a FRACTION of what RDR2 cost, and less than half the dev time to have made a single player successor to either Skyrim or Fallout this Xmas, with a good chance to match the sales of RDR2, and easily beat COD and Battlefield, but instead...

 

Maybe someone else will rediscover the genre films of the period, and understand that Beth has no legal stranglehold on any part of post apocalypse story telling. Take inspiration or even buy the rights to one of these movies, and give us some much needed competition. But I rate the chance of this happening at zero. For some inexplicable reason, when those that could do open world games well choose to do so, they want fixed protaganists and baked in hard coded narratives that ensure all players have much the same experience. Worlds we'll love to enjoy once, then move on to the next game.

 

But living worlds where the player makes their own story like Fallout (before the latest) and Skyrim, sadly its either Beth or no-one, and with Beth's new direction now its no-one . Well at least many of us have these old films to discover or rediscover.

 

PS do they allow external links here? Let's say not. So go to Wikipedia and search 'List_of_apocalyptic_films'. For 'history' or 'politics' subjects, never touch Wikipedia with a barge pole. But for pop culture, it's mostly "wow".

 

Ah "Damnation Alley"- that's the one I was trying to remember. And "I am Legend" was entitled "last man on Earth" in it's first incarnation. What did we do before the net?

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