Apps are not compatible with windows 7?

[AmiableOgre]

I am 62 years of age and not particularly adept at resolving issues with my PC at this juncture, the learning curve is steep and the going slow.

 

Therefore I provide an account of the issues I am encountering and remedial measures I have attempted in the hope that the community can provide helpful advice.

 

I began my modding adventure using Window's 10 with a 1tb ssd and my PC operates on a GEFORCE GTX 1070 Graphics card, 16gb of RAM and an older 64 bit version of the Intel i7 CPU.

 

I quickly encountered increasingly severe problems despite all this however.

 

A local IT guru I consulted examined my system and informed me that removing and reinstalling mods etc the way it is done with Mod Organizer had caused severe fragmentation issues because of a combination of factors involving the way Windows' 10 manages data combined with the way ssd's manage data.

 

Furthermore I was adamantly informed that under absolutely NO circumstances should an ssd be de-fragmented, ever! Therefore that was not an option and fortunately I had not attempted it so there was at least one error I had not committed.

 

I was also informed that due to the extent of the 'damage' resulting from fragmented data and because of problems caused by a feature described as 'UCAS' employed by Windows 10 the best option for repair would be a complete re-installation of Window's 10 rather than attempting to locate and repair far too many damaged files.

 

I was also advised to revert to Window's 7, which I had been using prior to permitting an 'upgrade' to Windows 10, on a separate drive for most if not all of my gaming activities.

 

This advice was offered with the explanation that Windows 7 does not present the same 'difficulties' as Window's 10 and is therefore 'more accommodating for modders'.

 

In accordance with the aforementioned advice I had a second 1tb ssd installed with Window's 7 Ultimate as o/s and then added Steam and all relevant games etc.

 

At this juncture I noticed that Vortex had been released in Beta form and so I installed it as my Mod Manager.

 

I immediately encountered a problem yet again when I found I could not install Discord on Windows 7.

 

But when I started watching educational presentations by 'Gopher' and attempted to emulate his examples for installing mods the process simply did not work then either, apparently due to the absence of some necessary element.

 

In so far as I can tell, the problem appears to be that the mods I attempted to install on Vortex are structured in the form of 'apps' and I have been informed that Windows 7 is simply not capable of using data structured in that manner.

 

I thoroughly enjoyed time I was able to spend playing Fallout4 etc with mods before everything started falling off it's perch, so naturally, I hope you are all able and willing to pitch in and help me get back to that state of contentment.

 

Any educational references you can provide that are suitable to a virtual novice will also be gratefully received.

 

Regards.

 

Amiable Ogre.

 

 

 

[Grestorn]

Unfortunately, you came across an "IT guru" who told you a lot of rubbish.

 

Ok, it's true, that an SSD should not be defragmented. Windows will not try to do that, for this very reason. Also, an SSD is not affected (slowed down) by fragmentation. Fragmentation is only an issue on mechanical HDDs because it causes the mechanic parts to have to move a lot to gather the files. Since there are no mechanical parts on SSD, it has no effect on them at all.

 

But modding does not cause fragmentation. No matter what kind of modding tool you use. This is complete nonsense.

 

I don't know what kind of problems you had, but the advice to turn back to Windows 7 was about the worse advice you could get. It sounds to me like this "IT guru" just had (a common) hatred against new versions of something which he's not accustomed to, maybe especially Windows 10. There are, unfortunately, a lot of people around, who call themselves "guru" and just are afraid of change and deny it right away instead of embracing them.

 

Anyway, since you're now on 7, unfortunately, you'll have to cope with that (and hopefully will never consult this guru ever again).

 

Vortex doesn't install anything in the form of "Apps". It's fully compatible with Windows 7, so that's not an issue.

 

The only time the term "App" comes into play is when downloading a mod from Nexus. The browser(!) will pop up a message that there's no handler present to handle the download. This is not an issue of Vortex, it's just the default behaviour of the browser when confronted with an unknown download type. It will ask you whether you want to "look for an App" to handle this.

 

But this is misguiding you. Just enter Vortex and find

 

Settings->Download

 

And make sure that the "Handle" option on the top is enabled. If you use Google Chrome, you should also close the browser and click the "Fix now" button there as well.

 

Hope that resolves your issue...

[Guest deleted34304850]

.